MEP candidate involved in row with pro-life group

Joe Zammit

Apr 5th 2009, 21:04

Whether carried out in Malta or abroad, abortion is always MURDER of an innocent person. Abortion is always a grave sin. The mother has NO MORAL CHOICE to kill her innocent offspring. The only way is to safeguard it warmly. It is her offspring. It is very CRUEL on the part of the mother to want to kill her innocent offspring whether in Malta or abroad. No right exists to kill innocent persons. Killing innocent persons is a great social injustice.

Marlene Vella

Apr 4th 2009, 12:38

@ David Ellul.
You might wish to re-read my post again, with all due respect do not turn over and 'put words in my mouth'. As it is abortion is illegal anyway in Malta. What are you afraid of? Debate perhaps if I may? At the moment any woman can take a little trip to the mainland and access abortion. Do you sincerely think any of these women are capable of seeking advice on this without fear easily on the island? And no Mr. Ellul, not everyone knows how to avoid a pregnancy, STDs etc, get real, and one of the reasons for that is all this tabooing and silencing agenda and no sexual health education. Perhaps you are not aware that we have many professionals with skills in this field that are going to waste because there is no political will in these matters.

MS G HOARE

Apr 3rd 2009, 22:05

I AM NO EXPERT ABOUT ANYTHING BUT I LOOK AT ABORTION WRONG MORALY , I KNOW ALOT OF WOMEN THAT HAD ABORTIONS ALOT SAY THAT THEY REGRETED IT EVER SINCE , ,,,,,,,, SO iF I KILL MY HUSBAND OR ANYBODY ELSE IN THAT MATTER ,I WILL GO TO PRISON FOR MURDER , YET THE WOMEN WHO HAS ABORTION WHICH IS KILLING .LIFE STARTS AS SOON AS IT HAS BEEN CONCEIVED ,
ABORTION IS MURDER ,A GIFT OF LIFE FROM GOD

Joe Zammit

Apr 3rd 2009, 21:28

Sharon, if your mother had aborted you, you would never have been an EP candidate. I hope you are understanding me. When your children have been conceived in you, they had a right to life till natural death. You had no right to KILL them although you were their mother. The right is only to life not to death. Gift of life group, which is very popular and influential, thank God, is doing a lot of good for the safeguarding of life from conception to natural death. This group is opening your eyes well so that you do not slip on dry land.

Joe Zammit

Apr 3rd 2009, 21:22

Sharon, as an EP candidate, your position on abortion first and foremost MUST be in accordance with God's law before your partisan political party. God is above PL and comes before PL and any other party. Abortion is murder of innocent persons. Do you want to be involved in the blood of innocent persons? Favouring abortion is favouring the killing of innocent persons. Keep God's law as taught to us by his one Catholic Church before any political party and any other European party!

Joe Zammit

Apr 3rd 2009, 21:15

Abortion is murder. No decent person, let alone a Christian, can be in favour of murdering innocent persons as is done in abortion. Maltese EP candidates should speak loudly against abortion. If any EP candidate were to speak in favour of abortion, he or she would obviously be out of place.

Catholic Malta first and foremost

Malta Kattolika l-ewwel u qabel kollox

David Ellul

Apr 3rd 2009, 21:13

Marlene Vella
What happened to "Do not MURDER"? What type of repercussions would that invite?
You seem to confuse pregnancy with some sort of virus, one does not catch pregnancy. If one would not want to get pregnant we all know what one must not do.

lgalea

Apr 3rd 2009, 20:43

Victor Fiorini
Is it ok if it supported eu membership but not ok if it denounces it?
If it had a right to pronounce itself in favour because it suited the PN and the eu, does it not have an equal right to denounce it and pronounce itself in favour of withdrawal?

David Ellul

Apr 3rd 2009, 20:19

Abortion is not a religious issue, it is a moral one.

The ugly face of the abortionist is once again trying to tell us that sacrificing babies will bring us prosperity and puts us in line with the rest of Pagan EU.

We were not given the chance to decide on the Lisbon Treaty because, ( yes you are right lgalea) our ILLUMINATI politicians knew very well that they would have been embarrassed in front of their EU counterparts.

Well I don't think there is much choice who gets to be an MEP they will all get their orders from those in control of their payroll.

Marlene Vella

Apr 3rd 2009, 20:13

@ Kevin Ellul Bonici; GoL have to be the least politically intelligent organisation to crawl the earth, let alone meddle with constitutional matters to impose their self-righteous outdated bigotry which has long been consigned to the dustbin of European political manners.

"However, Gift of Life pointed out that being against abortion but defending the right to legal abortion was clearly not pro-life." Or just not pro-GoL is it? I fail to understand which part of Sharon Ellul Bonici's comment on facebook they fail to understand. The part where abortion is illegal in Malta anyway? Those who insist GoL is right about the constitutional amendment have no idea what other wider repercussions they're inviting, we do not even have a proper sexual health and education service on these blessed islands - ask the Health Education Officers - let alone how much we care about women seeking abortion elsewhere, backstreet or not. How comfy would this amendment be to sweep it all nicely under the carpet. How very Christian. Not!!!

Dr. John Zammit

Apr 3rd 2009, 20:11

The Alleanza Liberali is the one who is not afraid to vote for Abortion in the European Parliament and has been campaigning for divorce, abortion, gay marriages and rights and all the progressive laws that one finds in the other European progressive states. I am sure that the Labour Party is afraid to support abortion, the same as Alternattiva Demokratika. As a proof of the Alleanza Liberali's support to abortion I (John Zammit) brought Dr. Rebecca Gomperts of the Women on Waves to Malta and with Dr. Emmy Bezzina's help she gave a talk on abortion at the Castille Hotel in October 2007. In the coming European Parliament Elections the Maltese youths, especially the young girls are going to give a blow to all bigots who are against abortion. For Abortion vote Liberal Alliance www.freewebs.com/liberalalliance

Victor Fiorini

Apr 3rd 2009, 20:02

@lgalea: You ask "Can we have the Church opinion on whether it will support the withdrawal of Malta from the eu if this happens?"

Do you really want the it? Do you really want an institution that is not democratically elected and that brainwashes people as from a young impressionable age that you can burn in hell forever if you do not follow its preaching to give out an opinion in what should be a civil and rational national debate?

lgalea

Apr 3rd 2009, 16:47

The fact is that the Lisbon Treaty does what Kevin Ellul Bonici said and it appears that when our ILLUMINATI politicians approved it nem-con they gave this right to the ECJ.
Our only hope is that the Irish do not approve the treaty.
Can we have the Church opinion on whether it will support the withdrawal of Malta from the eu if this happens?

damian galea

Apr 3rd 2009, 15:32

So, Sharon is a very consistent politician to be trusted with representing us on serious matters of EU affairs in the European Parliament, but:


- She campaigned against the Lisbon treaty (which incidentally gives Malta a 6th seat).

+ Now she is rejoicing that the Lisbon treaty possibly (a big possibly because this is essentially HER very misinformed opinion) includes abortion.

- She would be pro-abortion.

+ But that is against the PL position.

- She is on the PL list.

+ She presents herself as a defender of national interests and powers against the EU swallowing our right to self-determination.

- Has no doubt that abortion and other highly sensitive ethical issues are to be decided by the EU and not the Maltese Government.


Political consistency has indeed a subjective interpretation.




-

Ingrid Jones-cameron

Apr 3rd 2009, 15:15

Pro life get a life and leave the rest of us independent democratic citizens to decide what is best for us and our kin!!! You are worse than any anti abortionist in the US. Typical that such an extreme organisation who wants to suppress women is lead by a MAN..
I will vote against any politician without a backbone who falls for the threats of such extremist be it labour or nationalist. Keep up the good work Ms eLLUL, STAND UP FOR WOMEW RIGHTS THAT ARE STILL IN THE DARK AGES on this island. You definitely got my vote...give them the works and dont budge from pressure not even from your party...for all I know you should go independent

kevin ellul bonici

Apr 3rd 2009, 12:45

What is this? A recycled version of the last articles? Where is the crux of the matter - that with the Lisbon treaty the ECJ is given new powers over our rights and that it makes it possible for it to rule that abortion is a universal right for European citizens? This 'new' report inverses the attacker's role. Yet, the point is that Gift of Life are not even doing there job properly because they have been mute over the Lisbon treaty - the reason being that they are uninformed.

C Bonavia

Apr 3rd 2009, 12:39

I agree with Victor if we're going to send conservative candidates nothing will ever change in this country. I have decided that she will get my number 1 on this followed by Cassola. They will both work hard and get results.

Victor Fiorini

Apr 3rd 2009, 11:37

I cannot believe that Gift Of Life have still not learned their lesson ad persist with their scaremongering campaigns and demonising liberal personalities such as Sharon.

I wish Sharon the best of luck in her campaign, and even though I do not share most of her scepticism of the EU, I genuinly think that she would be an asset for the European Parliament.

The more Gift of Life persist in this campaign, the more I get convinced that Sharon may get my number 2 (my number one is going to Arnold Cassola)