92 migrants on their way to France

Raymond Sammut

Jul 10th 2009, 18:18

@ M. Mercieca If Europe is "aging" as a result of 1.5 child per woman, then by how much is China "aging" at 1.0 child per woman? I don't see the Chinese government panicking. A lower birth rate translates to a smaller population size and not to an "aging" population. This is established population dynamics theory. Your other argument that "man power must be imported to collect taxes for future pensioners" is a clear indication --or more precisely, an insinuation-- that European nations employ second rate economists in their treasury departments. In Australia, for example, the aim of every Federal treasurer is to ensure that every citizen --men and women alike from all walks of life-- makes regular contributions throughout their working lives in order to fund their own personal pension when they retire at age 65. Because people in Australia are now, on average, living longer, the Federal government is planning to raise the retirement age to 67 and not, as you claim, increase the migration intake. There is clearly no substance whatsoever in your claims. There is absolutely no economics theory to back them up. You simply keep repeating them ad nauseam.

M. Mercieca

Jul 10th 2009, 16:12

@ Raymond Sammut

The average birth rate within the EU is down to about 1.5 children per woman. This is raising fears among EU governments they will not be able to finance pensions systems for ageing European population. Therefore, man power must be imported to collect taxes for future pensioners.
This simply means the irreversible population deficit of aging Europe must be filled by immigrants. All politicians (including far-right parties) know that.


In today’s paper please have a look at the following:
In a statement issued to commemmorate the 20th World Population Day tomorrow, the National Statistics Office said that changes in the total population were a result of natural increase - the difference between birth and death counts, and migration - the difference between immigration and emigration. Nearly 75 percent of the population increase was due to migration.

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20090710/local/malta-sees-slight-population-growth

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Please don't take it I am in favor of illegal immigrants. In Malta/Europe the Black peoples (LEGAL AND ILLEGALS) are s not welcomed. This is Racism.

lgalea

Jul 10th 2009, 08:50

M. Mercieca
Seeing the last of the illegal immigrants leave Malta and no other illegal immigrant being allowed to set foot in Malta.

J Galea

Jul 9th 2009, 22:31

This action by France is truly commendable and sets a good example for other European countries. The US last year also assisted in this manner.

Jack Briffa

Jul 9th 2009, 20:03

Funny really judgeing by the clothes they were wearing Malta looked after them pretty well, however one of the taxi drivers told a colleague of mine that they were glad that they are leaving Malta to a better country and a higher stand of livng in a new modern land of plenty, well if thats no ungratefulness then i don't know what is.,

Robert Callus

Jul 9th 2009, 19:35

@Louise Vella
Is their a reason for your negativity? 92 human beings are starting a new life, God knows what they went through. They are leaving Malta like you wish.
They have full suitcases yes. So?

anthea doughty

Jul 9th 2009, 19:25

And what's the betting that from France they eventually continue onto Britain?!

@ Luke Rocco
As far as I am concerned, NO-ONE has the right to enter our countries illegally when our countries are FULL UP and struggling to cope with existing numbers. Not to mention the fact that is at the expense, in every way, of those already living and working there.....

As far as I am concerned Nick Giffin has got it right in his recent comments about the mass saturation of Europe by sub-Saharan Africans and the mass exodus via Libya.

Raymond Sammut

Jul 9th 2009, 18:53

@ Luke Rocco

Having "the right to find shelter and a better life" is one thing, but planning and costing the relocation of people is a different matter altogether. We all have rights, Mr Rocco. Any idea on how much these 92 people will be costing the French government? Maltese taxpayers paid an average of four years per person in upkeep, and these taxpayers had the right to have a say in the matter. They obviously have been denied that right because someone has clearly acted illegally.

And if there were any truth in your claim that 'illegal economic migrants' are sent back almost immediately, why there are thousands of these illegal entrants still occupying Maltese land and being maintained by taxpayer's funds?

P Debono

Jul 9th 2009, 18:29

Funny how they keep talking on their new mobile phones and wearing their fancy suits. And an honest taxpayer like me cannot even pay his bills!

Raymond Sammut

Jul 9th 2009, 18:19

@ M. Mercieca

Your remark "ageing Europe" is most insulting to Europeans. It is becoming clearer and clearer that this planet needs to reduce population, not increase it. This has nothing to do with "aging" and has everything to do with economics. True. France contributed to soil erosion on the African continent by way of CO2 emissions. It is now up to France to work out what to do with these additional 92 mouths, and thousands more heading for France and elsewhere as time moves on.

Denis Catania

Jul 9th 2009, 17:05

92 gone thousands to go. This was the results when the government got tough for a day or two, and they threatened to vote no and not to sign the immigration pact. We need to get tough with the EU. Although they are starting to follow Italy's lead and are getting tougher. The government should have listened to the Maltese years ago. Things would be better.

The facebook group Save Malta From Illegal Immigration held a demonstration in front of the French Embassy in New York in the first week of December 2008. A Marie-Laure Charrier from the French Embassy came out and accepted our petition and communicated with us for 2 hours on behalf of the French government. She assured me the petition will be sent to Paris to the highest immigration office. The Maltese need to keep protesting. We have a lot of work left, but we are starting to make progress.

M. Mercieca

Jul 9th 2009, 16:38

Well done Dr. Gonzi and I sincerely wish them good luck in ageing Europe.
Merci bein Monsieur Sarko, more importantly please stop destabilizing Africa and create the conditions for more Africans to quit homes.

@ Mon Dieu
Please God, help me to know what could calm down our ‘patriots’ Vella’s and Galea’s as it seems nothing make them happy.

Joanne Micallef

Jul 9th 2009, 15:37

@ Mr Luke Rocco - You are very much mistaken re the economic migrants being sent back, unfortunately we still have to lump the majority that land here, cause in order for an illegal immigrant to be repatriated their country of origin has to want or be able to accept them back. ( sometimes they even ask for payment to do so, remember those Tunisians a while back? )

Anyways this is good news, I dont care what they were wearing or how much cloths they have in their suitcase, what I care about is the fact that we managed to shift 92 migrants to another country. Lets hope they make the best out of this opportunity, especially since there are quite a few children involved. Thank you France.

jamie pace

Jul 9th 2009, 15:11

@ Louise vella....thats a good sign and message to the international world that we maltese are very generous,loving and hospitable people....do you ve a problem with seeing them leave with suit cases?.....must you always ve to say something bad about this people?...Havent you said enough already?...at least one would expect you to wish them some luck in their latest adventure at relocating else where....since you strongly do not want them here in malta....give them a brake please and trade easily....

O Galea

Jul 9th 2009, 14:54

Evive la France. Une amie pour sempre. Merci.

Danika Vella

Jul 9th 2009, 14:33

THANK YOU SO MUCH FRANCE.... we love you! and the immigrants too i would guess!

Ramon Zammit

Jul 9th 2009, 14:33

@ Adrian Allain

My comment read "Good, I hope more others follow their example. I wish them a good luck in their new adventure."

What I meant is that more should follow their example so that they alleviate the problem from our country once and for all.

T.Gauci

Jul 9th 2009, 14:24

92 ? very few. we heard about this long time ago

@Luke Rocco

They are not sent back, you must know that these illegal immigrants are unidentified. "illegal" immigrants have no right to be here whether they are economic or asylum seekers.

louise vella

Jul 9th 2009, 14:16

These people came to Malta on boats, without documents, money or belongings. They are leaving much better than they have come and are taking with them full suitcases. Who has paid for all this? Are Malta and the Maltese so bad after all to illegal immigrants?

D.Bonello

Jul 9th 2009, 13:51

They look so happy to leave the island. I am sure the maltese government can talk to more EU countries to help illegal immigrants leave this rock.

Luke Rocco

Jul 9th 2009, 12:53

@AnnMarie Pawley

These migrants do not want our 'pity' but 'respect'. There is a big difference in it. Also, if they have worked hard and bought the said clothes themselves, whats the big deal. It's their hard earned cash!!!

@Adrian Allain
Kindly note, that 'illegal economic migrants' are sent back almost immediately, since they have no rights to be in Malta in the first place. However, those who are asylum seekers and refugees have the right to find shelter and a better life. Ironically, the only way to do that is to enter a country in an illegal manner, since no procedures are in place that allow you to do that, especially in Malta.

Ryan Bugeja

Jul 9th 2009, 12:45

@AnnMarie Pawley
These clothes are available in Africa as well... so could be that they brought them along. Do you by any chance know if any of the clothes these migrants are wearing were received as donations from the Maltese public? Just asking, cos it seems judging often comes first especially with such minority groups. I'm surprised you didn't comment about one of them talking on his mobile phone... ah cos maybe you realise that that's the only way he can communicate... ;)

Adrian Allain

Jul 9th 2009, 12:22

@Ramon Zammit
So what you are saying is that you want more to arrive here illegally from Libya by boat, stay for 4 years and them move on?
The 'success' of these 92 in acheiving their goal will I'm afraid encourage more to come.
The only way to stop this peaceful invasion of Europe by illegal economic migrants is to send them back immediately.

Charles Micallef

Jul 9th 2009, 12:09

@ AnnMarie Pawley

Could it be they are quality counterfeit reproductions? Some are so well made that one can hardly tell the difference unless you know exactly where to look!

Still we wish them Bon Voyage and hope that many more will follow soon!

Dennis Azzorpardi

Jul 9th 2009, 12:01

we highly commend the french Government for keeping up to their promise as regards burden sharing....hope other EU countries will see this move an encouragement for them to take part on the burden sharing agreement.....well done Gonzi PN...We re now reaping the dividend of your good work....A big WELDONE to France and not forgetting the USA....

A Cammiller

Jul 9th 2009, 11:37

Ilna nisimghu bil-grupp ta' immigranti li ghandhom imorru Franza xhur.

Dawn huma l-istess 92 li ilnha nisimghu li sejrin xhur shah. Grazzi lil Franza.

Issa nistenna li jiehdu ftit mijiet l-iSvezja fejn mara Lawrence Gonzi fil-gimghat li ghaddew u tghidx kemm ftahar kemm se jtuna appogg.

R Cauchi

Jul 9th 2009, 11:20

Can we know the total number of immigrants now staying in Malta? Since the beginning of summer we have had no new arrivals so far while till last summer we had boats coming in every week, plus now with the burden sharing and some repatriation we are also getting rid of the once staying here. I think till now this summer looks good for us! :)

Ramon Zammit

Jul 9th 2009, 11:16

Good, I hope more others follow their example. I wish them a good luck in their new adventure.

AnnMarie Pawley

Jul 9th 2009, 11:16

If these people want us to pity their situation so much, why are most of them always pictured in Adidas, Puma & whatever sportswear? & please don't tell me they got them from the monti, since you can tell when a shirt is made of cheap, flimsy material, or expensive, hard wearing material.