Naxxar Peace Band Club re-opens

A. Borg

Apr 8th 2009, 09:23

While I deeply understand Franco Farrugia's heartly-felt words, I wish to remind all readers that Band Clubs should be the clubs where BANDS do their activity apart from enclosing the village/town social interaction. Most band clubs also deter young and older people from a number of problems society poses on us. Band clubs have produced some of the best musicians in Malta!!! Band clubs are filling in a gap without having any renumeration whatsoever from the government. They should also be praised for the work they do voluntarily all-year round... be positive please... Or shall we now find another excuse to attack band clubs???

eman grech

Apr 7th 2009, 23:28

i dont agree that the club had remained close for the last 11 months too. Finally it is going to be reopened again. : -)

k grech

Apr 7th 2009, 23:21

They were re elected because the members have faith in the majority of the committee. Another thing that i don't know how you can be sure that the committee all knew about it. it could be that the room had been hidden for many years and as i already said the police used to make searches quite often and never found anything. I don't know how could the committee find something when not even the police could find anything. i am sure that the committee did not meet in the basement. as kevin agius said its case closed and i am sure that yes with this committee this won't happen again.
and franco we don't need your view as whether we are going to organise a festa or party cause yes we will and we deserve it cause injustice was made on all the members which is not fair.

G.Sammut

Apr 7th 2009, 19:07

@K Agius

That's exactly what's sad about this story - that the committee was released & re-elected. You proved my point btw, thank you very much.
I'm just wondering, if the club is so benevolent, why did the same people who have been prosecuted as a committee been re-elected. Wasn't there anyone else who could do the job, that could also make sure in the meantime that the club wasn't also being used for illicit activities? Because this is precisely where the committee failed. But they were re-elected, so seemingly the members do not really care about making sure the club is not harbouring crime, of whatever nature and whatever size. On the contrary, they unashamedly stand behind them, in spite everything. This is also sad. And shameful, like Franco Farrugia said.

Franco Farrugia

Apr 7th 2009, 18:24

Well, I wish you all well, and congratulate you for the re-opening of the bandclub. I honestly think that you should organise a party, a festa, in order to celebrate the re-opening!! And at the same time ignore what could have been!
Yes, well done, all of you. Be happy now, because your band club is open!

K.Agius

Apr 7th 2009, 16:55

I don't know why you keep arguing about this factor! Let the court decide what's legal and illegal and whats fair and whats unfair. It's true that maybe someone can write down his/her opionions. The good news is that now the court has not found any connections with the incident and the club can be re-opened again. I repeat and keep repeating this phrase as said on other articles that - "If someone has done something illegal must be punished... BUT why we have to blame all the club?" Why do we have to blame the musicians of the club? The members? All sub comitee's? all the comitee?....

To G. Sammut....

If you do not know yet , the commitee was released and re-elected again. And to tell you everything, 2 months before they closed our club a new commitee was elected. I am not going to comment more on this article because it's a closed case. The best thing is that now the club has been re-opened!

To those people who are trying to blame the club : Please stop it and dont try to win your point because its irrelevant.

Thanks

n gauci

Apr 7th 2009, 16:40

@ Franco Farrugia "You should be hiding from the rest of us, instead of appearing here, exclaiming that the band club should have never been closed in the first place.
Who am I to say that the band club should have remained closed? Just one of the people. It is my opinion, for which I have a right to express."

1. Innocent people should not hide their faces from others because they are innocent and that is what we are doing.
2. this is a public blog and we have all the rights to express ourselves just as you are doing too.
3. you said that youonly want to give your opinion then why did you write this in another message...

"Yes, the club premises should have still been kept closed to serve as a deterrent!"

I don't think that is an opinion.

Thank You.

k grech

Apr 7th 2009, 16:32

@ mr farrugia i don't see the parents of people who are caught with illegal substances in their home because of their children being accused .
After 11 months what interest me is that the club should re open soon.

k grech

Apr 7th 2009, 16:22

the elections for the general commitee were done last month and it was the club members who voted for the new commitee.

and as you said G sammut i agree with you where you said that it does not matter whether the amount was small or large. it is illegal. the point that a lot are making is that in other cases when the amount found was bigger or of a more serious nature the premisses were opened after a few days.

Franco Farrugia

Apr 7th 2009, 16:21

@ Mr K Grech: If my son were hoarding something illegal in his, my house, the answer is that yes, I am the one responsible! It is my house and he would be my son and I am responsible for his actions.

isaac camilleri

Apr 7th 2009, 14:58

i dont agree that the club had remained close for the last 11 months

Thanks

G.Sammut

Apr 7th 2009, 13:44

@Joseph Farrugia & Kevin Agius

The issue is not whether the fireworks were small/large. They were illegal. And we live in a society where what reigns is not cultural activities, but the rule of law. It is the rule of law that must be respected, by anyone, and at all times. If needs be and to defend rule of law, cultural activities should and must be stopped, whether those who break the law or enjoy the accrual of breaking the law desire this or otherwise.
The committee might be innocent. It will be a court of law that will determine their innocence. Innocent or not, they are still responsible, as it is under their responsibility that some people have utilised the premises for illicit activities. It is for this reason that they should be held accountable and removed - not by the law courts, but by the club members Kevin Agius, if these latter are dutiful, law abiding citizens.
@Franco Farrugia - you're absolutely right, although I'm not sure about how lucky we are in relying on a majority who thinks otherwise. I think it may well be a minority. The majority are busily hollering VMB!

k grech

Apr 7th 2009, 13:20

@ mr franco i have nothing to hide so i dont know why should i be ashamed of my self. i think people like you who blame people who may be inoccent should be ashamed of themselves. i alreday told you 3 times that whoever is responsible should pay for their actions but not all the members. we speak like this because we know the club more than you do. another thing and if your son is hiding something illegal in his room and you do not know and he is caught by the police is it you who have comitted a crime?

Kevin Agius

Apr 7th 2009, 13:03

I don't agree that the club has been closed for 11 months! This club was one of the clubs that kept Naxxar alive with cultural activities and concerts. We took what was ours! - And please Mr. Franco Farrugia and LGalea - You do not know NOTHING so please let me remind you, that you are NOT the court.

Thanks

Franco Farrugia

Apr 7th 2009, 12:50

Don't worry, I know all about blind, bandclub partisanship when I see it, and I see it in this blog. You should all be ashamed of yourselves, after what Naxxar has been through, and the position of the premises of the bandclub. You should be hiding from the rest of us, instead of appearing here, exclaiming that the band club should have never been closed in the first place.
Who am I to say that the band club should have remained closed? Just one of the people. It is my opinion, for which I have a right to express. On the contrary, those who claim that there were 'small fireworks' in the building need to explain with what authority they say that. Maybe they have seen them?????
The committee is ultimately responsible and whenever a new committee comes in, usually (not always!) they are people who are somehow already linked with the life of the band-club and not strangers.

Joseph Farrugia

Apr 7th 2009, 12:01

dear franco, you do not even know what they found and who used to work in the basement and you are blaming people who were just elected and only god knows for how long have this room been hidden.I hope that once this is over you will see that the majority of the comitee are inocent in this. i totally agree that the club should have never been closed since the majority of teh members are inoccent.

Franco Farrugia

Apr 7th 2009, 11:46

@ jp cassar: 'i can assure you that the fireworks found where as you quoted small fireworks '

1. Respectfully, sir, who are you to 'assure' us?
2. The Police would not have taken things so seriously had there been only 'small fireworks'.
3. Even 'small fireworks' can be very dangerous within confined places.
4. In this matter, I would rather believe the Police.

jp muscat

Apr 7th 2009, 11:39

LGalea I would like to inform you the type of fireworks found where nothing compared with what one could be see outside the street close to the petrol station during the whole week of the festa. Dear LGalea you don't know what was found in the club since you only saw from the media and therefore you can't tell. i can assure you that the fireworks found where as you quoted small fireworks

k grech

Apr 7th 2009, 11:29

@ l galea what they found in the basement was related to ground fireworks too and was far more distant because the room was not on the opposite side of the road but near an alley from what i heard and the fireworks taht are aloowed by the police during the place take place only a couple of meters away from the police station. as i already said i still totally condem what they found. About the commitee a lot of the members that were arrested were just elected about 2 months before and i am sure that they did not know about them ,whereas there are a lot of them that never even went down in the basement. The commitee never objected and helped the police in there searches in the basement not just that day but through the whoel year but even the police never found anything. It was an anonymous call who informed the police that there was this hidden room so s/he is someone of the few that knew about it. as i already said i hope that who really knew about it get caught.

Franco Farrugia

Apr 7th 2009, 11:28

@ K Grech: 'It is about time it is opened. I never agreed that the club should have beeen closed because i am sure that it is only a couple of people who knew about that hidden room...'
Oh, don't make us all laugh! Where do you get these ideas from? Do you have any idea how kumitati tal-kazini work?
Don't come telling me that the committee was not aware what was happening!
Yes, the club premises should have still been kept closed to serve as a deterrent!

The way you write, it is pretty obvious that all you care about is the 'VMB'. Everything for the sake of your Marija Bambina!
Luckily, there are many other Maltese who think differently!

LGalea

Apr 7th 2009, 11:03

The committee members must be barred for life from ever serving again on the committee.
As for fireworks being allowed near the petrol station, the small fireworks are nothing compared to what may have happened, God forbid, had the explosives found in the club gone off.
They might have blasted the fuel tanks just across the road and the blast could have caused a further explosion with the fuel and widespread where the fuel would have run like water in the streets and by being blown while it was burning for God only know what distance from the site itself.

k grech

Apr 7th 2009, 10:14

It is about time it is opened. I never agreed that the club should have beeen closed because i am sure that it is only a couple of people who knew about that hidden room and from what i heard they exagerated in the news because there was not the quantity they mentioned . About the petrol station i dont knot why all the fuss about it, when the police during the feast give permission for fireworks to take place closer to the petrol station than where this basement is situated. I still totally condem what they found in the basement but i think the punishment has been given to all the members, musicians and comitee which was not fair. In other villages there were cases when they found more then they found in the peace band club premises and it was re opened after few days. In my opinion it was all of making a show out of someone.
Finally i am very happy that we have our property back and i hope that the court will do its job and those who were responsible will be caught. VMB

G.Sammut

Apr 7th 2009, 09:49

Has the same committee been retained? Have the committee members been expelled from the club? Because otherwise this would be utterly insane.