Updated: Siggiewi council approves motion on PL club
(Updated 8.30 p.m.)
Siggiewi council has approved a motion calling on the government not to renew the lease of a property currently being used as a Labour Party club and instead to transfer the property to the council. The lease expires in just under a year.
The motion was moved by deputy mayor Karol Aquilina and approved thanks to the four votes of the PN councillors. The three PL councillors voted against.
Earlier, Dr Aquilina in a statement had urged the Labour Party and its councillors at Siggiewi to act in the interest of the locality.
Dr Aquilina said the council wished to use the property - in St Nicholas Square - as a day care centre for the elderly and also for its own offices. He said that no better property had been found.
Dr Aquilina said that the way how this property was transferred for use by the PL in the 1980s showed that the then Labour government made no distinction between party and country. The method used was 'scandalous,' he said, and the people of Siggiewi had been denied the use of a public property from which several services could have been provided.
The property, formerly known as Villa Siggiewi, used to belong to Mabel Strickland. It was bought by the government in the 1960s and used as a primary school for several years. In 1969 it became a civic centre used by a number of organisations.
In 1981 the Labour Party submitted an offer to lease part of the property. The property was leased to the party on December 11, 1981 - on the eve of the general election, for Lm200 a year. In 1983 other parts of the building became vacant and the governemnt issued a call for those wishing to lease it. This was then also transferred to the Labour Party.
In 1987, a few months before the election, the government accepted a party request and extended the lease for 24 years that expire in June next year, Dr Aquilina said.
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Karl Fenech
Jul 30th 2009, 08:32
musumeci minkejja li nazzjonalist mhux kattiv u zgur li f qalbu jinsab inkwetat fuq sitwazzjoni bhal din--- triq onorabbli wahdu fadallu-- jitlaq mill pn.
A Caruana
Jul 29th 2009, 23:45
Its a pity that the series of Fantozzi or Naked Gun are not planning another sequel.Maybe Zoo is planning something?
This country is full of ideas and lately its budding with stupidities and jokes from all institutions!
Forget Fort Rinella.... the country has become a complete studio!
It seems that the boys have not had enough fun mocking the citizens for all these years.
Marika Baldacchino
Jul 29th 2009, 16:06
I live in Siggiewi and this village badly needs a day center for the elderly, there are hundreds of old people living on their own who have nothing where to go or do. As well, the office of the local council is a poky little room and is crying out for bigger premises. Next door to the local council lies huge premises which are presently housing the Labour Party club. Whenever I pass by this so called club it is either closed or else you see not more than five people standing outside the club drinking a bottle of beer. Any reasonable person (pn or labour) who has Siggiewi at his heart will surely see that this huge building deserves to be used in a more productive way, it's a huge waste of space as it is. Well done to Karol Aquilina, if I were in your position I would have done exactly the same thing ! Sometimes you have to put your foot down and just do the right thing.
david farrugia
Jul 29th 2009, 13:52
shame on the labour councillors who voted against. They should have at least abstained.
Mario Bonnici
Jul 29th 2009, 13:30
Who is the mayor in Siggiewi? Karol Aquilina or Robert Musumeci?
Yday I saw the council meeting on TV and Mr. Musumeci didn't say one word.
We would like to know where you stand on this issue Mr.Musumeci.
A. Mizzi
Jul 29th 2009, 09:30
All in all it is just divertive tactics to draw public attention from hotter Gonzipn issues like
Dr. Victor Scerri's P.N. President resignation,
VAT Department investigation, MITTS scandal, MEPA goings on ,
ADT administration or lack of it , ( Street Cameras, Wardens, Driver Licence scandals, HR Executive's pay off)
ENEMALTA extension tendering investigations
and other apparent and conflict of interests by P.N. sustainers and officials who just do not understand and separate Party and the country's administration .
Dr. Aquilina is proving to be the just future President , the P.N. deserve with his tactics to divide and cause unnecessary litigations between the residents of the village where he is councilor, instead of promoting unity within the village core.
May Dr. Aquilina be reminded that he is a village councilor for all the residents of Siggiewi and not N.P. supporters only and his action could only be describes as PARTISAN whilst his office is PUBLIC.
Colin Camilleri
Jul 29th 2009, 09:15
Of course the government can give the property to anybody else once the lease expires! It is the people's property after all. However the true significance in this motion is not to make justice or to make a people's home out of this building. The real reason can be that the PN led council want first blood from the PL and stick the knife more in the wound.
One thing is sure, if the government gives the place to the local council, it would be the same like giving it to a PN club. And the maltese people will not forget that. What goes around would come around, that is how politics is done in Malta and that is how it will always be.
If the PN want to learn something, they should be the ones who make a difference and not the ones who instigate division.
Two wrongs do not make one thing right.
G.Portelli
Jul 29th 2009, 07:24
Well done Dr. Aquilina. Keep up the good work for the benefit of all the people of Siggiewi. The PL showed what it's worth when it's councillors voted against. They have showed the whole nation what EARTHQUAKE they are capable of if voted to government.
Emmanuel Mazzitelli
Jul 28th 2009, 22:50
I agree with Gerald Fenech. How about setting the record straight for all such properties in the possession of both parties?
Karl Fenech
Jul 28th 2009, 20:41
l-ghaqda li bena musumeci f’ disgha snin sfaxxat f’zewg minuti.
Peter Bonnici
Jul 28th 2009, 18:42
@ David Valenzia Depares
It could never have been my home because my notary would have informed me that the property actually belonged to someone else and could not be transferred. If it was a leased home and the time was up, then it was time up and time to look for a new one. So what are you saying exactly, that all the stolen properties should now remain where they are because people have made it their own?
You should ask the question the other way round : Imagine this was your property and you cannot retake possession of it after the lease ends. Your way of thinking is warped my friend.
Mario Azzopardi
Jul 28th 2009, 17:39
This place belongs to the government ie to all the citizens of Malta. The lease expires next year. The government can leasae it or use it as it seems fit. The LP can cry as much as it likes. In 1987 it gave the lease to itself because it was in office. The PN in 2009 is giving it back to the people be they blue, green, yellow or red. Dr J Muscat can start the next crusade in Siggiewi to take Gerusalem back to the LP. You can all don your armour!!!
Marcel Dingli
Jul 28th 2009, 16:54
A pot calling the kettle black. Min jiskongra jrid ikun pur !
Marcel Dingli
Jul 28th 2009, 16:24
@ John Vella
My principles havn`t changed. How does the saying about the goose and the gander go ??
joseph mifsud
Jul 28th 2009, 16:08
jien ma nafx ghaliex is karol irrid jiehu il kazin biex jamlu centru civiku miskin qed jithassar ix xjuh ta rahal taghna jew qed jgid li il knsill hemm hafna tarag ma jistax fil kunsill jamel lift jew billi jamlu id dejn biex jibnu centru civiku dr.nikola zammit fejn is sindku kien bat fuljett ir rahal kollu possibli tibzaw mi dejn mhux is soltu takom ghax il partit tieghek mdorri jitfa id dejn fuq il pajjiz.
John Vella
Jul 28th 2009, 11:04
@ marcel dingli
If, as you stated, you were a PN supporter, then you would have been one of the many thousands that protested against prominent buildings in various localities being given to labour party clubs for practically free instead of the same buildings being used for the residents use. It is strange how people change with time...........how a personal matter affects their principles!!!!!!!!!!
Gerald Fenech
Jul 28th 2009, 09:35
Although the transfer of the building to the Local Council is welcome, the appropriate authorities should launch an investigation into all political party clubs (including the PN's) to determine which leases are expiring and which have been occupied illegally so that these can be returned to the government and proper commercial offers for these properties can be entertained.
d.attard
Jul 28th 2009, 09:11
Councils have an obligation to preserve social cohesion and unity within communities, especially those communities based on a traditional model.
If the person moving the motion is really convinced of his stated motives, he should have sought initial discussions with all concerned to ensure that any action will preserve unity and will militate in the real interests of residents.
The track record of the siggiewi Local Council appears to be one of harmony and unity working in the interests of residents and I am convinced that if the case for expelling the Labour Party from said premises was soundly based, the Labour side would not have shied away from addressing such a delicate issue.
Moreover, the subjective political rhetoric used was completely out of order and, in my opinion, only serves to stimulate dark emotions.
A sad day indeed for Maltese politics. It splashed its entrails like a rotten egg on the easy pace of village life. Measures to hold on to power at all costs are, in my eyes, getting nastier by the second. I somehow admired the Mayor in the sad process, but the time has come when doves need to stand up and be counted.
GiovDeMartino
Jul 28th 2009, 08:03
Kellu bzonn il-PN ma jibqax ILABLAB FIL-VOJT bhalma spiss jaghmel. Jissemmew tant allegati abbuzi mill-media tal-PN u passi ma jittiehdu qatt. Dawk ikunu qed jigdbu jew? Jissemmew tant abbuzi minn kunsilli laburistri, hafna theddid, hafna paroli u fatti xejn. Il-PN ghadu qed janalizza t-telfa dizastruza ta' erbat ijiem ilu?
Victor Bugeja
Jul 28th 2009, 08:02
A very good move by Dr. Aquilina. This is how work should be done ...i.e in the interest of our localities.
Jd Vella
Jul 28th 2009, 07:53
For those who do not know, this building also served as a library. When it was "taken over' the library was closed (viva l- edukazzjoni). A building that was supposed to serve the community became a luxury for the few.
It is only fair that this building is returned to serve the community.
martin frendo
Jul 28th 2009, 07:30
@all. both political parties should now go one step further and restitute any public and/or historic buildings to the authorities to be utilised for a cultural and general use. that was the past. let us look ahead and start showing some maturity now.. let us show that we are after all a nation thus our first interest should be first our towns and villages where we abode ,followed by our islands. can we mature one tiny step politically..?? can we straighten up some crooked thoughts?
Ramon Casha
Jul 28th 2009, 06:02
Under normal circumstances, when a lease expires the person or entity currently leasing the property has every right to request the lease to be renewed, and typically they will be given a preference simply because they're the ones in it right now. The rent should be revised of course. I expect the owners of the property - in this case the government - to act in this manner, taking into account both the interest expressed by another party - the council - as well as the interest of the current tenants, when deciding whether or not to renew the lease. It must also take into account the fact that if the current tenants are evicted, it will inevitably create tension within the community. Evictions are never pleasant, and will come across as "us vs them" in this case.
ALFRED GRIXTI
Jul 28th 2009, 02:15
If a lease agreement expires it expires. End of story. I wonder, however, if Karol Aquilina, who is aspiring to replace Victor Scerri, is not using this issue to court the PN's delegates votes! Then would he be urging the Gonzi Government not to renew the lease on PN clubs which are public property like the ones in Paola, Ta' Xbiex, Sta Lucia etc, etc !!! You see Karol Aquilina is of pure Nationalist pedigree - when the party is with its back agaist the wall because of scandals by the dozen he resorts to the age old trick of creating a diversion. Too transparent dear Karol. Everybody can see your ploy from miles away! And by the way Joseph Muscat was quizzed on this issue some time ago and has already said that the political parties should reach a holisitc agreement on this issue - what's good for the goose is good for the gander!
David Depares Valenzia
Jul 28th 2009, 01:15
@Peter Bonnici
Imagine its your home!!
p.grima
Jul 28th 2009, 00:39
"The three PL councillors voted against.".............. How shameful!
Why don't the PL buy their own property instead of still holding on to other people's (or public) property? Aren't they collecting enough funds?
The PL sure made good use of the power of incumbency when they were in power!
The PL is still a parasite on third party property.
The PL is still a parasite on third party property.
This is what I call arrogance, since no effort seems to be taken to correct this issue even now that the PL are in opposition.
m.brincat
Jul 28th 2009, 00:39
Hadd wara Hadd tasal ta' Kullhadd anki bil-biki
Enzo Caruana
Jul 27th 2009, 23:51
This sudden move by the Siggiewi PN majority local council is yet another cheap attempt to divert attention from the mess the Gonzi government is in. First it was the Piano model exhibited with pomp and circumstance for people to swoon upon and now this.
This is nothing but a pathetic political ploy aimed to distract the Maltese from the realities of the sorry state in which GonziPn has dragged our country. However, nobody is going to forget the Power Station contract issue, the ADT emissions initiaive that fizzled in smoke thicker than the exhaust fumes we are still inhaling, the Bahrija debacle, the energy price hikes and the VAT fraud scandal to mention just a few of the much more serious problems created by this inept, confused and worn out Nationalist government.
It is a shame for whoever came up with the Siggiewi idea which is only going to inflame poltical animosity in a small community. We would love to hear where Mayor Musumeci stands on this issue
joe caruana
Jul 27th 2009, 23:13
Was it the same government that had to spend thousands of liri to make the Siggiewi new gov. flats habitable after they were hastily built in a hurry for the 1971 election, when the PN suddenly woke up from the deep sleep and found that the elections were on the doorstep. Kieku ma kienx il-labour l'aghmilkom nies, kieku mhux biss kazin tal-labour m'ghandkomx. min irid nisfidah ghal min ghandu l-aqwa memorja.
Marcus Xuereb
Jul 27th 2009, 23:12
issoltu Katavagni kontra il LP
Joe Fenech
Jul 27th 2009, 23:09
This is OBVIOUS REVENGE!!!!! Can't be more in the face than this!
Where are Gonzi's 'strong pair of hands' in all this? Why is he letting these people pull down the party to such abyssal shallowness?
BRING IN A NEW RIGHT PARTY!
S Rizzo
Jul 27th 2009, 22:54
As your report states: "Dr Aquilina said that the way how this property was transferred for use by the PL in the 1980s showed that the then Labour government made no distinction between party and country."
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. For your info, dear Karol, last week your party launched a PIN publication at Castille. That's a partisan activity organised at the office of the Prime Minister, who is supposed to be the PM of all maltese and gozitans.
Imma kif jghidu bil-Malti, l-ispizjar milli jkollu jaghtik!
Peter Bonnici
Jul 27th 2009, 22:32
@ C. Marsh. Why this? because it is public property thats why. And like it, if there are any PN clubs that belong to the general public then they too ought to be returned, once leases expire, if of course there is a need for them by the local society. If anything, the seeds of hatred were sown when the most prominent buildings in practically each and every village piazza was taken over by the labour government and handed over to the labour party. You ought first condemn what happened then, and now accept that the way forward is returning what is rightfully public property to the public.
Nobody can compare the political hatred in Malta to what prevailed in South Africa, yet there, they managed to overcome it by coming forward and putting right the wrongs. Here we're expected to forget the wrongs otherwise we'll be hated. I think the Siggiewi council should see this through, and serve as a lesson to all that wrongs must be put right; There and everywhere.
D Zammit
Jul 27th 2009, 22:07
Dan l-ghageb kollu fuq bicca bini f'nofs pjazza. Kulhadd ixejjer il-kliem "skandaluz" u "xokkanti" 'l hemm u 'l haw, imma qishom ftit huma li jaghrfu li kulhadd jigbed lejh, mhux f'dan il-pajjiz biss imma kullimkien!
Barra minn hekk, dawk kollha li qed tghidu li din il-propjeta' tista' tkun utli ghall-pubbliku ingenerali, iva, naqbel maghkom. Bhalma jistghu ikunu utli ukoll il-flus li ilhom jintefqu f'karozzi, safar u kummiedji generali kemm il-Partit Nazzjonalista ilu fil-gvern, ie kwart ta' seklu. Jigifieri nieqfu nitkazaw b'haddiehor u nikbru naqa f'dik li hi politika, mhux naqghu ghal daw ic-cucati!
M Vassallo
Jul 27th 2009, 21:57
Prosit Karol, nies bhalek irridu s-siggiwin. Ghaliex m'ghandux il-kunsill ikollu post dicenti bhall-kunsilli ohra. Ghaliex ix-xjuh m'ghandhomx ikollhom post dicenti u centrali fejn jiltaqghu.
S. Zammit
Jul 27th 2009, 21:53
No party, company, or man use property owned by the public and he pays for it. Either the lease is removed or the price goes up to a reasonable amount.
Victor Laiviera
Jul 27th 2009, 21:50
According to the website of the Siggiewi Local Council, (http://www.siggiewi.gov.mt/council1.asp) the Deputy Mayor is Norbert Farrugia, not Karol Aquilina. Is the website wrong? Is it out of date? Has the Deputy Mayot been changed? If so, may we know when and why?
Was the Mayor, Dr Musumeci, present for the meeting?
Alexander Azzopardi
Jul 27th 2009, 21:50
after reading all coments by the blogers hehe !!!
i come to the conclusion lets hope that all band clubs and politics clubs be returned to the public !!!!
there after we wil have approx 85%less Bandclubs
some 50% less sport clubs
and arround 50%+ less from both political partys
Go to lands department and joint office and get your answers !!!
dear pn supporters have a look arround you than blog !!!
G Bonello
Jul 27th 2009, 21:50
Prosit Karol e! Minn tant postijiet vojta gos siggiewi il kazin tal labour trid tihu! ax ma ddurx dawra u tara lartijiet tal gvern li git ikkapparata...trid tilhaq sindku qisek e!
A. Borg
Jul 27th 2009, 21:15
Se tkun sikkina li se taqta minn zewg nahat u j"Alla li l-poplu jgawdi minnha u mhux xi bazuzlu.
Il-poplu ta Sta.Lucia jaf xi tfisser din meta Tennis Court tbiddel f'Kazin Nazzjonalista!
David Pisani
Jul 27th 2009, 21:09
I think this issue, although the argument put forward is a social one, is more a political one. I truly understand the need for elderly homes, why not. Even the clubs, be it religion, band or political are all classified as social clubs, they are not there for profit making.
May I ask, what about public land given to the private for a cheap price few years ago and not on a lease. I can mention portomaso land. Look at the trenchwall (Built by the St John's Cavalier times) being destroyed to make way for a yatch marina. Even the beach which before was used by local community is now closed as a private area.
What about the land at Bugibba given for free to GO plc.
Justice does not look at PL and PN as this is good, other is bad. Social Justice is about putting the interest of the people first.
Ernest Vella
Jul 27th 2009, 20:58
bil-paroli kollu fuq il-Mepa - malli jmissu lilek ahh tghid ukoll - is-siegha waslet fejn ser naraw il-politika gdida x'ser trendi - firda jew opportunita - jekk haddiehor jahseb li ghandu dritt jiehu dak li haqqu jaghmlu ukoll - la Ta Xbiex u lanqas hadd m'ghandu jkun imnaqqas min dan id-dritt mela kurragg - ejja ha nehhu dawn il-pizijiet ta l-imghoddi u nibdew pagna ta serjeta
Denis Catania
Jul 27th 2009, 20:46
If this lease in not renewed no lease for political clubs should be renewed as they are nothing but trouble. All they do is divide the neighborhoods. NO PN clubs, NO PL clubs.
Joe Cassar
Jul 27th 2009, 20:39
@ Oscar Cassar
Just for the record, the (M)LP was not "given" the Raffles and the Victortia Hall - they were transferred in exchange for a big piece of land plus a large, relatively new building when the Freedom Press was handed over to be transformed into Malta Shipbuilding.
The Gov got a real bargain, there.
N Grima
Jul 27th 2009, 18:55
@ C.Calleja -- hopefully both and others are returned. in malta band and party clubs are a very important in society, however these are bountiful while elderly homes are too few and badly distributed in our aging population.
Peter Bonnici
Jul 27th 2009, 18:43
Why should there be any question? Lease expires - everybody out !
Paul Borg
Jul 27th 2009, 18:41
Funny how some people pass from being Nationalists, to extreme right supporters and then are found socialising in Labour party clubs nowadays... i just wonder how can anyone question the importance of a day centre as opposed to that of a political party's 'office'. These prominent properties were forcefully taken by the labour government in the eighties and its about time they return to their rightful owner once more, rightful owner being the general public...
Joseph E Briffa
Jul 27th 2009, 18:27
This is a good move by the Siggiewi council. It's a shame really to let this fine building in the hands of a political party, when it can be put to better use and be enjoyed by all the people of the village. The way it was handed on a platter to MLP is nothing short of scandalous, but then that was the way things were done in those days of socialist bliss Indeed this is only one of many such instances. To this day there are people who are still benefitting from the substantial powers of the then Housing Secretaries who had to follow the dictates of their minister. If it weren't for the protection they were given by their ministers they would have lost their cases in court due to the abusive use of the Requisition laws. it's about time that justice is done with the erstwhile owners of properties that were requisitioned in those days, particularly in cases where the property was handed on a plate to labour party clubs. There are quite a number and the powers-that-be should not renew the leases when they expire, and the properties returned to their rightful owners.
Oscar Cassar
Jul 27th 2009, 17:49
If Labour supporters living in Siggiewi requires a meeting place, they should collect money and buy a property for their partisan needs and not take a government-owned property that can have a much better use for the locality in general.
What is the use nowadays of having a (ex) primary school to be used as a ‘political’ club? Labour government ‘made’ no distinction between its party and the country’s needs, and this case (like in the case of other MLP clubs, The Raffles, Victoria Hall ecc) is a particular example where we can still have hands on experience.
E. Vassallo
Jul 27th 2009, 17:29
@Marcel Dingli
So you expect the Government to provide a free premises to have the usual flixkun birra!!!!!
C.Sammut
Jul 27th 2009, 17:04
Victor Laiviera has a very valid point here. This sounds strongly of revenge. And as James Grech said, it will create more political strife in this country. If this move is to be adopted, it should be adopted across board for all and sundry.
James De Giorgio
Jul 27th 2009, 16:50
It's interesting to know just how many other shameful acts of the Malta Labour Party's dark years will come to light in the future. Did Mintoff just give away land and property at give away prices to his supporters or what?!
Enlighten me because I ('m lucky that I) wasn't yet born back then.
Marcel Dingli
Jul 27th 2009, 16:40
It is the deputy mayor pushing this because he does not see eye to eye with the mayor. The PN councilors are split on this issue.
C. Marsh
Jul 27th 2009, 16:32
The Govt has lots of land and property. Why this? Are we going to start sowing the seeds of hatred again? Come on stop this nonsense. Is this the way forward Mr Aquilina and is this what the motto of 'Flimkien Kollox Possibli' means??? I don't believe The Mayor is involved in this as I know him as a gentleman in politics .
Roderick Mifsud
Jul 27th 2009, 16:20
Prosit Karol....imma possibli ga Siggiewi kollu l-Klabb tal PL trid tiehu....taf kemm artijiet tal gvern vojta...Bicca art enormi wara l-mument tat tabib N Zammit fejn il Bus Stage....miskien jixtieq jsemma lehnu, ahjar Karol u l kunsilliera kollha tas siggiewi taraw l stat ta telqa li hawn fir rahal...icempel customer care jew tmur ghal xejn, ahjar taraw t-triq li taghti ghal ta Kandja,xi dizastru fija,ahjar taraw it-telqa u l hmieg li hemm madwar ir-rahal...Imsemmi biss iz-zommha tal flats il qodma qisek qieghed il Mizbla!!! U miskien dan Karol jixtieq jaghmel xi haga ghar rahal...kemm fadal l-elezzjoni tal kunsill,jaqaw tixtieq tilhaq sindku minflokk is Sur Musumeci!!! Kunsill lokali siggiewi qabdu l barri min qrunu u mhux min dembu biex nidhru l qed naghmlu xi haga.
Neal Attard
Jul 27th 2009, 16:18
@Victor Laiviera..Mr. Laiviera you made a good point ! I agree with you or perhaps a particular group/division within PN itself does not want Mr. Musumeci to be part of it. This motion by Karol Aquilina is dangerous.
Lawrence Cutajar
Jul 27th 2009, 16:16
Government buildings should not be used as political party clubs. It's a shame for Labour Party to even contest or discuss this motion let alone vote against such a motion. It is not just the Siggiewi MLP Club that should be returned back to the Government but all other political clubs that are Govt. properties and the PL has got quite a few around Malta. The MLP may change its leader but can never change the way they do politics. Those opposing such a motion should resign either from being a councillor or a member of parliament.
Carmelo Dalli
Jul 27th 2009, 16:15
@Victor Laiviera
Hsibtek ser issaqsi dar kif propjeta pubblika tinghat lil Partit Laburista minn Gvern Laburista lejliet l-elezzjoni ?
Hsibtek ser tikkundanna dak li qal il-Kunsillier tal-Partit Laburista l-bierah dwar reazzjoni aggressiva u li din id-decizjoni ser iggib firda fost is-siggiewin ?
Minnhu quddiemu ma jarax biss ahmar jew blu, jaqbel ma dak li ser jaghmel Dr. Aquilina. Imnalla jkunu nies bhalu illi jkollhom il-kuragg jiehdu dawn il-passi !
Niskanta kif Joseph Muscat f'kazi bhal dawn jibqa sieket u ma jikkumentax !!
Marco Galea
Jul 27th 2009, 16:04
What an immature move by Karol Aquilina. Is this Lawrence Gonzi's attitude to create division where serenity riegns?
Immature Aquilina! So immature!!
George Muscat
Jul 27th 2009, 16:03
@ James Grech
The only immaturity in this whole story comes from within Labour. How can a "democratic" political party like the PL argue against using public property for the benefit of the whole community and not just Labourites?!?! Would you be willing to let the Labour Party use your property as it's club? I hope not.
@ Karol Aquilina... please stick to your position until the property becomes a centre for the elderly. That is what the people of Siggiewi deserve. You have my full support on this one.
M. Catania
Jul 27th 2009, 16:02
@Marcel Dingli
There are a lot more of ex MLp at the PN club and you can go and see for yourself!!!!!
ACaruana
Jul 27th 2009, 16:02
Is this a matter who is going to unite the people of Siggiewi or divide them? For politics we are ready to do everything, even divide the people who voted for them!
Shame on you!
George Muscat
Jul 27th 2009, 16:01
@ James Grech
The only immaturity in this whole story comes from within Labour. How can a "democratic" political party like the PL argue against using public property for the benefit of the whole community and not just Labourites?!?! Would you be willing to let the Labour Party use your property as it's club?
@ Karol Aquilina... please stick to your position until the property becomes a centre for the elderly. That is what the people of Siggiewi deserve. You have my full support on this one.
M Callus
Jul 27th 2009, 15:59
Immagina dan il-kazin kienet skola!!!Ejja Joseph Muscat urina li int ragel!!!!
Noel Cutajar
Jul 27th 2009, 15:59
I find some of the comments below quite amusing...if there was a lease agreement, the government has to respect it. Third parties who have a direct interest in the property can call at the Court to show any wrong doings. Since, anything which has been done was a matter between the government (who owns the property) and a political party, then it is the government will decide whether to extend or renew the lease. It is not Dr. Muscat who will decide on this matter. Any person who owns a property will do his utmost to keep it. But finally, no law can force the owner to lease the property to the same tenant unless there is something written on the contract. What would the PN apologists say if the LP would opt to buy the property?? As usual, they would miss the bus and confuse matters. If this was a scandalous matter as was suggested they can bring forward their case only if they have a direct interest...
Victor Laiviera
Jul 27th 2009, 15:40
How come this appeal was not made by the Mayor - Architect Robert Musumeci?
Maybe he is busy with "other matters"?
Marcel Dingli
Jul 27th 2009, 15:39
If the property is taken away from the Labour Party, where will those who once supported the PN meet. There are quite a few of them at this Siggiewi club, and i am one of them.
Mario Zarb
Jul 27th 2009, 15:39
Why is the deputy mayor and not the mayor spearheading this?
James Grech
Jul 27th 2009, 15:34
Karol is a hard working person, however this move is not a mature one, in my opinion. This will undoubtedly create serious division in a council (as well within the electorate) which worked hand in hand and proved itself over the years. I'm sure that with some serious brainstorming another site can be identified for the mentioned purpose.
C Farrugia
Jul 27th 2009, 15:15
This is one hell of a good news!
I wonder what the PL's position will be.
Hector Mamo
Jul 27th 2009, 15:10
Prosit !! Hekk ghandhom isiru l-affarijiet ! Bini pubbliku ghandu jitgawda mill-pubbliku mhux mill-Partit Laburista.
Tajjeb li nkunu nafuhom dawn l-affarijiet, kif kinhu jinghataw il-propjetajiet pubblici minn gvern Laburista, qabel l-elezzjoni.
Nispera li l-Kunsilliera tal-Partit Laburista jivvotaw favur, li s-Siggiwin jinghataw lura dan il-palazz biex jintuza mir-residenti.
Il-bierah f' kumment lill-ahbarijiet il-bierah il-kunsillier laburista tas-Siggiewi Kola Cassar qal illi r-reazzjoni tal-Laburisti fis-Siggiewi ser tkun aggressiva u din il-mozzjoni ser iggib firda. - Il-Partit Laburista ma kkundannax dawn il-kummenti !!!
a zammit
Jul 27th 2009, 14:59
Issa s-siegha tal-prova ta' Joseph Muscat; issa jrid jaghti prova jekk hux 'fuq in-naha tal-poplu' (kif ihobb jghid) jew fuq in-naha tal-Partit.
Jekk jaghzel li jiggieled biex il-MLP izomm il-kazin allura se jkun il-kaz ta' follow my words but not my actions ... jekk verament irid ikun in-naha tal-poplu jaghzel li jcedi il-kazin issa li spiccat il-kerha u jaghtih lill-poplu tas-Siggiewi...
Nistennew u naraw!
Robert Portelli
Jul 27th 2009, 14:54
Let's wait and see what will happen ....... and hopefully all property transferred in a 'scandalous' manner, by all governments will be treated the same!!
C Calleja
Jul 27th 2009, 14:42
If the motion is accepted Ta' Xbiex Labour Council should do the same with PN club at Ta' Xbiex.
Obviously, as a start. Other should follow.
R Spiteri
Jul 27th 2009, 14:38
good one Karol Aquilina....call LAbour's bluff....now show us Dr Muscat what new political season you want.Labour are haunted by their shameful past.....speak up Alfred Sant and ask Labour to give back to the people what is owned by the people!