Migrant beaten up in Paceville dies

d bugeja

Jun 12th 2009, 09:50

I am deeply sorry that this man's destiny turned out in this tragic circumstances, but I do not think that he was killed because of his colour. unfortunetly, this things happen, remember the Australian/maltese guy in Greece being killed by the nightclub bouncer. The victim was not coloured.

Being drunk,whether white or black cant be allowed into nightclubs. We all know how a drunk person will react or of how he cant reason sensibly.
Let us all hear the whole story first and let us hope justice is made whether the victim is black or white.

@Helen Mc Aleer

The maltese who emigrated to Australia,Canada and the UK went there legally with all the necessary documents, so please be informed before speaking out and they made a good living for themselves. I do not think that at that time the Government of these countries accepted more than they could afford to host.
Moreover, I do not think that no country is happy about having illegal immigrants sweeping into their own land.
Would you if they came barging into your own home?

Maruska Agius

Jun 12th 2009, 08:47

@ Bogdan Cilia

Was he beaten up for nothing even last year!! Kemm kien bezzul... Alla jahfirlu!!!!!!!

Mr fenech

Jun 12th 2009, 07:21

This is not about race just fool trying to get into a club drunk ! & a situation that got out of hand!

There are many fools in Paceville & foolish behaviour is encouraged for profit so what else is new!

Joe Fenech

Jun 12th 2009, 00:09

Let's hope the government does something concrete about illegal immigration and stops giving refugee status to everyone who whinges about how miserable a life he's living back in his country. This is credit crunch, people are under pressure and the European have worked hard for everything they've earnt (apart the English who looted half of the world). Special treatment and weakness from the government is going to end up in more tragedies which is very unfortunate.

Michael Farage

Jun 12th 2009, 00:06

White or black, this bouncer killed another man. I just hope that this tragic death will be properly investigated and new standards of accountability and professionalism will be brought to bear on Paceville and its accepted thuggish culture.

simon galea

Jun 11th 2009, 23:01

Mr.Malcolm Seychell,

You are always prompt to put in your comments whenever such a topic arises. What you unfortunately always forget to do is to condemn rascism. While giving benefit of doubt to the bouncer (let us assume that this 'macho man' is evil to all irrespective of colour), definetly the passerby who kicked Mr. Abubaker acted out through racism.
We are all awaiting your condemnation while looking forward to see you next Saturday at Paceville for the anti racism peacful walk.

Bogdan Cilia

Jun 11th 2009, 22:25

@ D. Seisun. How old are you ? do you have an education ? In working @ pv as a life maintanance ? I bet that half of the Immagrants that come to our country would do anything to have the privalages that you have. If they had a shot to study, a shot to work, a Shot to be respected, and a Shot to live the same life you are living, they would be 1000 more time's more successful than you are.

I know people who have entered in clubs and where 'Tipsy' and even Drunk. May I notice, he was with two French people, the Bouncer let them in, but didnt let him in. He didnt let him in because some clubs are givin some rules by the owners, and no black's are aloud inside. I know this white boy, he wasnt let in, cuz he wasnt under the dress code of the club 'Fuego', and the bouncers didnt let him in cause he was dressed up as a rapper. And no dress code was present on walls.

Think before you talk, you dont even know how racist this county is....

Janice Vella

Jun 11th 2009, 22:02

May God rest your soul Suleiman! And may justice be served!

AnnMarie Pawley

Jun 11th 2009, 21:21

@ Jeff Honeywell,

Sorry if we're trying to protect our country from intruders - we're not discriminating against the indigenous people like you do in Australia (aborigines just in case u missed the point) and g'day to u too.

Debbie Hollis

Jun 11th 2009, 21:09

I knew this immigrant who was indeed black. Myself and my partner both considered him a friend who would always buy us a drink. He was a lovely friendly guy who was often the worse for alcohol but never "fighting drunk".
We will miss him. May he rest in peace.

steve elliott, UK

Jun 11th 2009, 20:43

back to the 70's. tut tut tut

Mary Xerri (UNI)

Jun 11th 2009, 20:06

Sorry Mr.Joe Xuereb i know what the subject we are talking about , but i daresay i have now lost the plot because you are not coming out with just plain English for the ordinary layman, in other words i haven't got the faintest idea about your grammer, you are useing such word that most ordinary journalists try to avod for the good of the ordinary reader. Excuse my ignorance but i just haven't got the faintest idea of what you are trying to say.

michael southgate

Jun 11th 2009, 18:44

WHAT HAPPENED TO INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!

D Seisun

Jun 11th 2009, 18:30

This is not a question of racism, I work in clubs in Paceville and when a maltese person came in drunk and became aggressive, he was immediately chucked out of the club for the safety of other customers. The thing is that he was entering a private property and the person in charge saw that the state he was in, could be of danger to other people and to the place itself so he was refused entrance. He should have backed off and not tried to show off. This thing of racism is totally babyish as we nowadays live in a common world and I am sure that if it had to be a white person who did such action and got beaten up no one would mention racism. All this pressure on racism is giving these people more power to do what they want.

Maurice Daymond

Jun 11th 2009, 18:05

my motto to the Maltese is to get a life as opposed to losing a life i'm English from the East Side of London, please friends don't fall in the same trap as my country i believe we are now known as the knife culture country and believe you me its not safe to walk the street of London anymore its way beyond redemption and if this lovly island reflects the same image it would be a big mistake and a big shame all round for everyone. Just becaue a person is black or of a dark skin underneath they bleed the same colour blood as we, a bit of sence goes a long way and not acting like wild animals, the law will see to that i'm sure.

Derick Jansen

Jun 11th 2009, 17:53

Lets face it there are bouncers and there are other catogory of bouncers who are well educated and know how to handle a situation without resulting to violence, i have been doing the art of Karate for 9 years now in the Netherlands and also in Belguim, i am actually originally from Belgium, yes i am a trained bouncer but the first thing i was thought before i started my self defence sport is to stay calm and just use my brains and inteligence to control the situation without resulting and behaving like a wild animal ready to pounce on a victim, unfortunitly some Maltese bouncers in PaceVille are not up to it and should seek another form of employment, as people regardless of skin colour have the right to enjoy a night out and behave like a human should behave in a public place. I don't know the whole story of this incident but as they say the customer is always right and an example should be set out to the people responisble, if necessary close the premises down. Laws in my country are more stiffer then Malta. Learn from other's experience the tourist will start to flock in.

Joe Xuereb

Jun 11th 2009, 17:31

Helen McAleer. Maltese immigrants 'maybe illegal'? Until fairly recently, all Maltese people going anywhere were legal, either by quota (Australia, USA, etc.) or free entry (to the UK). More recently I am sure there have been illegal Maltese going, or trying to, gain entry anywhere. But not in their thousands And rightly or wrongly, they fit in. And they come from a culture where earning one's living is expected. So please, no emotive anecdotes. They do not stand you in good stead.
To the rest of the macho culture hypocrites who are lambasting this bouncer - he could be a swine - may I say. Many will be found glued to a TV screen if there is an important boxing match (that is where two men beat each other senseless and sometimes fatally for big money and the fun of macho man). These same men lambast bouncers and fail to recognise their worth. And furthermore, these same men cringe, or very much worse than cringe, at the thought of two men holding hands or God forbid, kissing. What's that saying about measures and standards coming in twos? I'm not very good with sayings. I am a pragmatist.

Bogdan Cilia

Jun 11th 2009, 17:30

I knew this guy, may his soul rest in peace, after all, he only wanted to find Freedom in our country, and instead our civilization, hypocrites, ignorant society of our's who declare themself's European's, have killed him slowly, first by beating him up a year ago @ pv, he was jailed for 10 months, and now,they have killed him.....

I'm Sad :( and yeah, today we can make it official, I'm embarrassed, ashamed, to call myself a Maltese Citizen. We should have given him respect and Freedom, instead we gave him racist comments, and beaten him up, and put him in prison....

I hate this society, and if you got any comment's, think twice before you act, let's give him the respect which he deserves, after all, GOD HAS CREATED ALL MEN EQUAL

R.I.P Suleiman..... :(

Michelle Dali

Jun 11th 2009, 17:14

I find this whole incident extremely sad. It is so sad that this young man has lost his life.

While I condemn the fact that he was punched by the bouncer, it is wrong to say he was not allowed into the premises because of the colour of his skin - I have seen many white people refused entry into nightclubs because they were drunk and could have caused trouble.

It is also very lamentable that certain people are claiming that this incident is proof that the Maltese are racist. They should stop to think for a minute that unfortunately, incidents like this happen in every country in the world, all the time. It is wrong to generalise, just as it is wrong to decide that the bouncer involved in this incident willingly killed this man. Has no one ever heard of a person falling over, hitting their head on the pavement, and dying as a result of the fall? We should not be so quick to judge the bouncer before all the facts in this case are brought to light in a court of law.

Joe Xuereb

Jun 11th 2009, 16:45

R. Filletti. We see you were very well trained and still going strong in your indoctrination. You do realise of course that some of us have been there but have moved on. You have chosen to stay with what you were taught and seem quite happy with it, even to the point of self-congratulations. That is your perspective and good luck. Before you jump the gun, may I remind you that it was you who mentioned humanitarian Catholic Malta, and lucky with it. You then say people should sort out the political aspect of all this. So you admit there is a problem. You chose to wax lyrical with kid-glove solutions. The hard-shelled nuts you suggest others should deal with. I, to use a cliche, respect your right to self-express. But that is not the same as respecting what it is you self-express. From where I stand, I deal in pragmatism. I chose to be subjecitve only to my unclouded vision. You could try it.
Incidentally, I am against anyone's violent death. Read my previous comments and you will know what I mean. People have rights. They need to exercise responsibilities. You too have heard that one I am sure.

Geralda Azzopardi

Jun 11th 2009, 16:21

I have seen maltese and foreigners being escorted out or being stopped from entering public facilities, sometimes more forcfully than others, irrispective of their skin colour. No one knows the whole story, apart from the people involved. But I'm sure that there is a reason behind every behaviour. So stop accusing this bouncer as a 'killer' , a racist and wising him life imprisonment. No one knows the details of this story, so leave the judgement to those who have a right to do it. Thinking about it, being in a club , and being pestered by some drunk, or having some one trying to pick a fight with you, wouldn't you call the bouncer to throw him out? I know I have

p agius

Jun 11th 2009, 15:43

@rebecca filletti....


You cannot link this directly to racism.... Even whites get similar treatment by bouncers.....I beleive that this was a barbaric act but far from a deliberate attack to put a black person's life in peril........If that is the case the bouncer is double crazy to do something like that in public...... And guys this case is no easy to solve as there is an unknown third party who apparanetly kicked mr suleiman....Under our law, an accused has to be found guily beyond any reasonable doubt......

Kenneth Zammit Tabona

Jun 11th 2009, 15:26

How courageous to kick a man when he's down! The 'unkown person' who kicked Abubaker should receive the Pope John XXIII prize for kindness. May such a terrible act will weigh on his concience for next seven generations. I am utterly disgusted.

james muscat

Jun 11th 2009, 14:42

am i the only person to never have been refused entry to a club because of drunkenness? i mean...people (including myself) walk into bars drunk all the time, get loud and rowdy, act stupid etc etc...it's clubbing not afternoon tea...and most of the time bouncers just chuckle at us ( i actually nver had any trouble with bouncers)...in all my clubbing years i've only seen maltese people kicked out if they got violent, and there was no mention of this man being violent.

as for steven camilleri's unoriginal and often quoted statement "if they like they can take immigrants to their houses and let them sleep and live over there with there loved ones"...that's like saying anybody who complains about the roads should go out and fix them themselves...

Lara Vassallo

Jun 11th 2009, 14:40

@Joe fenech "Why are illegal immigrants going to Paceville? We know they are creating trouble everywhere"..are you serious man?....for your information the illegal immigrants are the ones still kept in detention camps "like birds in cages"..those granted asylum are free to be anywhere they wish to be okay....and mind you not every coloured person you find in paceville is a refugee ok.....we've a lot of black persons living and working here legally, so we should be mindful with the way we generalize every coloured person we come across....we re in the 21st century and as such we the younger generations should be the ones to change the perceptions of our older generations as regards coloured people....thats what our religion preaches and our education has taught us even better....

Helen McAleer

Jun 11th 2009, 14:32

Doppia Faccia

Only a few months ago, everyone was boasting that Malta was the first to congraulate Obama in being the first black president.

Then its ok to kill a black person for being drunk and black, oh and an immigrant.

I think you have all forgotten that not very long ago loads of maltese were flocking to the UK, Australia, America and Canada to make a better life for themselves. Guess what they were still immigrants and even though maybe not illegal I bet they still took jobs, homes, benefits etc that really belonged to the host country.

Get a life and a conscience

Wayne Hewitt

Jun 11th 2009, 14:20

While all violence is condemnable, it is interesting to note that Graffiti never release statements condemning violence and rape committed by illegal immigrants towards the Maltese.

True, racism and xenophobia is rampant in Malta but against the Maltese!

If the government wants to solve the problem of racism and xenophobia, then the government needs to solve the problem of illegal immigration once and for all. Malta and the Maltese never had any problems assimilating small controlled numbers of LEGAL immigrants, irrespective of their skin colour.

Chris Borg

Jun 11th 2009, 13:51

May he rest in peace.

God knows how many people get punched in pv and they are not black.

This guy had a fractured skull. Obviously this was not directly caused by a punch.

I am not trying to defend the bouncer, his job is to avoid trouble on the premises and not to cause it, but to go so far as to say this man was intentionally killed because he was black is extreme. Typical of grafitti.

How many people got a punch in pv?

ms g hoare

Jun 11th 2009, 13:46

It was and it is a shame for a young man to loose his life like this
@ Kenneth cassar well as us Maltese are more educated then a third country people we know not to stick a sign saying (No blacks allowed ) not even as a dare ,but you can go to a anywere in the world night club that is owned by blacks as soon as you walk in they all stare at you if they dont like you they would ask you to leave, next day go in with a black guy and you are in like a shot although all the staring that goes on makes you feel so uncomfortable that you walk anyway. Racism happenes everywhere in the world . some people like to take over other peoples country / town in Gravesend / Birmingham UK it is run by the hindu and Sishk , part of Glouschester / Hackney is run by Blacks and you cannot walk thier streets ,and i think MALTA is gonna end up just the same if we dont watch out.alot of these immigrants belive they have gods right to go and do what they like .

Rebecca Filletti

Jun 11th 2009, 13:39

And in response to Ernest Vella that it is the fault of international politics that the Maltese are becoming racist?!~ true the EU could help to a degree, but there is never any excuse for becoming racist and bigotted.

These individuals have fled lives of horror and tragedy, there is no reason to take out your anger at international politics on them. If you are angered by politics, do something about that.

Maltese people take from the EU but are not willing to put up with anything that means that they have to actually do something proactive.

Malta needs immigrant workers. It needs their input into society. Employment rates within the Maltese population, furthermore have not decreased since asylum seekers started arriving on Malta's shores.

Do not shout out generic complaints about politics, economics, society or culture, hiding a darker deeper racism within the community.

Malta as a European Catholic humanitarian country should be grateful that it has been given the opportunity to help these individuals. Malta can grow and Malta can learn from these people.

Fair enough fight for political change. It will help not only the Maltese, but the asylum seekers- But NEVER EVER make excuses for racism.

Joe Xuereb

Jun 11th 2009, 13:33

cont./ I don't do anecdotes. They are emotive and pointless. But for your delectation......
I was leaving a supermarket a few days ago. Suddenly, a strong, normal height bouncer rushed past me pushing two large guys in front of him. The were filthy, bloodied from previous falls, drunk. The were not white, down-and-outs.. They had not business in the shop. They were unceremoniously ejected. Outside, they lay on the ground, one's blood flowing AGAIN. The usual ani-social, anti-authority, anit-everything jobs gathered. Including Somalis, scarved a` la Arafat, and so on. One brazen young stud - very arrogant - said the bouncer should not have injured the man. I said the bouncer is doing his job, he has a family and kids. He pays taxed for my pension and your studies (he was young, the Somali).
He said: 'Are you saying the rich can beat up the poor?' What does one say to that? The police came and I offered my version of the incident. The officer was grateful, took my details and said he would not bother with the youngster (well, young disaffected men with an agenda). Last Saturday I facilitated the arrest of illegal pavement trick gambling.

Rebecca Filletti

Jun 11th 2009, 13:26

This man, Suleiman Abubaker, was a refugee from the Sudan who had fled persecution in his own country. He came to Malta lonely and scared seeking protection. He was granted it.

Last year he was beaten up by the police because of the colour of his skin and prejudices about his status in Malta.

This year he was killed because of the colour of his skin and prejudices and bigotries inherent in Maltese society.

He fled from one persecution to another. Ironic that he was eventually killed in Malta; a 'safe' country in Europe.

Maltese people should be ashamed of the hate that was shown towards Suleiman.

In your comments you have repeatedly said that you are not racist as you personally would not act like that. However, apathy fuels racism. Everytime you hear or see prejudice and dont immediately act, you are contributing.

Things in Malta need to change.
Do not let Suleiman's death be in vain.
Do not let the bouncer who killed him walk away with a charge of anything less that murder.
Let Suleiman's harrowing life and tragic death be the impetus for change.

Pray for Suleiman tonight, that he may finally find peace...

Emelia Caruana

Jun 11th 2009, 13:18

This is cold blooded killing racism sounds like it.....happens in AUSTRALIA all the time BOUNCERS killing people black or white ,has bouncing thuggery become a legal act for us Human beings on this earth. Alcohol the God of many huge problem the legal drug. RACISM is not Spiritual the world has become one Huge Refugee Crisis, War everywhere . these people would not be here if WAR was not in there country ......I have talked with them and shared my Love and Compassion like I do with everyone I meet Try it its a Human thing to do. Love and Light . open your hearts and your minds VIOLENCE is not good for the soul . bad KARMA for the bouncer

Joe Xuereb

Jun 11th 2009, 13:10

Staying sober ensures absence from wrong place/wrong time. Period.'
A.M.Bonello. Bouncers are there to protect decent citizens like yourself. A wimp does not make a good soldier. Likewise, a bouncer. A bouncer deters. He is not there to bounce you on his knees and play banni bannozzi (clappy happy) - I'll be lucky! He is a bouncer because he bounces people off. Hopefully with no damage. But people get drunk. People get aggressive. It is our responsibility to stay sober. The colour of the skin has nothing to do with it. Well, sometimes it does. As I said, that is the way the cookie crumbles.
Marthese Mussett. Are you real? cont./

FRANK MERCIECA

Jun 11th 2009, 12:54

@Alex Spiteri
"The far right success". What a joke they are. The far right did not manage 5000 votes between them. They are irrelevant in todays world.

Steven Camilleri

Jun 11th 2009, 12:42

Well Mr Joe Fenech , speaking about multicultrulal towns in Englandistan,...........shall we speak about luton that was quite a surprise.......... Dominos? Piglet from winnie the pooh? were shall we start ? Come on , lets speak about it Mr Fenech , I want to be surprised

F.Bartolo Snr

Jun 11th 2009, 12:26

ms g.hoare@ i agree with you entirely some Maltese are also being abused, i know this for a fact i was one of these abused Maltese and experienced quite alot of abuse on a daily bases at my work place in the UK, there aren't much worst people in the world then the British for being a two faced nation. Many times i used to get daft remarks. Another country that comes to mind when i was working in Australia in 70's, boy thats another racist country if there ever was one,i used to be called on many occasions a Wog! and such rude words, but i must admit it wasen't as bad as Britian, now this is a country that i swore i would never ever go there again.My favourites slogan is: There is no place like Home. and thank God i am now happily retire back in my own country of birth., but having to bow down to the Brits. never ever again. VIVA MALTA U L'MALTIN F.Bartolo Snr. Proud to be Maltese.

J Theuma

Jun 11th 2009, 12:22

@ R Azzopardi
Tks. A point I forgot to mention. Not all of them are violent. Some do their job without punches thrown.

edward bartolo

Jun 11th 2009, 12:21

Apparently, bouncers cannot understand that their physical strength exceeds the norms by several times. A blow from a bouncer is like being violently hit with a hard object.

R. Azzopardi

Jun 11th 2009, 11:42

@J Theuma

I couldn't agree with you more my friend. Many bouncer (I cannot use the word "all") seem to to be a bunch of barbarians who like nothing more than a good punch-up whilst getting paid to do so. I could almost go as far as to call them bloodthirsty. A bouncer's job is to protect the welfare of the premises and the people inside it. Resorting to violence is not necessary at all. Asking a person to leave and/or physically removing a trouble maker from the premises is acceptable. I would even accept a foreful shove if need be but beating someone up is definitely off limits. Yet, group punch-ups by bouncers are still common place.

Steven Camilleri

Jun 11th 2009, 11:20

Brisco, the maltese were immigrant as well , can you be so kind and tell us what are you refering to ??? 2009 of course, if your so happy with immigrants around you i and many maltese are not, I tought these people were poor people............ graffitti ,if they like they can take immigrants to their houses and let them sleep and live over there with there loved ones....

J Theuma

Jun 11th 2009, 10:55

I don't agree with most of you but illegal immigration has nothing to do with this case. No one deserves to be beaten to death just for fun.

the "bouncer culture" has been out of control a long time ago. These thugs (bouncers) bully everyone not just black people. Believe me I have been bullied once by a bouncer in a club at pv. Years ago a friend of mine was beaten senseless by these thugs. They have also beaten two swedish women and pushed one down the stairs. It was on the news a couple of years ago. The cases are countless. And this has to stop. NOW!!!! Before more tragedies. Hope this thug gets what he deserves.

R. Azzopardi

Jun 11th 2009, 08:05

I will never agree with bouncers beating patrons up, no matter what they have done. I do believe however with the management's right to refuse entry to anybody without giving an explanation.

My family owned a busy bar in a touristic hot spot for a number of years until quite recently. Certain people (yes, blacks and arabs included) were not welcome. Why? Because more often than not, they were nuisances and bothered other well-behaved clients. We would ask them to present a student card and when they did not, we asked them to leave, on account that the bar was for students only. In most cases, they co-operated and left quietly. We never resorted to physical force. American servicemen too were not welcome (irrispective of their race or colour). They were too loud, too boisterous and bothered our patrons. Why should the owner of a place of entertainment have to put up with such behaviour? Maltese and other european people were asked to leave on frequent occations too and I can assure you that I did not deal with them in a very polite manner. "Get off my property" was the only phrase used.

Kenneth Cassar

Jun 11th 2009, 07:33

@ Micheal Borg:

"There are clubs which do not allow access to people wearing shorts or sleeveless in Paceville. What do you call that then? Discrimination too?".

No, that would not be discrimination because everyone can wear trousers and shirts with sleeves. But few people apart from Michael Jackson can change the colour of their skin.

"As someone pointed out, the owner has every right to choose his customers, like I have every right to choose the guests in my home!".

A licensed entertainment business is not a home. A licensed entertainment business is entitled to "set standards" provided this is done legally. Disallowing customers simply because of the colour of their skin is racist, and so it is illegal. Disallowing customers because they are drunk is reasonable and legal, provided that the customer is sent away legally (that is, using the least force necessary).

The "someone" who pointed out that the owner has every right to choose his customers has no idea. Owners are regulated by the industry regulations and the laws of the country.

If some wise guy thinks I am speaking nonsense, I challenge him to place a "no blacks" sign and see where that takes him.

Ernest Vella

Jun 11th 2009, 07:20

what is happening is all fault because the International Poltics left us alone in this situation....its fault of the UNHCR and of Europe that we are becoming racist....for they are not doing anything to help us.....shame on us....shame on them....we shall be more strong against Europe and UN and let them not take out of us our values....we are still in time to solve this shame

Were is Europe now? And Exremists must be abolished from our politics.

v mercieca

Jun 11th 2009, 07:04

I believe that bouncers are normally trained in martial arts or some other kind of “SELF DEFENCE” combat.
I stressed the words “self defence”, as this is what it is supposed to be. How can an ordinary man have a sporting chance to defend himself against aggressors who are trained for combat?
Morally, I do not believe that the victim was kicked by an unknown person. Security cameras in the area might prove me correct.
In my humble opinion, such behaviour should be punished severely by our courts and the owners of the premises who employed the bouncer should be held as accomplice. They were the ones who employed the bouncer without perhaps going through his view of life.
If I remember my childhood classes (I did attend a couple of months for martial arts lessons many many years ago) there were simple rules (i) if you can hurt - do not injure (ii) if you can injure – do not maim (iii) if you can maim – do not kill.

Edric Micallef Figallo

Jun 11th 2009, 02:20

This is a tragedy, and responsibilities should be ascertained and the law applied as it should be. That being said, political use of this tragedy is inappropriate. Those using this episode for political mileage for their agenda should be ashamed of themselves. What is next after this by certain people with an agenda? Shall we blame government policies such as the detention policy, approval of the Italian policy of "respingimento" of illegal immigrants intercepted in international waters, the repatriation of illegal immigrants et cetera?

And for all those that moan and groan against generalisations, it would be appropriate to avoid generalising against all bouncers in Paceville. Bouncers who do their job accordingly should be thanked. I was once harassed by a drunken Arab in a nightclub, who had hit me twice in the chest, probably in order to start a fight. Thankfully I've got a strong constitution and wasn't hurt. Rather than give in to his provocation, I informed the bouncers and they took care about throwing the aggressor out. A bar brawl can make you end up either dead or a murderer, with life or liberty at stake, without those bouncers it could have been my case. Thanks.

Chris Mifsud

Jun 11th 2009, 00:29

It is not murder .. So lets be clear .

Also , we do not know the merits of the case . Some people keep insisting , despite them being drunk , to enter clubs and establishments .

The victim might have been no angel and so to speak , was asking to be forcibly removed from the club . The job of the bouncer is to keep the club safe .

The bouncer did not murder anybody . So comments like "he should get life" etc.. are stupid .

Jeff Honeywell

Jun 11th 2009, 00:02

I have read all these comment below and lets stop beating around the bush as they say down under, quote:- MALTA IS A RACIST COUNTRY: and don't tell us any different, be honest admit it guys.of course some say so is Australia. Yes true i admit it nothing to boost about either., however its the uncote minorities that give Malta a bad name and unfortunately a lot of ex-pats suffer because of the bad image these people are reflecting to the rest of the world. no ifs and buts, End of Story. G'day. from Aus.

Joe Fenech

Jun 11th 2009, 00:01

Any form of violence is to be condemned and never condoned. However, these are things that happen and will happen even more when people feel invaded: it's unfortunate, but it's a sad reality.

Why are illegal immigrants going to Paceville? We know they are creating trouble everywhere. We know many feel untouchable because some NGOs and personalities are defending everything they do.

Why are we allowing this invasion and this behaviour? Do things have to end up in tragedy for the government to realise how bad things are and how far worse they will get?


Micheal Borg:

Spot on!

Steven Camilleri :

Before you criticise English towns, go and live in one of them (the multiracial ones) then talk... You might change your mind very quickly!

E. Sciberras

Jun 10th 2009, 23:27

This guy should be thrown behind the bars, maybe all of them will learn. The bouncers have done it a lot of time. Once I've seen a libyan been thrown all stairs, and another guy picked him up and took him away. I've seen 2 German guys, whom one of them been beaten up that he even couldn't help himself to get up from the floor. I've seen bouncers abusing these foreign students too, and try to show off too. But they will keep on doing it unless they'll get a lesson. Let's start from this hero, and may the other guy RIP.

ms g hoare

Jun 10th 2009, 22:04

@ mr stivala 1 you should speak for yourself
AHNA INSARA TAL-QOXRA BISS, L-aktar nies ippokriti fid-dinja
you cannot judge everybody as the same maybe you should said Some of us are

@ d darmanin , i have been to many clubs and drunk people or under the influence of drugs werent allowed in and im talking in uk and in Malta and i seen people been bounced out of the club and they were white , i think this is being judged as if it's a colour issue.

@chrissy galea , i hope to god you never become a judge ,and maybe if he stayed in sudan this wouldnt happen to him maybe we should call this , he was drunk in the wrong place in the wrong time not that i agree with what happened far from it .
@ everybody else
If some of the Maltese are becoming racesit do you blame them they are being used and abbused all the time , i beleive that anything that happenes that involve a cloured person they are going to make a n issue and say it is racist , IS GRAFFITI STERRING THINGS UP

Marthese Mussett

Jun 10th 2009, 21:42

i hope that all of you who inflict this racial hatred hang your heads in shame.yes,these immigrants are a burden to the govt. and i am one of the many taxpayers.but in no way should you kill anyone just cos of his skin colour.yes,this is a racial murder.heard too many stories about black people being beaten up and refused entry in clubs and on buses.whats more,scaring young children and teenage girls,that they rape they this and they that,yeah right.muggings and armed robbery and rape are not commited by maltese.and of course,us maltese only drink mineral water and you dont see a drunk maltese person in paceville.we are all saints.i hope that all you racist people sit and think for five minutes...if he was your son...in a foreign country....beaten up and killed cos he was drunk...may his soul rest in peace

Alex Spiteri

Jun 10th 2009, 21:17

graffitti argument is a total nonsense. they simply want to regroup after the 'far-right' success in the MEP and they are turning this incident into a racially motivated crime, which everything shows it isn't.

last year, a maltese Australian was killed in greece after a bouncer throw at him a few punches. was that a racially motivated crime? it's not the first causality in pv netiher, there were similar murders already.

using this incident, graffitti are risking to escalate the problem especially in a place like paceville, where a racial motivated incidents are expected to happen soon, due to the lethal cocktail of drugs, booze, women and the rest of it.

Joe Xuereb

Jun 10th 2009, 21:05

Words are cheap.
Nodding @ S. Scerri's comment. An immigrant, legal or not, anywhere, MUST ensure resources to offer host country to improve him/herself. Words are cheap.
If I drink drive and kill someone, if lucky I face charges and punishment. If unlucky, no Court reached. Because I died. My fault.
If I climb Everest, or race Formula 1, I hope for medals, champagne, leggy women (that's a laugh in my case), coverage, you name it. If I (1) slip, if I (2) crash, I come home in a box. Again, my fault.
If I have unprotected sex, get someone pregnant (another laugh) or get an infection that kills.
The first I'd pay maintenance. I don't deserve to die for a few seconds' worth of fun. I knew the dangers but I was drunk/drugged. I was stupid. I paid the highest price. My fault.
Nobody deserves to die by kicking or punching. But we have to take responsibility for our actions. We do something wrong, knowingly or nor, and mostly we get away with it. We're not caught. Often we are caught. And sometimes we are punished more than we deserve.
That is the way the cookie crumbles. cont./

bernard brisco

Jun 10th 2009, 20:44

This not a civilise act from Maltese bouncer, and its not only that bouncer its everywhere ,even in public places such bus’s …etc. we don’t judge people from there skins, we are in 2009 . people ,this is a sham for a recent member of UE people , and for a ‘’church and Christians ‘’ country , I think Maltese forget that they where immigrant as well … need to take some serious action against those acts

James Ferdinard

Jun 10th 2009, 20:44

Its a pity the people involved in this bad image incident for Malta is not in the US! whoever they are if found guilty as charged the penality would be certainly be a Death sentence by Lethal Injection. ................. Malta is too soft for such crimes. Disgusted foreigen Visitor. J.Ferdinard. USA

A Zammit

Jun 10th 2009, 20:41

This has nothing to do with racism. I have witnessed several times beatings by bouncers on Maltese ‘white’ citizens. Bouncers, especially those in Paceville clubs are always ready to get into a fight. They find pleasure in gathering in a group and cowardly beat people. To add insult they boost this fact and have a laugh.

Finally, I understand the fact that many Maltese and foreign people just visit a club to get drunk or to cause trouble. However, this does not and should never justify the assault of the bouncer. Bouncers should be professional, licensed and trained to face such situations.

A.Micallef

Jun 10th 2009, 18:56

Name and shame the nightclub.

Enough is enough!

R. Balzan

Jun 10th 2009, 18:43

@Denis Catania: I fail to follow your logic. You assume that because the killing of the maltese in greece is not racially motivated (are you sure?) then the one in Paceville cannot be? Just because bouncers can be rough when handling people, then nothing they do can be a result of racial hatred or intolerance?

It is tragic that so many people keep denying that Malta is becoming increasingly racist and intolerant.

R. Balzan

Jun 10th 2009, 18:36

@Malcolm Seychell: I find it incredible that you can bother commenting on the relevance of Graffiti's statement, but at the same time you do not feel that you should at least condemn the killing of a person.

Manuel Scicluna

Jun 10th 2009, 18:18

Do those bouncers 'In downtown Paceville' have a license to kill? or punching and throwing out people from the pubs and pretend that they are in line with the justice? I'm sure that this is not a racist matter. We all know that we've heard a lot of similar cases 'In downtown Paceville.' Those are purely BULLYING cases and pubs owners are responsible for paying such people to do such atrocities from their premises. I doubtfully those so called bouncers apply for a police criminal conduct before they are employed.

Franco Farrugia

Jun 10th 2009, 18:15

What is more worrying is that some bouncers are actually members of the Police Corps.

adrian aquilina

Jun 10th 2009, 18:14

nothing justifies this..lets see some charges for murder..part of our society that is ignorant and racist..the funny thing being the maltese bloodline is north african, not european.
small country with some people having a small mentality..

Emile Cassar

Jun 10th 2009, 18:08

I am not only shocked by the death - I am shocked by the fact that black people are not allowed into clubs.

We have heard many testimonies now, and I have also seen it with my own eyes - it is true, MALTA'S BIGGEST ENTERTAINMENT SPOT SEPARATES BLACKS FROM WHITES.

It is humiliating - immigrants work on our building sites by day, and are kept away from us by night. We read about this all the time in the history books and we say it shocks us, and then it happens under our very noses and we close two eyes 'because our situation is special', we believe.

What are the police there for? Is there not a law against racial discrimination that they are supposed to be enforcing? Why even bother voting at elections if the laws our politicians make are only enforced if and when the police force likes them?

C Buttigieg

Jun 10th 2009, 17:33

While agreeing with all the comments here regarding this being a brutal crime and that the people involved should be locked up for good, however, I do not take kindly to people generalising that 'Malta' has turned into this and turned into that. I have never beaten up anyone, irrespective of their colour or religion. I also know for a fact that most of the Maltese, whether they like the immigrants or not would never hurt any of them and would help them if in need. We all talk big about doing this and doing that but when it comes to the crunch the Maltese are kind hearted and generous. So please, just because some animal decided to murder one of these people, it does not reflect on all the Maltese nation. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but noone is entitled to hurt another human being.

Anne Marie Bonello

Jun 10th 2009, 17:23

@ A.Farrugia
bouncers dont call other bouncers to restrain some1 but to beat them up. i have never seen a bouncer 'just' restrain some1, although with all the muscles they show off they surely have the strength to. they always resort to violence.

in their opinion if some1 raises a fist to them then they can do what they want with the excuse that its self defence. and when faced with that decision, the first thing they do is resort to violence not restraint

Chris Micallef

Jun 10th 2009, 17:15

This is disgusting and disgraceful. What makes it worse is that this was not the first incident in which bouncers were involved. What have the local authorities done through out the years to solve this problem?

Tony Stivala

Jun 10th 2009, 17:04

It is in the interest of the authorities and the bar owners that Paceville should have a CCTV every 20 meters. As it is, one of the culprits is a gorilla and the kicker is loose.
With proper CCTV installed they could trace him and see exactly what happened

Some bloggers mentioned catholic Malta
AHNA INSARA TAL-QOXRA BISS, L-aktar nies ippokriti fid-dinja

Joe Xuereb

Jun 10th 2009, 16:48

cont./ Saying the Maltese are/are becoming racists is non-sensical and emotive. It serves no purpose. No doubt some Maltese are racists. It is an unpleasant human trait that needs addressing. Also because it exists everywhere and always has done. What is most certain is that many Maltese people are angry and react , sometimes with ignorance, towards the perceived, or quite often, the wilfully ignorant. To get drunk is not a big crime. To want to enter premises in a sober state but ininvited is foolhardy. To want to do so in an inebriated state is foolhardy for other reasons. Because, you can never know how the cookie (biscuit) is going to crumble. Sometimes it crumbles so much it is not worth retrieving. So you reach for a fresh one. Unfortunately, the shattered cookie was the last one in the tin box.
Nobody deserves to die before their time. But cookies are fragile.

David Darmanin

Jun 10th 2009, 16:39

@ malcolm seychell, who said: "Drunk people are never allowed into clubs, being either white or black so the statement issued by graffitti, is useless."

Malcolm, sorry, what are you on about? Have you never entered a pv club drunk? Well, I have, as have many other white people who were never beaten up for it.

As a representative of the political class I think you should have the social responsibility to condemn the act outright! You will have another million opportunities to criticise Graffitti, but this time I think you should choose your words carefully. With all its good intentions, the anti-immigration lobby (of which you form an integral part) may easily be blamed for sowing the seeds of racism.

Claude Bajada

Jun 10th 2009, 16:35

Truly shocking and very sad

Jeremy J Camilleri

Jun 10th 2009, 16:29

Chrissey Galea...Kindly give us proof that the murder was colour related?

Alexander Morana

Jun 10th 2009, 16:13

Scerri S…….. looks like you already have passed judgment on the person/s accused of the crime and by also expressing that you are a better educated person for being able to distinguish between those educated and less educated racists.
Who is the racist here?

A. Vassallo

Jun 10th 2009, 16:12

@ m azzopardi

I don't agree with you when you say that since a nightclub is privately owned, so the owner/manigment can introduce certain door policies. These policies may well be "NO BLACK COLOURED PEOPLE" which is outrageous and discriminating.

You may as well decide who enters your house but, if I am not mistaken, nobody can stop me entering a club/bar/restaurant/hotel ect. if I am a law abiding person. Being BLACK is not a crime. Being a DRUNKEN BLACK is not a crime as well. A drunken person should be handled differently not as this guy was handled.

May Suleiman Abubaker rest in peace.

Denis Catania

Jun 10th 2009, 16:12

A few days ago a Black bouncer was found guilty of murdering a white woman in New york. No one called is racism. I doubt this illegal immigrant was killed because he was black. Bouncers are known to assault people, no matter what color the person is. If the illegal immigrant was drunk and rowdy the police should have been called. But don't call this racism, unless we are 100% sure it's racism.

Joanne Micallef

Jun 10th 2009, 16:12

The autopsy will shed light on what caused the death of this person, what is very clear though is that no bouncer should use violence to escort a person out of a club, let alone just to refuse entry. if the bouncer was a professional he could have easily restrained the drunken migrant, as one can use force and be firm without behaving in such a barbaric manner.
And for those who want to turn this into a racist event, please note that plenty of Europeans and Americans get the same treatment when they’re being a nuisance in a club. It’s a question of lack of professionalism more than a question of race.

jcmicallef

Jun 10th 2009, 16:10

I condemn violence of any type against any living person or animal.

Quoting: "After he was helped up he stumbled and hung on to a signpost, only to be kicked by an unknown person." With some dismay I remark....would this 'kick' by an 'unknown person' prove to be what killed this young man, with obvious consequences in court?

Bouncers are there to keep the calm and control, and not hurt ppl. We need to have these regulated, trained, licenced and made repsonsible for their actions.

But for decades, our politicians made sure that they were surrounded by 'bouncers' themselves, so who's going to set the example?

Chrissey Galea

Jun 10th 2009, 16:03

This is disgusting, someone said the bouncer should use his BRAINS before his fist, ever stopped to wonder do these bouncers have a BRAIN. These immigrants are in Malta NOT by their own choice, they want Italy, France and then ENGLAND.
I appreaciate they are a burden on the Maltese Goverment............so Goverment do something about it. To kill someone because of the colour of their skin is outrageous. Murder is Murder irrespective of the colour of the skin. I hope who ever done this gets sent to the Sudan to serve his sentence.......Then the tears would flow

God rest the sole of this immigrant.

Corinne Vella

Jun 10th 2009, 16:02

C Zarb: That claim of assault was dubious. The man was beaten, handcuffed and dumped into a van in front of several witnesses who themselves were harassed as a result. That said, how does a claim of assault justify or mitigate what has happened now?

Ray Zammit

Jun 10th 2009, 16:02

Hope that d hole truth will emerge & whoever found reponsible 4 such a crime will b charged.I have been working in uk 4 d past years as a door/supervisor & in response teams and lately as a cctv operator.To optain these qualifications had to attend and do a written exams & prior to all of this you will be screened & monitored on your future behaviour.I don't regret d money i spend to get the UK licence & proud to say that always maintianed d balance in every situation.I would like to add that d so called bouncer is liable & fully accountable for his action.What i cannot understand is that a UK Sia Licence is not recognisable with the local Authority.

Kenneth Cassar

Jun 10th 2009, 15:57

@ Malcolm Seychell:

Graffitti's point was not that he was not allowed to enter drunk, but that he was beaten up and killed.

Kenneth Cassar

Jun 10th 2009, 15:53

@ C.ZARB:

"Stating that isn't this guy the same Suleiman Abubaker who was accused of assaulting the police some time ago?".

Could be. On the otherhand, it could equally be the same Suleiman Abubaker whom several eyewitnesses said was beaten by police officers while he was handcuffed.

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080706/local/immigrant-insists-he-did-not-assault-the-police

Don't you think your comment about a murdered person is a little out of order?

Paul Borg

Jun 10th 2009, 15:49

Nothing can justify a murder!!

Micheal Borg

Jun 10th 2009, 15:44

I do agree that violence may never be justified, however, I do suggest anyone to be careful when writing comments and accusing us Maltese as racist.

First, I do not think this is a racist incident. Actually, this is a typical Reverse Racism case! Anyone who attends Paceville regularly, or used to attend paceville, must know that beating from bouncers on people is a common sight to see, IRRELEVANT of their skin colour. I myself have witnessed ugly fights outside clubs, and the victims were mostly maltese. Did moviment Graffiti speak out for them? The same incident, unfortunately happened in Greece when a bouncer killed an Australian-Maltese. Was he accused of racism?
In these cases, both the bouncer and the victim were unlucky.

Secondly, let's be mature here. There are clubs which do not allow access to people wearing shorts or sleeveless in Paceville. What do you call that then? Discrimination too?

As someone pointed out, the owner has every right to choose his customers, like I have every right to choose the guests in my home!

Raymond Sammut

Jun 10th 2009, 15:41

@ Phil Press

It has been reported by The Times that the bouncer in question has been identified by the police, and is due to re-appear in court. It appears that the person who allegedly kicked the victim has not been identified. No-one is blaming anyone or drawing conclusions. The case is under investigation by the police. The main argument here is that a situation can be prevented if the so-called "bouncers" are properly trained and taught not to resort to violence.

agius p

Jun 10th 2009, 15:39

@michael seycehll

Just for the record christians were not a targeted group by hitler....Having said that most of the political prisioners (besides jews) were christians (but that is a coincedence)...

Hitler's excuse to target jews was that they were communists.....Interesting to note that jews fought alongside the germans during the first world war.......

A.Farrugia

Jun 10th 2009, 15:36

@ Darren Barry
I a Maltese white national have been refused entry in clubs here in Malta a couple of times. Anyone remember a certain Ernest at the door of a well known (then) disco in paceville ? He used to pick on me big time. Don't know why - maybe to be him I had the looks of a killer or something. Believe me, I am as docile as kitten. However I never tried to fight my way in as you claim your friends from the states were going to do. I always bowed my head, said a couple of lewd words (in my heart against this man) and left in peace. Had I not done so, trouble would have surely followed.

This case was different. The migrant was drunk and cetainly in no way to reason things out, thus it was up to the bouncer to restrain himself rather than put the migrant's life in peril. If anything the bouncer should have called other bouncers to restrain the man and call the police.

mario mifsud

Jun 10th 2009, 15:36

Is this situation due to the ever increasing problem of illegal immigrants? Or due to the inaction by the EU?

A.Tabone

Jun 10th 2009, 15:34

Can you all please realize that this so called 'racism' is happening because of the people responsible of letting the growth of the problem of illegal immigration? Everyone is getting angry at these illegal immigrants not because they are black but because they are invading our country and slowly corroding our wealth.

Obviously I condemn this incident and I hope the bouncer get what he deserves not some silly suspended sentence like usual. But please..... stop saying because he is black. Maybe because he is a migrant ... not because he is black.

Andrew Gatt

Jun 10th 2009, 15:34

The "bouncer culture" in Paceville seems totally out of control. They are repeatedly in the news for all the wrong reasons and I am sure that for each reported incident, many others do not make the headlines. This "tough guy" attitude needs to be controlled and regulated urgently. At the moment, they seem to be no more than thugs.

Joseph Grech Attard

Jun 10th 2009, 15:31

Racism is rampant in Malta, as we have been many times told by many. And not just black/dark skinned. Just mention the word "Arab" or "Moslem." Hear the reaction even from workers and their families whose bread is earned from such countries. It brings to mind the day when the Libyan Ambassador's young son was stabbed to death. No fuss at all. Just a matter-of-fact for most of us. And to think that we used to think it was unfair being treated like that in foreign countries, especially in the UK, not so long ago! Money makes one rich but alone it does not educate.

joseph galea

Jun 10th 2009, 15:29

If it is 'Klandestin' or not, this is MURDER.
Let us not pin other titles to it.
The accused does not deserve more or less beacuase of the victim profile.
While, if found guilty, the perpatrator should get what he deserves, we must also not weight the crime with racism and, on the other hand, try to influence judge and jury, or try to appease or please the man in the street.
Justice must be blindfolded.
joe the plumber

Raymond Sammut

Jun 10th 2009, 15:22

@ Scerri S

Many of us objected strongly following the tragedy of Doujon Zammit on Mykonos. It is extremely tragic that the Maltese authorities had done absolutely nothing since then to prevent a similar incident from occurring right under their very eyes in notorious Paceville. This is absolutely appalling, distressing and shameful.

John Betts

Jun 10th 2009, 15:06

"As sad as this is, I bet half the population would like to see the accused bouncer to be set loose in the Hal-Far detention center.
Or guard Malta's borders, giving immigrants a "special welcome"."

I am sorry, but I have to say I am horrified to see this sort of rubbish published.

Graham Crocker

Jun 10th 2009, 15:04

G.Debono, "only to be kicked by an unknown person." Maybe its the way Maltese people say hello they kick people.

Reuben Micallef

Jun 10th 2009, 15:00

So the Machos are at it again eh.......the law should go down hard on these individuals who think they are above the law.Incidents are bound to be common when large crowds and alcohol are present but this is too much,theMachos are the exception not the rule,some of the bouncers are gentlemen doing their duty(this as not to put all the bunch under one label).
Maybe its time that clubs are made to hire proper policemen in plain and in uniform for the security of their clubs,this could curb abuse of the non smoking ban,after going in most clubs you still end up mistaken for an ashtray,what about the amount of sardines erm i meant people in a club?Are clubs abiding to the capacity limit of their premises.Controlling the amount of people would surely help to avoid incidents or God fobid a tragedy ex a fire breaks out.
@G Debono
I do agree with you that we have witnessed these incidents on different people from different nations even fellow Maltese,but I also witnessed bouncers going harder on an individual just because he is black.As you said these actions must be condemned full stop irrespective of nationality ,race,colour or beliefs.
I

Denis Catania

Jun 10th 2009, 14:56

Let's not make this a black and white issue. Was the Maltese gentleman who got killed in Greece Black?? NO. Bouncers all over the world are known to abuse their power. Blacks are not immune from such incidents. You mean no Maltese has been beaten in Paceville by bouncers. This is a tragedy, but don't make it a racial incident.

@M Formosa: How many blacks have been hung in Malta?? Is this what you are referring to, when mentioning the Southern States in the 60's. Please get a life. Did you know that Whites were hung in the southern states in the 60's too. Vigilantism was used in the Southern States back in the 60's and it wasn't just against Blacks. The Black hanging got more news coverage.

Michael Seychell

Jun 10th 2009, 14:51

It is evident that we are reaping the fruit of the seeds called 'racism against (black/dark) migrants' we have sown.
Such hatred will increase when extreme right persons are given our support and encourage rthem to form a Political Party.

We must all keep in mind Hitler's Party in Germany - The first victims of hatred under Hitler were the Jews, than Christians; than the Trade Unions and finally it was anyone who dared to critisise the German Socialist (a huge misnomer ) Party better known as the Nazis.

Let us not permit history to repeat itself in our country.

May the Lord have mercy on the soul of this immigrant, and may this be the lasrt such case to occur in our country.

Scerri S

Jun 10th 2009, 14:41

Let's see now if this crime is given at least as much attention as the case of the Maltese-Australian who lost his life in similar cirumstances while holidaying on another mediterranean island. This should be the case if the maltese media values each life equally. More so since this crime took place in the country.
Furthermore, this incident stinks of racism. I am currently not living in the country, and every time I visit I am well and truly shocked. Not with the amount of 'klandestini' - there are equal amounts of immigrants (legal and illegal) seeking a better life in all other developed countries; but with the racist attitudes and comments which seem to have taken over a large portion of the population. Illegal immigration might be a huge problem. But the xenophobia and racism plaguing the islands is far worse, especially since it is more permanent then the migrants (who do their utmost to try and leave the islands). Nisthi meta niltaqa' ma xi Maltin barra minn Malta u jghaddu kummenti razzisti meta jaraw xi hadd ta kulur differenti. Sfortunatament, din tigri ta' spiss, u ma tinvolvix biss nies b'livelli baxxi ta edukazzjoni.

L Debono

Jun 10th 2009, 14:39

There is discrimination and brutality written all over this case. 1 - it is unlawful to discriminate and impede some one just because of colour race or religion. 2 - A bouncer’s job is to keep the piece and expel violent subjects out of the establishment. 3 - A bouncer have no special privilages to take matters in his own hands (a bouncer is not a law enforcement officer) and must call the police immediately upon an incident. 5 - A bouncer should only use REASONABLE force if his life is threatened ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In this alleged case the bouncer should have used his brain before he used his fists and either restrain the intruder until the police come or deny access and close the door. The use of brute force led to the death of a human being.

It is known that bouncers are trained in using force (that's why they are in the job they are) and they should know how much force to use and when to use it. That is their profession.

This is inexcusable and it doesn't matter if the victim was black, purple or orange, murder is murder.

m azzopardi

Jun 10th 2009, 14:33

i strictly condem violence on anybody (black,white etc). It's a pity that a person had to lose his life like that.
I dont agree with graffiti when they say the nightclubs are racists because they don't let black people in. I have seen Maltese people not being allowed in nightclubs.

A nightclub is privately owned, so the owner/managment can introduce certain door policies. I decide who enters my house and not the Graffiti Group

Matthew Agius

Jun 10th 2009, 14:32

Bouncers need to be regulated and trained by authorities. Bouncers should not be anyone who's big and has quick fists. Where's the responsibility in this?

How many more beatings and deaths until we learn?

Black or white - this attitude is disgusting.

Paul Vella

Jun 10th 2009, 14:32

Once again our lack of professionalism in most fields has been brought to our attention, pity it always has to be a so called tragic incident which makes us stand up and realise this.
The so called bouncers of which I am told, only a hand full are actually trained and licensed seem to take pleasure in beating up some helpless soul. Whether black or white is not the issue here so let us not go into the merits or de-merits of this. Could the authorities get off their butts and do something about these bouncers, some of which are actually police men working on their nights off whilst others take on this kind of job due to their build, physical strength and in some cases their cold bloodedness?

Edward Fenech

Jun 10th 2009, 14:31

Shame!

Phil Press

Jun 10th 2009, 14:28

You blame the "Bouncer" for this tragic death.But could it not have been, the "unknown person", who caused the fatal injury ?. Who "kicked him".

Anne Marie Bonello

Jun 10th 2009, 14:28

They can easily control situations by self defence, but they adore teaming up beating up any drunk defenceless person to a pulp, not only with foreigners or immigrants, they are just pigs. People should start filming them and making court cases against them so they all get locked up. The only requirement they have is probably being pumped up and muscly with the steroids they take, which is even worse coz steroids increase testosterone making them aggressive.

Marco Cremona

Jun 10th 2009, 14:26

One hopes that the bouncer in question will get the punishment he deserves on conviction, and that the sentence will serve as a deterrent to others who choose to mistreat illegal immigrants on the basis of their status/colour.

And what regulates the profession of a bouncer anyway? What training/education does one need to become a bouncer? Being a big bully is simply not good enough....and we're seeing the results.... as this is NOT an isolated case.

But as all things in Malta, the furore will soon die down and nothing changes..... because there simply isn't the political will to do anything.

malcolm seychell

Jun 10th 2009, 14:19

Drunk people are never allowed into clubs, being either white or black so the statement issued by graffitti, is useless.

Teresa Pace

Jun 10th 2009, 14:18

Yes indeed may this man rest in peace....it was no way to die...beaten to death. I hope the person responsible for his death will be brought to justice. I also hope that the other coward who kept kicking him, will be brought to justice as well. Are we in a jungle or what? Not even animals kill for the fun of it. They kill to eat. These killed just for the kicks of it...so I hope their conscience will not leave them at peace, especially the unknown guy, until he comes forward to face justice. In the jungle...Malta is a jungle...as no Christian values

Bryan Fiore

Jun 10th 2009, 14:17

As sad as this is, I bet half the population would like to see the accused bouncer to be set loose in the Hal-Far detention center.

Or guard Malta's borders, giving immigrants a "special welcome".

A. Vassallo

Jun 10th 2009, 14:14

I must join all bloggers in condemning without any reservation any kind of beatings coming from bouncers of nightclubs in Malta on any human being, which of course include, coloured tourists and migrants.

The beatings are outrageous and the culprit/s should be dealt with no sympathy. We must ensure ZERO TOLERANCE in such cases.

Besides a considerable amount of harm is done to our fragile tourism industry with these incidentsand the bouncers are threatening their own livelihood and that of many others workers in this industry..

Darren Mercieca

Jun 10th 2009, 14:14

Shocking news. This is pure racism, dozens of drunk people try to enter nightclubs and I'm sure they are not all knocked out and killed. The bouncer should also be charged with racisim, not just murder. Sickening, Malta needs to change it's mentality

Joss Galea

Jun 10th 2009, 14:13

@J Farrugia.
Billi l-vittma kien f'sakra ma jarax art, m'ghandux jigi maqtul!!

N Farrugia

Jun 10th 2009, 14:11

This was bound to happen some time or another...bouncers in pv treat people as if they are criminals. Sometimes, it is true, there are people who are drunk and that do not behave well. However, there different ways to cope with these situations and surely the way the bouncers use the power is not the correct one.

Teresa Pace

Jun 10th 2009, 14:10

I am ashamed to say I'm maltese...Maltese who are big hearted...catholic. Why did this happen? Because of a coloured person?Because of a migrant?So what the migrant is a person just like you and me...a person with a heart, who gets hurt emotionally when things are said against them,who dies when beaten.They are not objects.Malta should stand up for those groups which are anti migrants...they are putting poison into people's mouth...and look where it lead.If one stops to think a bit...do you think these migrants wanted to leave their home in the first place, to risk their lives to end up in a so called 'christian' malta.There is nothing christian the way we treat these people.If these migrants had it their way,if their native place was ok to live in,they wouldn't have left and risked their life in doing so.One question Malta...what would you do if you were in their shoes?Start living by the our christian principle and help them rather than mistreat them.Why a bus driver slammed on the accelarator not to stop on a bus stop for one of them.They are humans just like you and me...trat them as thus.Ashamed to be maltese

Steven Camilleri

Jun 10th 2009, 14:09

I see that you dear editor do take a big interest in graffitti ,you sure give these losers a good promotion.No my dear formosa, Malta is turning into a Birmingham. My heartfelt prayers to the immigrant .

Darren Barry

Jun 10th 2009, 14:06

I am an american based in malta for over four years now...about a month ago a few of my friends who re US marine cadets came over from the states, most of them re black Americans, having visited Malta before on working assignment decided to come for a short holiday on their own.....on one occasion during there stay we were in paceville for a drink and decided to hang out ata night club... to my surprise and that of my guest I was allowed to go through the security but my friends were for no good reason refused entry...and when i tried to enquire why they ve been denied entry I was simply told that the entrance is by membership.....a fight was gonna break out between my friends and the bouncer because they felt they actually stopped them because of their skin color.....if really the club's entry was by membership how come i was never asked to show my membership card and the rest of other people(white guys) allowed to go in....my friends were singled out simply because they were blacks and nothing else.....stories like these will only go on to promote a highly negative image for malta......

C.ZARB

Jun 10th 2009, 13:57

I condemn any type of violence. Stating that isn't this guy the same Suleiman Abubaker who was accused of assaulting the police some time ago?

http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080706/local/immigrant-insists-he-did-not-assault-the-police

@ Frank Mercieca.
Its ironic that you said that, expecially considering that these people are seeking refuge in 'backward Malta' and not viceversa.

vela V

Jun 10th 2009, 13:57

When a lad of Maltese origin was killed in Corfu we all raised hell against the bouncer, I had written that it was only a matter of time before the same thing happens in Malta. Now it has.Would the bouncer's employer have his establishment closed? We have seen a man walk free from court allready some years ago. Will this one walk as well? Justice is required. swifly

Mario Cucciardi

Jun 10th 2009, 13:50

And this is just only a tip of the iceberg. Forgive us my my friend. May you rest in peace.

Keith Davis

Jun 10th 2009, 13:50

We just hope that whoever caused this person's death is sentenced to life improsnment!

We demand a zero tolerance to racism and violance!

T. Pulis

Jun 10th 2009, 13:49

Basta ncapcpu meta naraw vara hierga! Minghajr ma niggudika imma r-religjon li niftharu li nhaddnu ma rridux nghixuha biss fil-knejjes - barra primarjament

G.Debono

Jun 10th 2009, 13:48

Disgusting attitude by Maltese bouncers. Something must be done as these are not one off's. Hope the culprit is sent to lifetime in prison otherwise the courts would be causing a stir with the general Maltese public - who are 99.5% against such barbaric and disgusting bullying.

One note- why does graffitti assume that this person in black ? His name, where he comes from ? Graffitti I have seen people of all sorts of colours get beaten up by bouncers. What are you trying to say ? That bouncers are not being fair and that they should now start beating up other people as well. You should have condemed the act full stop - irrelevent whether it was done against a black, white or yellow person.
This is tantamount to your group going at length to protest everytime an american warship enteres the grand harbour - but then when a russian or other eastern ones come - you simply stay put. Is that racisim ?

J Farrugia

Jun 10th 2009, 13:41

U zgur issa l-bouncer irid iwiegeb ta' qtil volontarju. hekk haqqu. Il-gustizzja trid issir. Alla volja il-vittma kien f'sakra ma jarax art.

G Vella

Jun 10th 2009, 13:41

Is there any law regulating the hiring and conduct of these thugs euphemistically referred to as bouncers?

J. Borg

Jun 10th 2009, 13:39

Are the bouncers licensed?
Do they undergo any specific training under the guidance of the authorities?
Is it a free for all, everyone can be engaged as a bouncer, nomatter what background one person has?
Are we going to wait for another beating......and worse still another death?

M Formosa

Jun 10th 2009, 13:36

Is Malta turning to a Southern US state in the 60's ? I for one don't agree with illegal migration but this is going too far, criminal, and I hope the people who did this, will spend the rest of their lives behind bars, and I am not talking about the bars in Paceville.

FRANK MERCIECA

Jun 10th 2009, 13:34

Again I am very ashamed to be Maltese when you hear about incidents like this. I,m afraid this country must be the most racist in Europe. I travel extensively, and nowhere are black people treated with such hatred and disgust as in "backword" Malta. MALTA move over to the 21st. century.

Joss Galea

Jun 10th 2009, 13:26

This is really shocking! Very sad! It's like the incident that happened in Greece to that Maltese-Australian guy who was on holiday. These abuses and violence from bouncers have to stop. May he rest in peace.

Nigel Lawrence

Jun 10th 2009, 13:19

So, now we assume the bouncer will face a manslaughter charge and not one of GBH?