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Poacher fired warning shot at bird guards - CABS

The German-based Committee Against Bird Slaughter (CABS) said today that a poacher fired a warning shot at chasing Bird Guards in an incident at Armier on Monday.

"At about 6.50 pm, as a flock of some 30 Marsh Harriers and Honey Buzzards flew into a night roost at Little Armier (L-Ahrax ta` Gewwa), fire was opened on the birds from several locations in the scrub and woodland. At least one Honey Buzzard was hit and fell to the ground. As the nearby CABS team searched for the wounded or dead bird, an armed young man almost walked into their arms, but took to his heels at the sight of the Bird Guards. As the team ran after him, calling on him to give himself up, the poacher fired a warning shot and disappeared between the trees," CABS said in a statement.

"In this instance, discretion was the better part of valour and the conservationists broke off the chase."

CABS press officer Axel Hirschfeld said two local police patrols arrived about an hour later and seized four freshly fired cartridges found at the scene. The officers also took a statement from the team leader including a detailed description of the culprit, and recorded an official complaint.

The committee said in its statement that in just two days, its teams in Malta had personally witnessed the shooting down of four birds of prey and located an illegal net site. They had also provided the police with evidence on which to base five arrests of poachers.

The committee said that since Saturday its activists had registered more than 220 shots - in almost every area of the island - despite the government ban on spring hunting.

"In view of the fact that our four teams can only monitor a small area of the island at any one time, we must assume that breaches of the law are widespread" said David Conlin, CABS operations officer.

CABS said that on Monday morning, on the high ground above the town of Salinas, one of its teams observed at least three persons shooting at harriers and falcons that had roosted there the previous night. At least one Hobby was hit and fell to the ground. Within half an hour of being alerted, and despite morning rush hour traffic, two ALE patrols arrived at the scene. At least one man is helping police with their enquiries.

At the same time, another CABS team deployed north of Marsaskala witnessed the shooting down of a Kestrel. The poacher was subsequently filmed picking up the dead bird, sticking it under his pullover, and taking it back to his hut. Again the police were on the scene quickly, identified the shooter, and retrieved the dead bird.

During this operation an active trapping site was discovered nearby and two nets were confiscated.

CABS said that despite the ban on spring hunting, some poachers obviously have little fear of being caught. An example of this was a man who was observed hunting in the company of a small child, not more than two years of age, in an area west of the Freeport, and who was filmed by a CABS team with shotgun in hand. The police are investigating.

Yesterday a CABS team also shadowed a flock of about a dozen Honey Buzzards that had roosted overnight west of Marsaskala. Shortly before the birds reached the open sea near Fort St. Leonardo, at least 20 shots were fired at the flock. Subsequently the CABS team observed through their spotting scope how a young man with a shotgun combed the area and picked up an unidentified bird, probably one of the Honey Buzzards. He then disappeared with the bird into a shooting hide. Despite an extensive search by two ALE patrols, neither the bird nor the poacher could be found. Police investigations are continuing.

"The extent of poaching causes us a great deal of concern" said CABS president Heinz Schwarze. "Even if these illegal acts are committed by only a small minority of hunters, the damage to nature is nevertheless of worrying proportions".

"Wherever shooting takes place, our teams observed the activation of a warning system of watchers equipped with mobile phones and walkie-talkies as soon as a conservationist or police presence was detected. This is very similar to methods used by organised criminal gangs" Mr Schwarze said.

He called for substantial reinforcement of the ALE, and the overdue creation of a dedicated wildlife crime unit, as is the case in many other European countries.

The four CABS teams will monitor bird migration over Malta and Gozo until next Sunday .

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Comments

Kenneth Cassar (on 4/5/09)
@ John Matthews:

Yes, John, you may call me Kenneth. Rest assured that you will not insult my "religious beliefs", since I have none (which is not to say I am not a moral person...I actually see myself as more moral than most believers - I include non-humans as individuals who deserve moral consideration...but that is another issue).

"Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you"...I don't see how this verse relates to this topic. You might wish to explain.

I'm glad you acknowledge that there is illegal "poaching" in Malta. This is what I have been talking about all along. Poachers may and may not be members of the FKNK, so I won't (I didn't) assume that they are.

I also agree that it serves everyone (except themselves) well for the illegal shooters to be caught and convicted. You will also appreciate that although I oppose all hunting (for moral reasons), I acknowledge that as long as the practice is legal, there is nothing I can do about it except perhaps try to convince hunters to stop (which is no mean feat, I know).

Thanks for understanding.
john Matthews (on 3/5/09)
@ Kenneth Cassar
May I call you Kenneth? as it appears that we are the only ones corresponding. I do not wish to insult you or your religious beliefs but try the following:-
Matthew Ch 7 Vs 7 or Luke Ch 11 Vs 9
When you have read these (should you so desire)
I HAVE lived in Malta for three years consecutively Paola,Lija and Marsascala, so once again I feel I have some indication as to what I am talking about.

Of course there is illegal "poaching" and I use the term loosely. What I suggest is that IF there is illegal shooting, MY ASSUMPTION is that it is carried out by criminals, possibly not connected with FKNK.

WE (both you and I) should try to have the illegal shooters caught and convicted whether we are pro or anti hunting. These people make a mockery of the law and, you must admit, gives any legal hunter a bad name.
Kenneth Cassar (on 3/5/09)
@ John Matthews:

I do admit I make assumptions. When a hear the sound of a tyre screech, I assume a speeding car has suddenly braked. We all make assumptions, and so do you. Tut tut.

Innocent until proven guilty only applies to specified (named) persons. Unknown persons cannot be falsely accused. This much should be obvious.

You still doubt that what Mr Vella heard were gun shots. You have every right to doubt.

Regarding someone trying a new gun, or clay pigeon shooting, in the first instance, that is highly unlikely. In the second, clay pigeon shooting is only allowed in designated areas (nowhere near Zabbar). Both would be illegal if they happened close to Zabbar, and both would be your own assumptions (see...you make them too), although both less likely than illegal hunting.

So this does not "prove" (your assumption, again) that I am a bigot, since, unlike you, I did not make any assumptions about any specified person. I only make assumptions about illegal hunting because illegal hunting does happen, and happens often enough to make the probability plausible.

As for jury service, again this has nothing to do with law courts.
John Matthews (on 3/5/09)
@ Kenneth Cassar

It now becomes MORE obvious that you do not have a clue about what you are talking.

You openenly admit that you have made an assumption. Tu t Tut Tut. Innocent until PROVED guily or dont you believe in justice?

If you understand ballistics you will find that gun reports sound different due to weather conditions. i.e When Mr Vella heard these so called gunshots, was the day sunny or overcast as when the day is sunny you get a more pronounce "crack". If was overcast you get a more pronounce "thump". Which I again say may be misinterpreted, even supposing they were gunshots at all.

Back to your assumption that the so called gunshots came from "illegal hunting" Has it never occured to you that POSSIBLY it may be someone out there trying out a new gun or clay pigeon shooting.

It proves to me that you are a bigotted person who, god forbid should never be allowed to sit on a jury

Don't judge a book by its cover
Kenneth Cassar (on 3/5/09)
@ John Matthews:

"The shots you heard could have come from one or many people for a variety of reasons Why do hunters always get the blame for any heard gunshots?".

Maybe its because this is Malta, not Northern Ireland.
Kenneth Cassar (on 3/5/09)
@ John Matthews:

By the way, regarding my comment to Mr Borg (who holds a firearms license), I do not need to refer my question to the police. As you correctly note (unlike Mr Borg), police are not permitted to give that information to just anyone...after all, there is a law on data protection.

Your comment in reply to my comment to Mr Borg has actually proven my point, which is that his question is both impertinent and overly pretentious. After all, what's good for the goose (names of hunters holding a firearms license) is good for the gander (anyone else legally holding the same license).

Thanks for proving my point. Have a nice day.
Kenneth Cassar (on 3/5/09)
@ John Matthews:

Cont...

Thanks for the information about your experiences of being a Bombardier in the UK. That, indeed, does entitle you to voice your opinion with regards to guns, firearms, and ballistics law (in the UK). What it does not entitle you to do, however, is to say that illegal hunting does not take place in Malta (despite the evidence to the contrary - you should follow the news...people being arraigned in court regularly on hunting offenses), particularly since you do not live here, and so can neither hear the shots, nor witness the illegal hunting. One thing I can tell you...when one hears and sees hunter gun pellets hitting your window (as I experienced when visiting a friend) one knows they are hunters' pellets.

It is true that anyone can misinterpret sounds, but repeated hunters' gun shots can hardly be misinterpreted, especially when one lives in an area where hunting (legal or otherwise) takes place.

Of course, I wouldn't like it if someone made unfounded allegations about me. However, no one is pointing fingers at anyone in particular (no names). All we are saying is that illegal hunting is still taking place. We know...we live here.
Kenneth Cassar (on 3/5/09)
@ John Matthews:

I can't see how a history lesson on Malta has to do with illegal hunting, so your comment is irrelevant. I also do not know what you mean by saying that I am "obviously in the same frame of mind of Victor Vella". If you mean that I believe that illegal hunting is still taking place, then you are correct.

I also agree with you that assumptions do not stand up in a court of law. But here we are not discussing the law courts. We are discussing hearing gunshots and assuming that they come from hunters, and not soldiers or bandits. If you want to believe they come from soldiers or bandits, suit yourself. I believe my assumption is more credible, since all alternatives are ridiculous.

I also don't see how being conversant with "firearms, ballistics or firearms laws has anything to do with this. All that is required for me to know is that no private citizen is allowed to shoot firearms in the streets or countryside, with the obvious exception of legal hunting. So I will decline your offer to give me lessons on ballistics, since it will serve no practical purpose.

Cont...
john Matthews (on 2/5/09)
@ Kenneth Cassar & others

I do not wish to bore you with firearms and ballistics, but, I am now ready to "blow my own trumpet"

I am the Bombardier for the Royal Borough of Windsor & Maidenhead. i.e I carry out gun salutes at Windsor Castle among other places. I am possibly the only person allowed to bring explosives into Windsor Castle. I carry out reloading seminars to gun clubs and also some factions of the UK police. I am retired from Her Majesty's Courts Service. That, I think, entitles me to voice my opinion with regards to guns, firearms, ballistics and law. The point I am trying to make is that ANYONE can misenterpret sounds, whether it be from close up or from afar. The main thing is, that PROOF NOT ASSUMPTIONS is the thing that counts. Search your heart, how would you like it if someone made assumptions with regards to you or yours. I wish you all the best
John Matthews
John Matthews (on 2/5/09)
@ Kenneth Cassar


It appears to me that you are not conversant with firearms , ballistics or firearms laws(by this I mean MALTESE firearms laws). Should you require some knowledge of any of these subjects, please do not hesitate to contact me and I will gladly make you aware of these subjects, whether you like them or not..

With your comment to Mr Borg,(who holds a firearms license) perhaps you should refer your question to the Maltese police, who, I am sure, are not permitted to give information with regard to this question.
John matthews (on 2/5/09)
@ Kenneth Cassar

No I do not live in Malta but I expect I can give you a history lesson on the subject of Malta, having married a Maltese girl some 45 years ago.
You are obviously in the same frame of mind of Victor Vella

ASSUMPTIONS NOT PROOF. ASSUMPTIONS DO NOT STAND UP IN A COURT OF LAW. GET THE PROOF

Your statement reads "probability" Probability is one thing PROOF supercedes it

Get to know the law. Maltese or otherwise
Kenneth Cassar (on 2/5/09)
@ M Borg:

And by the way, if you still insist on asking your original question (to Birdlife), you might consider asking the hunters' federation whether they are willing (or are legally permitted) to publish the names of all their members first. After all, all their members hold a licence to keep a firearm.

My suggestion: stop creating conspiracy theories or crazy suspicions. You may get cheers from fellow hunters, but it is not hunters whom you would need to convince.
Kenneth Cassar (on 2/5/09)
@ M Borg:

"...could you please make public the names of those members within your organisation who hold a licence with the Malta Police to keep a firearm??"

I'm not a Birdlife member, but your question (if you have to ask) is: can you please tell us whether any of your members hold a licence to keep a firearm? After all, it is neither certian, nor probable, that any of them does.
Farrugia A (on 2/5/09)
Hunters,
Resign yourselves to having these CABS people watching over you and reporting your illegal activities. I know you would like to be left alone in the fields, shooting at anything, doing illegal things etc.. but time's up now. Live with it. Your own actions have brought this onto you.

Hence my previous comment...I cannot see the difference between a hunter and a poacher, when at any one time, the hunter could be the poacher and the poacher could be the hunter. Hunters know that this is true, it is only a few lackeys here that will continue to cry fowl for being watched.
Will I ever complain for having wardens, policemen, speed cameras watching over me ? NO, never have done so and never will do - I obey the law, thus I could have 600 wardens coming from the 4 corners of earth watching over me - NO difference to me. I will not try to fometh "patriotic" comments with the other behind my back, crossing fingers, raising arguments that these are Germans and should not be here. Hahaha, I'd rather have a law abiding German here than any Maltese brute who persistantly breaks the law. And you?
M Borg (on 1/5/09)
i am curious about one thing, and have a question to ask to BLM:

could you please make public the names of those members within your organisation who hold a licence with the Malta Police to keep a firearm??
Kenneth Cassar (on 1/5/09)
@ John Matthews: Victor Vella's assumption is based on a high probability guess. Who else could the several gun shots have come from? It is nomal to assume that multiple shots are fired by hunters (unless, of course, one lives in Afghanistan or another war-torn country. Do you think that no illegal hunting takes place in Malta? Do you actually live here?
John Matthews (on 1/5/09)
@ Victor Vella
Zabbar, very nice place. You heard shots fired and automatically you assumed them to come from hunters. That is the problem with most people ASSUMPTIONS NOT PROOF. The shots you heard could have come from one or many people for a variety of reasons Why do hunters always get the blame for any heard gunshots?
John Matthews (on 1/5/09)
@ Victor Vella Zabbar, very nice place. You heard shots fired and automatically you assumed them to come from hunters. That is the problem of most people ASSUMPTIONS NOT PROOF.
Kenneth Cassar (on 1/5/09)
@ Ernest Vella: Welcome to the EU. Get used to it. Any member of the EU has the right to "preach" to law-breakers that they should not break the law. Do you have a problem with that? Why?
Franco Farrugia (on 1/5/09)
@ Paul Sant Cassia - Hardly 'a dispassionate observer', sir. So much so that you play with words in order to put the victims in a bad light - 'shoot' as in 'shooting birds' (and killing them!) and 'shooting pictures'. Trying to equate taking pics with the real shooting of a gun, are we? How rock bottom can we reach in trying to raise intelligent arguments?
Equally despicable is today's society continually trying to take the attention off the victims and putting it on the culprit.
victor vella (on 1/5/09)
I live o the outskirts of zabbar and all this week it sounds like ruddy vietnam here with hunters shooting galore, is it possible the no one in authority hears them? Can we bring out the army it would do the soldiers some good and believe me none of the hunters would risk shooting at an armed person. I do not mean to have a soldier state believe me I hate it but with some soldiers in the coutry side it would deter the hunters .
M Borg (on 1/5/09)
@ J Micallef.
"these Germans are volunteers and do this because of their love of nature"
and why has BLM brought them over? i think that have an agenda to boost Malta's tourism, am i right? People, BLM is making a pretty good business out of this issue!

@ E Borg.
you are wrong. There are patrols all the time, but ALE is understaffed.

@ Vince Gatt.
Your idea will not solve the problem, since poachers use 'unlicensed' fire arms! So again, it will be another breach on the fundamental human right for private property on the registered and legally licensed gun owners in Malta.


Paragraph 355W, Chap 9, Laws of malta: "355W (1) sets another interesting agenda:

" Any person not being a police officer may arrest without warrant anyone who is in the act of committing or has just committed....... wilful unlawful entry or damage to property. "

What if the FKNK will now "chase" and arrest the CABS who enter illegally on their properties?
Will Malta and out countryside finish up playing the cowboys and indians games we used to play when we were young???

this is simply RIDICULOUS.



Ernest Vella (on 30/4/09)
This Germans must return from they come and don't come to preach us what we shall and what we shall not. When hunting is banned in EU than it will be banned here. These Germans has no right to play the law part for they are also under the law.

I agree that the enforcement is not working properly but that foregneirs come and tell us what to do is an offense to our souvregneity....Illegal hunting is wrong and must be caught but the Germans must stay out of Malta problems....
Sylvana Zarb Darmanin (on 30/4/09)
Mr / Ms R Ferriggi, most of the anti's really astonish me as to how they are incapable of addressing an individual with his/her proper name!! Could there be some form of connection with these individuals?!!

Sir / Madam, whereabout did you arrive at your "WHEN's"?! It might interest you to know that hunters already have a season - the autumn one! Whether you like it or not it is there and hunters may enjoy their pastime in the parameters of the law! Poachers are the ones in the wrong and it is absolutely unfair that law-abiding hunters had to suffer. Had hunters been allowed to enjoy their Spring hunting season for turtle-doves and quails and had the Government adopted the suggestions put forward by the Hunting Associations, it would have been easier to apprehend these poachers.

And btw, your first 2When" reminded me of a Mother Hen talking to her little chicks!!
Alex casha (on 30/4/09)
everyone can say everything,but without proof is useless as always,to catch a dozen pochers shooting illegaly from 16.000 active hunters means that CABS and birdlife are both helpless,and waist of time and money,find another pastime,may be buterflies and honey bees will fit you
Kenneth Cassar (on 30/4/09)
@ Sylvana Zarb Darmanin:

"I believe that only the Maltese Police Officers have the right to chase and apprehend law-breakers!!"

I nearly missed this. No, you are not correct. To chase criminals, corner them and call the police is every citizen's right. The police are not everywhere. If what you say was true, a shop owner chasing a thief and holding him until the police arrive on the scene would be charged for unlawful arrest.

Please check with a lawyer.
Mark Caruana (on 30/4/09)
Mike Fitzgibbons- if it is legal in EU then it should be legal in Malta...if it is illegal in EU then it should be illegal in Malta...there is something called consistency ..and there is another word fairness...which means you cant have a country ordered to ban humnting while you let other big countries do what they want
S. Camilleri (on 30/4/09)
@M.Cardona et al
Illegal hunting being effectively a 'crime of theft' means that detainment as attempted by CABS is perfectly in line with Maltese Law. You do not need to be lawyer to figure this out.
E. Azzopardi (on 30/4/09)
We are procrastinating because the EU is taking its time to decide that there MUST not be any spring hunting. This has to come out sooner rather then later and we all know that this is going to be the outcome. Then we won't talk any more of spring hunting because we shall have to pay from out noises. Enjoy this farce until it lasts !!!!
Rosalind Agius (on 30/4/09)
Thank you CABS. Thanks for doing your best in stopping these birds killers from killing even more birds.
John Matthews (on 30/4/09)
@ M Cardona
Very well researched. It's a great pity that others cannot research the subject before putting pen to paper then, perhaps, a lot of unsubstantiated accusations will not be made.

The Germans are very well known for propaganda, this was established by Dr Goebbels and look what happened to him!!!

I am a foreigner and these people are foreigners.

LET THE MALTESE GOVERN THEIR OWN COUNTRY WITHOUT THE INTERFERENCE OF US FOREIGNERS, GERMAN OR OTHERWISE

Nice "posed" photograph and how did it become reported or accepted by The Times/
Robert Aquilina (on 30/4/09)
Dr Paul Sant Cassia, that was an objective observation which many feel but don't have the ability to explain, like yours truly. I hope to see more interesting similar contributions.
r ferriggi (on 30/4/09)
to Ms darmanin

as i have stated, i was on both sides of the fence.

my issue is not wit hSCABS etc.

WHEN,,,,,, illegal hunting stops, hunters can have their season.
WHEN..... they have their season and they behave, they will have other seasons.
WHEN,,, they shoot illegally, they will have the season closed again.

i hope that you understand that these guys that shoot at other people are nothing less than criminals. i still cannot understand why honest hunters are not reporting these unruly if not crazy pseudo-hunters. they know who they are and also where go go hunting illegally.

i have always lived in the countryside. i know what i am saying.
Dr Francis Saliba (on 30/4/09)
@MarkMifsud Bonnici

Contrary to what you say, environmental wardens would be acceptable to me but I do not have much hope that the hunting fraternity will allow them to do their job. This is because these wardens are unacceptable to a large and conspicuous section of the hunting fraternity who shoot at anybody who does not close his eyes to their obsession to shoot protected birds in and out of season. I live in a hunting area and I know that fusillades of shotgun fire out of season are a regular occurrence. Only a blinkered and biased person would demand proof of the frequent criminal violations of the hunting laws and we should be grateful to anyone providing such evidence in spite of threats and violent intimidation.

You have no grounds for alleging that I am satisfied with the status quo, quite the opposite in fact. I support the effort of anyone, even if “non-Maltese”, to actually do something to stop the senseless and illegal slaughter of migrating birds by those who have already almost succeeded in the destroying the local bird population. Resentment against experienced foreigners who assist does not fit into that picture.
N.laferla (on 30/4/09)
@ r.friggieri

Well said re "mithna tal barrani"

@ S.Z.Darmanin

Seems like you always know it all....
Sylvana Zarb Darmanin (on 30/4/09)
Mr / Ms R Ferriggi, similar to Mr Aquilina you are throwing unfounded statements!! I urge you too to inform yourself better. Only then will you be able to write credible comments! You are also wrong in assuming that I do not spend time in the countryside - VERY WRONG I must say! However, I see things in their true perspective and NOT as CABS would like me to see them!
M. Cardona (on 30/4/09)
on a final note there is one particularly interesting point to note
" Any person not being a police officer may arrest without warrant anyone who is in the act of committing or has just committed....... wilful unlawful entry or damage to property. "


Paragraph 355W, Chap 9, Laws of malta: "355W (1)

Very very interesting!



M. Cardona (on 30/4/09)
Quoting Mr Enriquez's excerpt of Maltese law on civilian arrest

Paragraph 355W, Chap 9, Laws of malta: "355W (1) Any person not being a police officer may arrest without warrant anyone who is in the act of committing or has just committed any crime concerning the peace and honour of families and morals, any crime of wilful homicide or bodily harm, or any crime of theft or of wilful unlawful entry or damage to property. (2) The person making the arrest under subarticle (1) shall without delay inform the Police of the fact of the arrest and shall exercise such power until it is strictly necessary for the Police to take over the person arrested."

May CABS please enlighten us how "As the team ran after him, calling on him to give himself up, " in relation to a hunting crime, fit in with the above Maltese law?


and yet CABS maintains

"We distant ourselves fundamentally from militant actions or measures that do not comply with the prevailing legislation in the country of operations."

http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?aboutus



David Borg Cardona (on 30/4/09)
@ Dr. Paul Sant Cassia

"Parle d'oro".. Dr. Sant Cassia. One of the most objective and interesting comments we have seen so far.
M. Cardona (on 30/4/09)
some remarks

"During this operation an active trapping site was discovered nearby and two nets were confiscated" Do CABS now have the right to confiscate? and before I get the usual moaning

During daylight hours, CABS members run controls of pet shops and bird markets, map trapping installations

During the hours of darkness groups comb outlying areas for illegal electronic lures. These cassette recorders are used primarily to lure Quails migrating by night to the areas in front of the shooting hides, where they are shot at when day breaks. The devices are mostly concealed in concrete bunkers or buried oil drums with the loudspeakers at the end of long cables in the scrub. Bolt cutters and angle grinders are used to remove and disable the devices

http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?birdcampsmalta

This is not an occasional encounter with a crime. Isn't this enforcement plain and simple?
M. Cardona (on 30/4/09)
VERY interesting observation Dr Paul Sant Cassia!
Mike Fitzgibbons (on 30/4/09)
I don't understand why people need to draw comparisons between what's happening in Malta and illegal poaching elsewhere in the world. Whether you like it or not, there is a significant problem in Malta with "illegal hunting" which is sometimes called poaching. People in Malta and elsewhere in Europe who enjoy watching wildlife will object to what's happening especially as it is common knowledge that hunting in spring has been given a total ban.

If you object to any poaching actions taking place elsewhere in Europe, then that's the place to raise your objections. Do not try to excuse what is happening in Malta by comparing what happens elsewhere. It is an argument you cannot win - if it is illegal in Malta - it is illegal in Malta period. If you are a hunter who has broken the ban then you are a poacher. There is the old adage "once a thief always a thief" It is just the same with a poacher, once a poacher always a poacher. When the act of poaching is seen to be the same as stealing then the necessary change will take place.

Well done CABS and the ALE.
r ferriggi (on 30/4/09)
an additional note:

WHY NOT SLAP HUGE FINES AND/OR JAIL TERMS TO SUCH POACHERS, ESPECIALLY THE VIOLENT ONES ?? THATS A FANTASTIC WAY TO COLLECT MONEY AND CURB THE ABUSE.

IT WILL ALSO AID THE GOVERNMENTS OBSESSION TO COLLECT MONEY FROM EVERYWHERE AND EVERYTHING WHICH MOVES ON THIS ISLAND.
r ferriggi (on 30/4/09)
to ms Sylnvana Darmanin.

i am local, i used to hunt and now i dont. i live in a village full fo hunters.

yes, mr aquilina is right. we doubt whether there is any other country with so much illegal and rampant hunting as in malta.

I invite you to go to any location in the country side in the morning,,,, and see for your self. commenting from a nice warm home about what is happening out there to migratory birds and especially birds of prey does not make sense.

we are not debating other countries. we are commenting about the butchery which goes on illegally HERE. this obsession with foreigners and intrusion is an old scaremongering argument which has to stop,, i hope.
Fabian Borg (on 29/4/09)
More as I ran out of space.

Too bad that poachers are giving Cabs just what they want and the pubblicity they need.
All this assuming that the events mentioned by CABS are true and not invented.
Let us resume things.
How many non CABS people witnessed all this ?
Also , the incident occurred at L`Ahrax ta Gewwa. This is a piece of Malta surrounded by the sea. No place where to run away !
It is also narrow enough to allow a systematic search of any culprit within a reasonable amount of time so any offender could be left within the area without the need to chase and let police do their work after their arrival. Like cornering a dog and calling SPCA.
I am not defending poaching but I am sick of events mentioned in papers with no poacher convicted. All to show a nice article with posed photo of Schultz`s and Helga`s with their million dollar cameras pointed horizontally. It sheds a bad light on law abiders who are deprived from what they have been guaranteed and many of then treated as trump cards by their own party in government.




Fabian Borg (on 29/4/09)
Dear All,
What does this have to do with a law-abiding hunter, sitting patiently in this usual hide waiting for a Turtle Dove to come by or systematically trying to flush quail from a field with his gun dog ?
I personally would not feel uncomfortable with CABS filming me while i perform these activities. I would rather ask them for a copy of the tape so I can record my hunting practices on DVD.
The problem is that the Maltese Government decided not to open the season and hence whoever fires a gun or is out hunting is automatically a poacher.
Had there been all the hunters out, especially now with this delicate situation, the majority of law abiding hunters would have served as example and could be warning the Tempted ones to go straight else we can loose this. Now that, for this year, it is lost, the Maltese people effected by the ban are acting negatively and seeking ways to get what was promised to them even illegally if it has to be so (for those who limit themselves to taking doves and quail). Poachers shooting protected species do not deserve any defense.
censu attard (on 29/4/09)
Well as they say,the small is always small,the small fish have never eaten the big fish,illegal hunting or poaching is done all over the world only what happens in tiny Malta is important,is spread on the front pages of other countries newspapers,having outside spies telling us what to do,it reminds me of the 1938`s,1940`s era,have a good look to see what happens in CABS motherland,Germany

http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?germany
http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?raptors
http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?massacre_dueren
http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?raid_2009
http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?heinsberg2009
Alfred Bugeja (on 29/4/09)
Mr Schwarze and CABS in general...

If you want to come here and watch the birds fly by... fine by me
If you want to come here and chase poachers and illegal hunters... fine by me as well

But stop calling for the ALE to be beefed up or the setting up of a wildlife unit. The ALE at the moment has resources that are equivalent to that of another important unit within the police corps, which is the Drug Squad.

Where do you think I would want my tax money spent by the police? To chase birds and wathc the wild trees grow or to fight burglars and drug dealers?

You don't need to get back with a reply...
MARK MIFSUD BONNICI (on 29/4/09)
Dr.Francis Saliba.
If environment wardens as suggested by hunters are not even acceptable to you, then what is?

Are you happy with the present system of having 3 or 4 police patrols controlling abuse?

Do you accept non Maltese reporting illegal hunting with no monitoring of the truth?

Before criticizing the hunters proposals you might wish to ask what they consist of. However it, seems you are so content with the state of affairs that you even criticize constructive suggestions.

You might want to consider the fact that all law abiding hunters are suffering due to the actions of the few poachers that do not deserve to hold a gun license in the first place.

No one but the hunter can propose a solution that will be effective. Government bends over backwards for the protectionists and has achieved no results at all. It's unwillingness to even consider the hunters recommendations will only result in the present situation getting worse.

It seems all the poachers are having a party with the current enforcement measures. Can you blame the law abiding hunter for this fact.
Joseph Micallef (on 29/4/09)
Because some Germans maybe mistreat animals does not necessarily mean that ALL Germans do so. SO why are so many here telling them to go back to Germany because of the things done there? Does it make all Maltese illegal hunters cos of the illegal hunting that takes place? Can't I, for instance, go somewhere in the World, helping out in preserving the environment - if in Malta most are careless about it? What kind of arguments are these!!! For me they are the arguments of those who are for a loss for good arguments!
Chris Mifsud (on 29/4/09)
Generally , I am against hunting .

But what i cannot stand is these foreigners who think they are something special and come here and try and tell us what to do ....

It makes me sick .. Who do they think they are ? Harassing Maltese people and attempting to force their opinions on to others .

If they want to preach and harass they are welcome to do so in their own country .
John Matthews (on 29/4/09)
Read Joe Camilleri's letter. He is 100% right. 220 shots fired in the whole of Malta? Be realistic. I forgot to mention that 200 of my friends were out clay pigeon shooting at the time (sarcasm) GET THE PROOF THAT BIRDS WERE BEING SHOT AT OR SHUT UP!!!

@ Vince Gatt

I think your statement is a non viable proposition. Who is going to be responsible for a probable arsenal? Who is going to finance this? Who is going to provide the security? Who is going to clean the guns ?(Malta has a bad climate for gun preservation). The best place for the storage of guns is with the owner, who I might add has been security checked by the police and deemed a proper and safe person who has too much to lose.

I condemn poaching in any way, shape or form but do not tar bone fide hunters with the same brush as poachers.

I notice that the term "hunting shotguns" has reared its ugly head again. This only goes to show that the writers of these statements have no idea as to what they are talking about when it comes to guns.
Dr Paul Sant Cassia (on 29/4/09)
There are so many fascinating socio-anthropological issues over the hunting issue. Here are some minor observations by someone who personally believes every creature has a right to life:

1. There is a tendency towards self-glorifying martyrdom amongst the conservationists. Everybody is fighting for headlines, and the hunting issue needs to manufacture headlines to sustain the issue. The more one is victimised the greater the self-importance.

2. Observe the image that heads this report: a whole lot of people behind cameras which also appear like guns: their scopes, tripods, cold black barrels, etc. The key point is to "shoot" shooting transgressions.

The key issue in the hunting controversy is not so much over birds. They are just the means. It is over representation and symbolic dominance. I say so, not as a pro-hunter ( would never condone shoot anything) but as a dispassionate observer.
Sylvana Zarb Darmanin (on 29/4/09)
Mr Adrian Aquilina, having lived abroad does in no way give you authority to write unfounded statements such as "I can say no other modern country has illegal hunting like Malta". Check your facts, Sir! Documented evidence shows otherwise. We even had foreign persons stating that hunting does not take place in their country. Such instances, similar to yours, show extremism and lack of knowledge!!
Edward Camilleri (on 29/4/09)
Well done CABS! Our hunting friends always want to find one excuse or another. The country of origin of those that unravel illegal hunting is irrelevant. The only thing that makes one shy of these incidents, is that
a) illegal hunting is rampant;
b) unless we get foreign help, we are incapable of stopping illegal hunting.
c) Those that call themselves legal hunters protect illegal ones by denouncing CABS instead
Therefore the only solution is what Vince Gatt has said, collect all firearms.
Dr Francis Saliba (on 29/4/09)
@MarkMifsudBonnici

Are you trying to be funny? The wardens being suggested as a solution to the undeniably prevalent illegal hunting would only be providing additional and bigger targets for the trigger happy louts as you know from our recent experience. The pro-hunting lobby is in favour of any measures as long as they are window dressing and totally ineffective in controlling their disreputable fellow bird slaughterers.
James Pullicino (on 29/4/09)
Well done to CABS and everyone working to abolish bird hunting in Malta. Unfortunately it is a matter of time before the international community pick up on what is going on in Malta, which is going to make us look really, really bad and damage our country's reputation. Please stop hunting in Malta, if not for the birds do it for our reputation.
Phil Humphries (on 29/4/09)
Regardless of where the CABS people come from and whatever they are doing here, we cannot allow such issues to overshadow the allegation that a man fired a gun in the general direction of people in a public place. We can argue whether or not his shot was intended to warn, wound or worse, but in my mind such irresponsible action constitutes attempted murder. - What if an infant had been killed by that stray shot ?

Although I would prefer the law-abiding Maltese hunting fraternity to disclose and hand-over the unlawful element in their midst, I am nontheless delighted that CABS has shown the courage to tackle this problem head on. I only hope that the Courts show the same courage when unlawful gun-wielding criminals appear before them. Punishment must serve to deter others.
Vince Gatt (on 29/4/09)
I do not know what the government is waiting for to collect all firearms (hunting shotguns) during the closed season. Otherwise, these can be depositted in stores managed by the private sector. Maybe a good idea for shooting ranges to offer such a space. The Government can enter into a PPP with shooting ranges.

1) It will immediately solve all poaching problems.
2) It will save us some more emberrassment with tourists.
3) Law obeying hunters.
4) Poachers insted will be controlled once and for all.
3)
MARK MIFSUD BONNICI (on 29/4/09)
CABS timetable for autumn:http://www.komitee.de/en/index.php?timetable_2009

05.09 - 04.10.2009
Large scale bird protection camp on Malta: Operations against the illegal shooting of birds of prey and song birds and location of illegal electronic lures.

Will our obliging Prime Minister be denying hunters the right to hunt in the afternoons thought their stay? This has been the case over the past two autumn seasons. Dr.Gonzi seems to know no better.

When will Dr.Gonzi realize that he is every law abiding hunter's joke? It's about time he took enforcement of rules and regulations seriously. Does he really care?

The hunters have put forward their proposals for a warden system which he has totally ignored.

It seems the PM is more interested in empty promises that win votes, rather than effective soultions.

With his "PAR IDEJN SODI", our obliging Prime Minister, who couldn't care less about the law abiding hunters, is probably trying to translate the phrase "FLIMKIEN KOLLOX POSSIBLI" into German for the benefit of the Bird Guards.


mario nicholas pace (on 29/4/09)

Again I like to point out that several illegal shots are being shot in the TAL PROVIDENZA area near Siggiewi , a well known area for hunters together with other sites like Girgenti , tal Hesri valley and San Niklaw areas. This is being done especially in the mornings. Pls Take action
JF Vassallo Ebejer (on 29/4/09)
I hate foreign interference as much as I hate hunting.

We are a sovereign country and hence we should put pressure on our authorities to do what ever is needed, in any scenario.

The Germans are very keen to protect birds, but perhaps before being so active in Malta, they should take a look at their own country – after all, charity begins at home.

Germany is the third largest exporter of arms in the world, after the US and Russia.
In 2007 exported just under 9 BILLION EUROS worth of arms to 126 countries – God knows how many HUMAN lives have been lost to those arms.

Therefore I would suggest to our German friends that given that their country enjoys such a shameful record, they should stay at home and fight this dirty trade.

Finally, I wish to remind these German friends that German forces are active in a number of countries – probably being shot at by arms that their own Government exported….

Should not the lives of their fellow countrymen take precedence, or is human life less valuable?
edward james (on 29/4/09)

Well done CABS! Thank you for protecting my heritage. Thank you for risking your lives in standing up to poachers. Thank you on behalf of everyone I know, all of whom are thrilled with your work.

Personally, I don't care where you are from. It makes absolutely no difference whether you are Maltese, German, Azerbaijani, British or Marshon.
Poachers obviously have not the slightest intention of obeying the law. Lock them up! Lock them up for a minimum of five years and watch the difference. Or even ten years. Who cares? Not me. The longer the better. Take them out. Take them off the streets and put them where they belong.

J. Borg (on 29/4/09)
Here we go again....

First it was claimed that no protected birds were shot

Then it was claimed that the ones photographed were out of the freezer

Afterwards it was pointed out that the identity of the criminal shooters was vague (i.e. possbly environmentalists themselves)

Subsequently those breaking the law were reclassified from hunters to poachers

And now, some find exception because the persons who have taken the effective initiative and put themselves in the line of fire, to control this abuse, happen to be "non-Maltese"!

Joe Vella (on 29/4/09)
Quite true EP Muscat i agree, i have also lived in Germany for a year on a contact, but never again thank God, but as you one should see what's hapening in Germany before putting their big boot over here, besides i think most germans are in Malta any way cause they know damn wel what its like in their country.Another note also yes Mr.Cuschieri the Times have a habit of editing comments that they don't see fit to publish, peopel are only expressing their opiions thats all
adrian aquilina (on 29/4/09)
well done to the CABS and the maltese who are watching over the birds...birds do not belong to malta so any person from any country can have their say especially when something is done iligally..all this "foreigners" talk is boring...sounds like the way other countries used to talk 30 years ago.thankfully the rest of the world grew up..after living in u.k. for many years,germany for a while and staying in other countries i can say no other modern country has illigal hunting like malta..must be the old farmers mentality here
Noel Enriquez (on 29/4/09)
Paragraph 355W, Chap 9, Laws of malta: "355W (1) Any person not being a police officer may arrest without warrant anyone who is in the act of committing or has just committed any crime concerning the peace and honour of families and morals, any crime of wilful homicide or bodily harm, or any crime of theft or of wilful unlawful entry or damage to property. (2) The person making the arrest under subarticle (1) shall without delay inform the Police of the fact of the arrest and shall exercise such power until it is strictly necessary for the Police to take over the person arrested."
GaleaL (on 29/4/09)
EPMuscat
There is no concept of citizens arrest in Malta, let alone by FOREIGNERS.
They should see what is happening in Germany and start doing their policing there.
EPMuscat (on 29/4/09)
@M Cardona

I have no clue where one draws the line in a Citizen's Arrest - guess it depends on the law - and I'm no legal expert!! I just wanted to point out that there is a concept called Citizen's Arrest.
E. Cuschieri (on 29/4/09)
Mmmh so much for free press.

This is my first time commenting, and apparently our comments are edited. I'm sure I did not write "Its about time that these poachers are apprehended." and "of these people".

If only we could write what we really throught
E. Cuschieri (on 29/4/09)
First of all it should be noted that the nationality of the CABS is irrelevant to the issue, because I'm sure that there are also Maltese nationals working on serious issues in other countries too.

All they are is a group of ppl who care about the environment, INCLUDING AN ENVIRONMENT THAT ISN'T EVEN THEIRS!!! Stop feeling so threatened!

I think we should be GRATEFUL rather than passive-aggresive, because I do not see many MALTESE undertaking the same kind of action. Aren't we a proud nation? Then where is this national pride for our environment?

Its about time that these poachers are apprehended.

Keep up the good work and lets rid ourselves once and for all of these people, who ruin it for everyone!
David Borg Cardona (on 29/4/09)
@ C. Mallia..

It is not a question of having something personal against David Conlin (even though admittedly we are not the best of buddies and never will be) but the same David Conlin has over the years with his writings, actions, through his combined websites of Proact/CABS and with the help of Maltese organisations like Birdlife & IAR campaigned to ban hunting TOTALLY from the Maltese Islands and thus proving what us hunters and the hunters associations have said all along.... That he is nothing short of an abolitionist and at the end of the day all he manages to do is to add more fuel to the fire in an very hot issue. Infuriating the already incensed hunters is no way to erase poaching from Malta and here I am sure you will concur.

Alas, however, it seems that CABS only goal is that.. to instill confrontation. The picture says it all !!

M. Cardona (on 29/4/09)
@EP Muscat


OK on apprehending but
please further enlightenment on PURSUIT???????

I had submitted some comments in a previous article. I think that CABS is stretching the limit and that a whole lot of unlawful acts are being undertaken to prevent other unlawful acts.

Regards
Robert Micallef (on 29/4/09)
Thank God we can now see how much dramatized was this hunting agenda.
When you consider that only 220 shots or so were fired when there are over 14,000 hunters in Malta means that we do have illegal hunting but it is a very minor fraction.
One has to keep in mind that with a handfull of people one can monitor the whole countryside. So these most probably heard the majority of the illegally fired shots. Having said this no-one knows what happens in countries (the same countries cabs originate from) where you have vast areas were poachers can disperse.
I believe Malta was given more than her fair share of bad publicity by these people, it's about time someone from the ministry/government questions their tactics!
Liam Kelly (on 29/4/09)
All i can say is i have the upmost respect for CABS! They must have some guts to stand up to the Maltese hunters; something which neither the government or the general public as a whole do due to vested interest/fear of loosing votes...WELL DONE.
EPMuscat (on 29/4/09)
@M SAID
It's called citizen's arrest. Here's a snippet from Wikipedia:

A citizen's arrest is an arrest made by a person who is not acting as a sworn law enforcement official.[1] In common law jurisdictions, the practice dates back to medieval England and the English common law, when sheriffs encouraged ordinary citizens to help apprehend law breakers.

Despite the title, the arresting person does not usually have to be a citizen of the country where he is acting, as they are usually designated as any person with arrest powers.
D. Zammit (on 29/4/09)
To continue, articles found on the internet show that Germans (those people coming from Germany such as these CABS), yes Germans travel to other countries to hunt illegally.

"Slaughter of endangered bird species in Romania

The escalating hunting of migrating birds, especially by foreign hunters, the widespread shooting of song birds with automatic weapons and using of electronic decoy devices, has made Romania into a death trap for European migrants.

The state earns enormous amounts of foreign currency, amounting to millions of Euro, from well-heeled foreign hunters mostly from Italy and Germany. This shameful trade affects highly endangered birds such as the Ruff (Philomachus pugnax). Common Snipe (Gallinago gallinago) and the Skylark (Alauda arvensis). "

Article from http://www.proact-campaigns.net/localcampaigns/migrants_romania.html
M. Cardona (on 29/4/09)
I purposely refrained from any criticism of Birdlife Malta's recent Spring watch camp regarding the number of foreign activists participating. The reason being that in my opinion there was a distinct difference in the way this was organised as compared with the current CABS activity. I have no problem whatsoever with foreigners being here, albeit it is my firm opinion that there is undue pressure to reach particular agendas. I and many hunters take issue with extremist approaches irrespective of the quarters wherein they arise. There are extremist hunters/poachers and there are extremist animal protectionists. CABS is one of the latter and their modus operandi should start ringing some bells somewhere!

Association with such organisations may seem to serve an immediate end but will prove increasingly more harmful than beneficial to both ends. There is no place for any extremist activity here in Malta, be it the shooting of protected bird species or the UNLAWFUL pursuit of the perpetrator by Joe Citizen. Time will tell.

Meanwhile, thanks to the actions of the extremists from both ends, Malta's reputation continues to suffer! Thanks.....both of you!
D. Zammit (on 29/4/09)
How nice of these Germans to come over to Malta to interfere in our domestic affairs.

So, they are allegedly against the birds in Malta but in their country, Germany, anyone can slaughter other animals for hunting. Why don't they sort their house first. See http://www.eurosafari.com/germany-tours.htm#tour1, where you can shoot at Russian boars and Roe bucks even in Spring.

And also, from the article, as usual so helpfully published by The Times, they remarked how fast and efficient the Police of ALE are in responding to their calls. Wow !!! It is a pity that this is not always the same when it comes to more serious crimes.
J. Borg (on 29/4/09)
@ F.Bartolo

We should be thankful to these fellow Europeans for volunteering in this initiative.

Where are the Maltese you ask?

Well our spineless government has purposely understaffed the ALE so that on paper it claims to be following Directives whilst effectively it allows those who want to break the law ample space to do it. Politicians sell their souls for votes!

Those Maltese who pluck up enough courage to stand up to these people, more often than not end up the victims of vile arson attacks on their property or body - just as recently again experienced by Ray Vella.

It is pertinent to point out that over the previous years those hunters (individually and as a federation) who were out hunting and witnessed protected birds were shot down, failed to assist the police to identify the criminals involved.....for a number of reasons.

Thus thank-you CABS, BirdLife - and the overstretched dedicated members of the ALE.
F.Bartolo snr (on 29/4/09)
For all you chaps that replied to my comment below, thanks but i also agree with Mr.S.Ross when he said that we as citizens get together and practice more vigilance and report to the local authorities, and not be like the three wise monkies See no evil *hear no evil *say no evil*
thats all in the past we are now looking into the future for the sake of all our Maltese citizens and no doubt although we are a small country but roar like a lion. F.Bartolo Snr.
C Mallia (on 29/4/09)
ALE has to be given more resources and personnel. These are criminals running wild in our countryside blantantly breaking the law. It is embarassing for Malta on many levels and to the law-abiding hunter.

@FBartolo
Yes we do need the foreigners. Government has not done enough and the proof is all here for all to see. Why do foreigners bug you so much and these crimnals don't. This is not about pride but criminality.

@ Peter Camilleri
Whatever the promises that have been made, "it must be stressed as well" - your words - that the legal situation is that spring hunting is closed and it is criminal to hunt. Another appologist for the hunters.

@Davis Bord Cardona
You seem to have a personal agenda against David Conlin?
edwin formosa (on 29/4/09)
What a paradox if these kind foreign ladies and gentleman coming all the way from Germany to protect birdies from being shot by Maltese poachers and then overlook (or subscribe to) innocent German children forced by their mothers to die from dismemberment, decapitation, or chemical poisoning by abortion !!!!!!!!
J Demicoli (on 29/4/09)
@ F.Bartolo Snr.
I agree with you 100%.
I have never owned a gun in my life; I am not a hunter or in favor of hunting but the way these foreigners are coming to our island simply to act as spies under another name is unacceptable. It surely is inconceivable how these foreigners think they would solve the problem of illegal hunting only by way of intimidating the few who despite the example given by their fellow law abiding colleagues, the enforcement section of the police and the envisaged penalties still cannot come to terms with the 'harsh reality' they must face. It is no joke for somebody who is compulsive on any thing, being hunting, drinking , ganbling etc to just tell him to 'switch-off' into a new life to someone else's design.
We treat compulsive gamblers or drinkers in am much different way. Wouldn't it come to anybody's mind that these few might need a very much different attention and promotion then they are getting from these spies visiting us year in year out and only fomenting hatred to and amongst our brothers.
joe agius (on 29/4/09)
Hunters, refrain from making a bad name to this country. Stop illegal hunting. After all, you only have to blame yourselves for being decieved and taken some people's words for Bible.
SHOOT ON CLAY BIRDS OR PIGEONS when you feel the urge.
Mary Louise Galea (on 29/4/09)
Just as a matter of interest excuseme if i come across as naive or maybe i have missed somehting here, but can someone tell me who is paying for these CABS? i mean are they here for niks or are they maybe on watch 24x7 24 hrs. a day or are they spending a freebgee on a beach sunbathing, watching the seagulls fly by in the distance. However sorry to contra dict you J.Brownie but we can hndle this situation and i know that the law is doing everything they can too bring these illegal hunters to justice so please open your eyes and read between the lines,however we do not need the CABS, our bous in blue can handle it.
ian Christie (on 29/4/09)
Dear Mr. Said, Ppl should try and prevent crime and wrong doing if they can. If some one stopped a thief from knicking your car stereo you would be grateful ,right? Groups like Cabs help the authorities( even be it in an unofficial capacity) to prevent poaching .They are protecting our natural heritage from ppl who do not give a damn about the law.
I believe that the "not my problem " attitude in the country has to change.
PS: Maybe a lawyer can answer this question : Do we have citizen's arrests set up in Malta?
Joseph Schembri (on 29/4/09)
Before anyone accuses me of being pro hunting let me say that I am against the murder of ANY animal for whatever reason (even for food) except euthanasia. But this CABS group is starting to sound like the nauseating GOL (the anti abortion fundamentalists) - and that makes them abhorrent to people like me who while holding strong pro life principles (any life not just human), despise fundamentalism.

Come on, they find it titillating that somebody 'fired warning shots' at them!
Alexia Borg (on 29/4/09)
@ F.Bartolo => Well, very obviously the maltese authorities are NOT capable of handling the problem, otherwise the German team would not have found the situation that they did. Babbling about being proud to be Maltese instead of admitting when we have a problem and working hard to solve it is precisely the type of reaction which creates these situations. We should be thanking these foreign volunteers who give up their spare time and spend their money doing work the maltese police and maltese volunteers should be doing. I love my country too but I personally find this extremely embarassing four our nation, and the last thing ist makes me feel is pride!!
Sylvana Zarb Darmanin (on 29/4/09)
Primarily and as I have always done in the past, I condemn any poaching. Nonetheless, I was perturbed to read: “As the team ran after him, calling on him to give himself up”! Can the MALTESE authorities enlighten readers whether such foreigners were acting within the parameters of the law?!! I believe that only the Maltese Police Officers have the right to chase and apprehend law-breakers!! It is opportune to mention again whether these CABS officials are being armed against the Maltese. Todate, nobody (BirdLife Malta / CABS, etc.) have replied to this persistent question!!

I believe that David Conlin was amongst those present. This same person had declared that: “We must not relent in our activity until Malta is a bird hunting-free zone”?!!!
Is this the hidden agenda behind this lengthy report?! Mr David Conlin you may attack poachers BUT you have absolutely no right to attack law-abiding hunters, or furtherstill, try to abolish hunting in Malta!!
Joe Camilleri (on 29/4/09)
"220 shots - in almost every area of the island -" one wonders how these groups are sure that they are not counting the same shots in this SMALL island of 'ours'.

So much for the bad publicity (thanks to CABS) that we are getting from these overhyped and overblown incidents.
L XERRI (on 29/4/09)
Who gave CABS authority to chase and try to apprehend these poacher.?Has the COP given these persons permission to do police work? What if the poacher in question instead of
firing a warning shot turned his shot gun on them .
The COP should see into this matter as these CABS are turning in something of a Vigilante
group,a thing that is not permitted in Maltese law.
Carmelo Aquilina (on 29/4/09)
@ F Bartolo
Yes we are incapanble opf sorting out these criminals. If Maltese people and politicans (and the law abdiing hunters) were to agree on a properly funded adequate environmental police service then there would be no need for our fellow Europeans to come and point out these poachers to us. And if Mr Bartolo wanted to go and help out anti-poaching operations in other EU countries he would be welcomed and it would be his right to travel freely in allother EU countries. That is why CABS are here and which is why they will be able to return for as long as we allow these armed criminals to roam our couintryside. Kudos to Birdlife and CABS !
E. Borg (on 29/4/09)
@F.Bartolo Snr

Well it seems that the local authorities are not capable of handling the poaching situation. Hence we should be thankful bird watchers such as CABS and ALE dedicate there time to clean up a mess that has been ongoing for a number of years. The police showed their prescence only when one of the organistaions called them, hence it goes to show that there are no patrols in the country side.

Hopefully a wild life police force will be created so that we will not need to rely on such organisation to catch poachers.
Dr Francis Saliba (on 29/4/09)
@FBartolo(sen.)

We should not need help from foreigners for the enforcement of our laws - BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE DO and that is proven by this and similar incidents. These deplorable incidents are not the result of any misplaced national pride by local patriots but they are incontrovertible proof that many local hunters are a lawless lot and that they receive encouragement from some locals!
Dr Francis Saliba (on 29/4/09)
@FBartolo(sen.)

We should not need help from foreigners for the enforcement of our laws - BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE DO and that is proven by this and similar incidents. These deplorable incidents are not the result of any misplaced national pride by local patriots but they are incontrovertible proof that many local hunters are a lawless lot and that they receive encouragement from some locals!
S Risso (on 29/4/09)
@ F Bartolo Snr.
With all due respects sir, you say the Germans are making us look like natives? I think we are doing a fine job of that ourselves, we do shoot ourselves in the foot a lot. We do have a problem in Malta with a select few that do everything in their power to break the laws. Just look at some of the drivers on our roads! There is no sense of respect for our fellow man/woman shown by these louts.
I applaud the Germans for caring enough about wildlife to come and HELP, yes I said help, police these poachers and catch them in the act. Knowledge is power and the more awareness that this practice is against the law, the better. I am sure the Germans would welcome anyone in Malta to come and help them with poaching issues. The thing is--man power--where do you get the manpower? Too many people turn a blind eye to these law breaking hunters and we do not have the man power ourselves to catch them all. We need to get it together as citizens and practice more vigilence against ALL law breakers.
Farrugia A (on 29/4/09)
No connection with the other A.Farrugia.

I have my doubt whether there is a clear distinction from poachers and hunters. Most hunters boast (of course not on such forums) that they have been/are poachers every now and again. One has to remember that for such people, shooting at birds is an uncontrolable fix, as evidenced by the way they write and also the way they attack (verbally) people writing against their preactice. (like the letter written out yesterday from an American Lady)
Joseph Micallef (on 29/4/09)
@F.Bartolo. These Germans are volunteers. They do this out of love for nature. Yes you are right our authorities are not capable of sorting out our situation. Had they been capable there would not have been the need for CABS. Easy.
Charles Micallef (on 29/4/09)
@F.Bartolo Snr.

They had to choose what to do in their spare time....................,

Either Save the World
or
Save the Birds

They choose the latter; it is a less strenuous job to do!
peter camilleri (on 29/4/09)
I can never agree with the shooting of birds of prey.....these are obviously not game birds....and I sincerely wish the ALE all the luck they can get to catch these poachers.....however it must be stressed that legitimate spring hunting was promised in writing both by the then Prime Minister Eddie Fenech Adami and by Dr. Simon Busuttil as head of the MIC.......it resulted that these were all untrue....as it is the poachers are still breaking the law whilst the genuine hunters are on anti depressants at home!!!
David Borg Cardona (on 29/4/09)
To David Conlin CABS Operations...

How very typical of you to pose for the group photo whilst you are holding the " Hunting Area" sign in your hand...

If I am not mistaken you were the first one to speak out and say that you were not coming to Malta for confrontation and that you felt "vulnerable" in coming here. Now to add insult to injury you rub salt into the wound by conjuring up such a photo.
M.SAID (on 29/4/09)
With what right these CABS run after a poacher????????????????(not saying that the poacher is right) but I think that normal people cannot arrest criminals and it will be detention against will and its illegal.
So why these cabs tried to catch the poacher themselves?????? Do they feel above the law or what????
Stephen Cassar (on 29/4/09)
I'd suggest the CABS not to come near Wied Qirda between zebbug & siggiewi. Some times you see hunters coming out from the valley with the gun & dogs during the evening! Where are the patrols? or the police force is scared?
Every morning/evening you would hear shots being fired!

Pity that good hunters have to pay for those 'poachers' I hope the government steps up the patrols & capture those who hunt illegally.
J.Brownie (on 29/4/09)
@F.Bartolo .Snr
No, unforutanetly, the current state of play suggest otherwise i.e. we are not capable of containing this problem - with so much rampant abuse , the hunting season is effectively unofficially open
Danica Rosso (on 29/4/09)
This goes to show that a two year ban on Spring hunting has solved nothing and has not kept the criminals at home. How very sad and frustrating it must be for the thousands of law-abiding hunters who have been denied what was promised to them - they have been needlessly punished.
F.Bartolo Snr. (on 29/4/09)
Why on earth do we need these Germans bird watchers, does this mean that our authorities are incapable of sorting our own sitiuation? sorry but all i can say is to send these Germans back to their fatherland and sort out their on in their country'. I think personally that this makes matters only worse as we Maltese are a proud nation and not really a question of shooting these protected birds but more of a question of making us look as natives who can't manage our own laws, please don't get me wrong i'm a totally against shooting any birds or mistreating any animals but surely our wardens and special police branch can handle this tit for tat situation,because i just can't see it going away and these foreigners are not doing us any favours, what if we send our own Maltese bird guards to their fatherland, what would thier people say i wonder? It looks to me that alot of these foreigners are taking over our country and soon will have more foreigners invading our country side (whats left of it after the speculators laid their filthy hands on it)*. F.Bartolo (Proud to be Maltese)
I Gatt (on 29/4/09)
Well done to the ALE and CABS for monitoring this rather difficult situation. The ALE would also do well to investigate the reason as to why several cars are parked at MIzieb very early each morning ....
Stefan Sammut (on 29/4/09)
Unfortunately we never learn! The goverment should enforce the patrols and revise the fines for such ruthless people!
A. Farrugia (on 29/4/09)
It's good to note that this article refers to 'poachers', not hunters. As much as I despise hunting, I cannot but agree with legitimate hunters on their argument to distinguish between those that abide by the rules and those that do not give a hoot about them - the poachers.

I hope these guys are caught and taught a lesson. What ridiculous individuals.

Sigh...

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