Political responsibility should be shouldered in Bahrija development saga - PL

apace

Aug 19th 2009, 16:28

Victor scerri could have avoided all this if he declared that he was a part time farmer. A previous govt mininster got away with it.

oliver cini

Aug 14th 2009, 22:33

For me all this is a childish attitude by both parties and every one involved , what is wrong is wrong the extension was wrong ? the permit has been removed. he had the right to build the two rooms ? fair enough he those them.

what i can't stand are making this whole thing a political issues and wasting time and money on news papers ,tv etc and more then that wasting human brains on issues that for sure will not influence the country at all.

From the PL i pretend that they use there time to work out a more strategic plan for our country economic future, or the social problem or the unemployment issue. and the gov should not waste time on this minor issues when our economy is suffering so much .

In the very but very near future Malta is likely to fall on it's niece due to lack of competitvness and high louder cost and utility costs we need to move on and work hard. for the future to be as near as the past.

Anthony Mizzi

Aug 14th 2009, 20:02

MEPA's mission statement , can be summed as being that "All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others." ....especially when it comes to approving permits for Farmhouses in ODZ......

Somebody has not only lost the firm hold of the situation , also lost his heart and now his conscience , and sensitivity to the wishes of the electorate.

There will certainly be less clapping at the speeches of Dr. Gonzi and his Gonzipn ( with out Party President) in the forthcoming Independence Day festivities, since there is certainly not much to be festive about.

Victor Laiviera

Aug 14th 2009, 19:09

@ Mr R. Caruana If you "remember" the Lay Lay Case, you should also remember that Freddie Portelli took the PN media to court and won substantial damages. This may refresh your memory: "The controversy first arose before the last elections but it shot back to the surface a few weeks ago after a former Labour minister, Mr Freddie Portelli, won a libel suit following allegations made against him by a Nationalist Party television station. Mr Portelli was the minister responsible for housing between 1996 and 1998. The court found that according to the evidence given Lay Lay had applied to sell property to the Housing Authority, and that the application had been processed by technical and legal persons. The court ruled that no irregularities had been found on Mr Portelli's part and awarded him damages" http://www.doi.gov.mt/en/commentaries/2002/01/tim19.asp

Alfred Grima

Aug 14th 2009, 18:55

@Tonio Aquilina There is no need for Dr Joseph Muscat to make any statement what-so-ever! Two ex PN Ministers had done it on his behalf.

Enzo Caruana

Aug 14th 2009, 18:26

@ Mr R Caruana It seems that you have forgotten all the squalid details how the Lay Lay business was fabricated and leaked by someone in the Housing Authority as a favour to the PN a few days before the 1998 elections. And yes a very honest Labour Minister Alfred Portelli, like the true gentleman he is resigned. He was later vindicated by the courts when he won the libel cases he had instituted against the PN media who had made a meal out of the fabricated story.

Darren Casar

Aug 14th 2009, 17:57

How can some people try to justify cases of corruption by reminding us of the other party's corruption cases. How pathetic some people can be. How can this country improve? This country is overflowing with ignorance and partisan politics to the point of justifying what is wrong.

Galea. L

Aug 14th 2009, 17:49

R. Caruana The Lay Lay business was simply a PN plan to get rid of a minister who was later declared o have acted correctly but the election damage had been done.

fredmallia

Aug 14th 2009, 17:44

tocaruana: re laylay case. the then minister alfred portelli was a victim of the nationalsist propoganda(CHARACTERKILLERS). Infact alfred won a libel against the newspaper and broadcasting. fred

Caruana M

Aug 14th 2009, 17:29

@R Caruana I agree with you....we have not forget....Lay Lay issue had resulted in the resegnation of a PL Minister...That's the point. At least try to read the title of the article. During th 96/98 PL goverment a lot of ministers have been forced to resign even for matters less than this. How come that when PN is in government no ever ministers resign? No accountability to the people...at all!

R. Caruana

Aug 14th 2009, 16:35

Oh, PL, give up!

Have you forgotten the Lay Lay business? We haven't!

N.Farrugia

Aug 14th 2009, 16:13

Is it really the PL that is talking and expecting democracy?

mario gellel

Aug 14th 2009, 16:02

PAJJIZ TAL-BIKI, GVERN TAL-BARUNIJIET, POPLU MISRUQ U MSAWWAT.
NOTHING
GIVEN (NGO)
ONESTLY

T.Camilleri

Aug 14th 2009, 15:50

Without entering into the merits of Victor Scerri's saga as it seems to be quite convoluted, it does seem to me a bit rich of PL and Joseph Muscat et al to preach to us about political responsibility and political correctness and such like . I think I've had enough of these politicians throwing mud at each otehr as if any one of them is as white as snow. Why didn't 't Joseph Muscat come out straight and instead of defending the indefensible e.g. Siggiewi PL club, returned to the the people - and me the average tax payer - property belonging to the Government of Malta i.e. the people of Malta i.e. YOU and ME and Joe Blogs instead of trying to keep for a further period an asset that should never have been leased out by his own party in government as a gift to a political party. SHAME ON THE PL. It's only when such acts of human decency behaviour become the norm that I may one day, possibnly - can't guarantee it - recover my "faith" in politicians.

J Farrugia

Aug 14th 2009, 15:43

And yes, Victor Scerri will be allowed to buiild the same farmhouse which existed before the demolition. It wont be the one he wanted but the one which was sold to him AND THAT IS HIS RIGHT. The land is to be in its pristine state before demolition. Therefore the old derelict farmhouse will have to be built anew at MEPA's expense.

Tonio Aquilina

Aug 14th 2009, 15:43

Dear Dr Muscat

I hope that you are not expecting Dr Gonzi to resign? When he was being investigated
Victor Scerri just resigned so that says that he was gentleman enough not to have such
a thing, political. My opinion is that the Bahrija Site Building is illegal, then irrelevant who it is, it has to be revoked.

And as yet you still have not made your comments about the 24hour permit/go ahead
that you got from MEPA.

Do not point fingers if you do not want others to point at you...

Thank you

J Farrugia

Aug 14th 2009, 15:42

Oh come on Labour Party, what are your policies? What are your suggestions for the country to move forward. Not this trash. seem to me that there is someone at the Glass house who has nothing to do but impose news releases on their own MPs so that they are seen to be doing something. Halluna nghixu s-sajf hudu vaganza allavolja ilkom li hadthuha.

g.c.Forte

Aug 14th 2009, 15:36

@ Joe Micallef..........With the same argument of the P.L. Club of Siggiewi, to be given back to all the people of Siggiewi, the 2 rooms ( if you want to call them rooms) that Mr. Scerri have in Bahrija should be left as 2 rooms to put the farmers tools, and not a nice small villa, which is going to be enjoyed by just one family. All the Maltese should enjoy that part of country side. As for the P.L.......How many times ( because I lost counting ) did you ask the P.N. government, to take responsibility to shoulder political contradictions made by P.N members? Cikku il Poplu action wants and not teatrini. The first thing you should do is,go to parliament and put a motion, on any of these contradictions, and give the government 24 hours to lift the responsibilities. You can start with the V.A.T saga. If the government keeps on making a monkey out of you.........go out,like they did in 1981.

Joe Micallef

Aug 14th 2009, 15:30

@ Jeremy JC

That is beyond my post!

But to answer your "tangent" wondering, I hope that whoever is found responsible of some form of illegality should be punished but at the same time if the tenant has a legal right to develop his property he should be able to do so. Happy?

Now maybe you can help me identify the communications manager!

J Spiteri

Aug 14th 2009, 15:29

I wonder why people like E GRECH or Joe Micallef express such anger (??) towards PL????
Today there was another article stating that even the NGOs are against the fact that only the last permit was revoked. So???? PL as a party is publishing its statement as well. It is PL's duty and PL is doing its job well, thank you.
How could citizens be against a statement "Political responsibility was shouldered in any serious democracy"???
I guess it would be wiser to ask comments from Dr. Gonzi, the person who wanted to be responsible for MEPA after JPO's MIstra issue!!!

E.GRECH

Aug 14th 2009, 14:49

Dream on PL!!

And its ok, don't ever feel bad about taking free rides.

Whenever, if ever, you manage to get to govern these islands you can correct all the wrong doings you continuously lament about. But for the time being just keep a list and keep up the good work - your polls must be indicating the success of your ongoing strategies in gaining support and new votes .. . . just as they did during the last election!!

PL = PERMANENTLY LOST!

C. Galea

Aug 14th 2009, 14:49

This is incredible. Lets face facts,rise up and own up. Any person irrespective of their political views and their parties,states how long and how much does one need to hear that this project should not be pursued. Simply put, your neighbours are not likely to ever make you feel wanted??????? So why not go away and die a peaceful and reasonable death rather than a tortured one.

Jeremy J Camilleri

Aug 14th 2009, 14:48

Oh well... I guess people like Joe Micallef have absoultely nothing to say about the subject in question....

Joe Micallef

Aug 14th 2009, 14:35

"Political responsibility was shouldered in any serious democracy, the PL said."

Coming from the PL with its past and present credentials on democracy self defeats the request. I am really curious to know who their communications manager is?