Pro-Life group denies threatening Ellul Bonici

p.grima

Apr 8th 2009, 00:36

@-M Spiteri

If SEB was really threatened she knows she has all the rights to go to the nearest Police station and tell her tale. Why did she not then? In my opinion she is using this situation to attract probable voters. (surely not me)

PMuscat

Apr 5th 2009, 19:54

The problem with GOL and other fundamentalist religious groups is their holier-than-thou arrogance.

They also have very narrow views on "life" which they limit to the human foetus without considering that there is a difference between abortion a month before birth and the effects of the morning after pill. Life is much more than that. Politicians have to consider many other things besides. They cannot let emotions get the better of them even if guilt and fear from rejection by society is what some groups may survive on.

James De Giorgio

Apr 4th 2009, 14:20

Gift of Life have every right to speak out and inform the public on pro-abortion politicians. Keep it up!

M Spiteri

Apr 3rd 2009, 12:24

@P Grima - Everyone is a victim if you dare criticise GOL or not agree with them. Sharon's comment on facebook were based on informing us on what is going on and her concern on back street abortion. What is wrong with that?

What's wrong and sad is to see someone like Roberta Metsola over blowing it for votes and says Sharon want abortion in Malta. How pathetic!

I ask Roberta to explain like Sharon did with a solid argument about the ECJ. Is it true that if the ECJ decides that abortion is a universal human right any woman member of the EU will have the right to abort ? That is the question all of you should be asking if you are really concerned. We should thank Sharon for binging this to our attention.

If Roberta is so much against abortion why is she in favour of the charter being annexed to the Lisbon Treaty? And why she never uttered a word against. Same goes for GOL. Maybe it's because she's a traditional politician and GOL a PN mouthpiece.

Unlike Sharon who is not afraid to speak the truth.

Ramon Casha

Apr 3rd 2009, 06:28

@Gerry Cowie: Such rants, however strongly you feel about the topic, will neither promote your cause nor convince anyone to change their minds. People are not "anti life" just because they might not agree that life begins at conception.

p.grima

Apr 3rd 2009, 00:18

Stop playing the victim SEB. That is cheap propaganda.

The GOL have the same right to show their opinion too in a democracy.

PMuscat

Apr 2nd 2009, 21:35

@Gerry Cowan

Your reply was directed to me but had nothing to do with what I had written. I wrote about myself, now, having to live in Malta with a nuisance called GOL. Life here and anywhere would be better, more free and happier without religious groups like them. They have no right to pester the living with their narrow opinion of life.

Don't try to change the meaning of what I wrote.

j.spiteri

Apr 2nd 2009, 21:08

GOLziPN are more interested in the PN saving its face next EU elections than the innocent foetuses in the womb. Wrong timing to raise this argument mate! For sure the fact that you are picking on SEB months after her comment was posted is back-firing on you.

carmel serracino-inglott

Apr 2nd 2009, 19:59

No Killing. It is a crime. The choioce is Kill the baby or not . Very simple. Even if the baby is a result of a rape killing is is just killing. I do not agree to kill in wars even more babies in tummies. I am for non abortion to be included in our constitution simply because it will dissallow women to be murderers. If they are murderers they may go to where these murders are allowed but never allow them to happen in Malta. Religion is just one character that is Pro Life. No KILLING. If one does not want the baby it is ok but let it live at least. All reasons given for free choice are baseless.

Gerry Cowie

Apr 2nd 2009, 19:57

Why are anti life people so vindictive against those who seek to uphold human life and give it the value it deserves from conception to natural death> @Anthony Baldacchino, you might like to read this book which tends to disprove what you are saying about those who are raped. Some do want to keep the innocent life involved. Please provide evidence of your claim that babies conceived as a result of rape will be deformed or that their birth will kill the mother. Victims and Victors - edited by David C. Reardon,/Julie Makima/Amy Sobie. @Renald Galea - Pro choice is pro death - quite simply put! I have a choice to kill or not to kill and I choose not to kill. Is that pro-choice? @I Abela - abortion is interfering in the life of an innocent human being. It is not about imposing moral views but purely and simply a respect for human life - even yours! @Victor Caruana - a sarcastic response to suggest that pro lifers aren't against war. Nobody can devote themselves to every cause! @P Muscat - Others are entitled to a free and happy life by being allowed to live in the first place!

Anthony Baldacchino

Apr 2nd 2009, 18:19

Abortion should be allowed to woman who have been raped, giving birth can be a danger to the mother, and in the case of a baby that could be born severely handicap, I feel it is a right of every woman.

J Farrugia

Apr 2nd 2009, 17:42

GoL I do not agree with the methods you are using to try and convince one and all to adhere to your campaign. I am against abortions and in favour of such a clause in the constitution; but the way you are doing it is counter-productive. If someone refuses to adher to this noble cause, you are free to boycott him, blacklist him, or even ignoring him. But you have no right to contuinue piling up pressure on whoever it may be. Once more I say that this is counter productive and you are not doing anyone any favours. Just painting yourselves as zealots. Which should never be. Coersion was never the way to bring in lost sheep as history has shown us. And you are doing the catholic church a disservice by doing it your way. As you can see it is the church that is being blamed and not yourselves. So I suggest you change tactics by gathering a petition. If the majority agrees with this cause, present it to Parliament for a referendum to be held. and then the people of Malta decide the issue. And that's final. We all know the type this Sharon Ellul Bonnici is.

J Busuttil

Apr 2nd 2009, 17:34

Sharon of NO2EU should stop playing the victim but what Gift of Life did was requesting a clarification from her on what she said about abortion. To Pro Choice commentators I will be simple in my reply to you. You are pro choice of death taking in consideration that abortion means the Termination of LIFE of a living being.

Graham Crocker

Apr 2nd 2009, 17:14

For once I agree with Mrs Ellul Bonici. I've had enough of the catholic church &am taking away our rights.

Ingrid Jones-cameron

Apr 2nd 2009, 17:13

In a democracy no one can impose their views on others. GOL, You dont have the right to stop people from abortion or divorce. It is a personal choice and not even the majority can impose their will on the minority. No matter what you say or do if my daughter got pregnant and wanted to end it I will pay and get her to a clinic in the UK like thousands of maltese women have done in the past.

PMuscat

Apr 2nd 2009, 16:55

Who do these GOL people think they are? Why are they trying to shackle freedom of expression by burdening important issues with a conservative religious baggage? Ms Ellul Bonici has made herself very clear, what other clarifiacation do they need? Why do they persist in making our life miserable? I am pro-life too but I will add adjectives to clarify my position: I am pro- free-and-happy life. I also want the Constitution of Malta changed: complete removal of article 2.

victor caruana

Apr 2nd 2009, 16:48

If you are really Pro-Life you should be putting a fight against war. How about such unnecessary deaths of the young generation. And your arrogant and stupid behaviou is driving people towards the pro-choice camp.

Ramon Casha

Apr 2nd 2009, 16:43

GoL's tactics are the best arguments to vote against everything they stand for. I'm not particularly keen on SEB myself, due to her strongly anti-EU stance, but I'll probably give her a vote in the coming elections just to spite GoL, and to neutralise any effect they might have with their mudfinging efforts.

edwin formosa

Apr 2nd 2009, 16:37

Someone just said, " If you are anti-abortion, simply don't do an abortion, but don't try to impose or interfere on other peoples lives." May i ask, " Doesn't abortion impose or interfere on other peoples lives too? Or perhaps you can kill pre-born babies so long as you do not impose or interfere on their lives !

M Farrugia

Apr 2nd 2009, 16:15

They'll be ringing bells and shouting obscenities next. It's not unknown.

GOL have no right to persist anything,neither have they a right to insist that our Constitution be changed to suit them.

edwin formosa

Apr 2nd 2009, 16:01

Funny that Pro-Choice people i.e. those who kill pre-born little babies, ask others to 'Pick on someone your size.'

Mark Galea

Apr 2nd 2009, 15:38

Threatening Ellul Bonici?
Do not make me laugh ... do you remember her 5 years ago? Is she trying to play the victim now?

I Abela

Apr 2nd 2009, 15:23

I am Pro-Choice, some people are Pro-Life, but GoL is Pro-Dictatorship. GoL have every right in the world to be Pro-Life, but they haven't got any right to impose their moral views upon me. If you are anti-abortion, simply don't do an abortion, but don't try to impose or interfere on other peoples lives.

C. Sapiano

Apr 2nd 2009, 15:12

Mrs Ellul Bonici should not play the victim. If she is a pro-choice left-wing socialist she should say so clearly. After all we all know that the socialist group in the EP stands for abortion rights,

Byron Camilleri

Apr 2nd 2009, 15:07

About 2 years ago as I was walking in Valletta a GOL representative stopped me and asked me 'to sign this', without even explaining what I was going to sign for.

After explaining that they want to entrench anti-abortion rules into the constitution and I refused to sign, she began shouting 'allura inti trid il-qtil???'. Obviously all the people passing by began to look at us.

Actually I am not in favor of abortion but do not think that abortion law should be entrenched in the constitution. However this is an example, of how they treat those who have different opinions.

John Zarb

Apr 2nd 2009, 15:04

Here we go again. Ellul Bonici is the queen of showdowns and extremes...talks of "threats" and "blackmailing" and so on. We barely saw these words in the press releases of any of the MEPs during these five years. Ellul Bonici please stay home and save the Maltese and Malta the embassment of the way you do things.

Renald Galea

Apr 2nd 2009, 14:54

GoL stop bullying people.
Pick on someone your size.
I am pro-choice.