Sending migrants back 'is not an option'
Katrine Camilleri: "It is our duty, as an EU member, to process all asylum seekers and find out whether they are eligible for protection." Photo: Matthew Mirabelli
The proposal to tow incoming immigrants back into international waters and send them on their way to Libya is "facile at best" and not a realistic solution to the challenge facing Malta, according to human rights lawyer Katrine Camilleri.
"I don't know how someone can think it's possible in a democratic society," she told an audience of students during a University debate on illegal immigration.
During the debate she refused to say that the situation had reached a point of crisis and said that, although the influx of immigrants had increased, no change could ever justify the violation of human rights.
The towing-back suggestion was made by Nationalist MP Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando in an opinion article published on The Times, echoing a popular public sentiment. He wrote that "...when the weather is fair and at the earliest opportunity, they should be towed back into international waters in the direction they came from. Every consideration must be taken to ensure their safety but we cannot be expected to shoulder a responsibility that is physically impossible for us to bear".
Dr Camilleri is adamant that sending illegal immigrants back to Libya is not an option because there is no guarantee they will find effective protection there or that they will not be returned to their country of origin.
"It is our duty, as an EU member, to process all asylum seekers and find out whether they are eligible for protection. We cannot send them all back without allowing them to make an application for asylum or examining their claims because some of them might not be genuine. It is simply against the law and against the basic principles of human rights," she said.
She confirmed that Malta, as an EU member state, could not just withdraw from its obligations and responsibilities under the Dublin Convention and other EU directives or from the Geneva Convention, as has also been suggested.
Dr Pullicino Orlando disagrees and argues that, since the immigrants are not coming from their home country, they are not eligible for protection in Malta.
"The argument that these people are coming here specifically to escape terror and persecution does not hold water, thus exonerating us from the obligations of the Dublin Convention (article 31)," he wrote, adding that most of them have been living and working as immigrants in Libya for a number of years.
When asked to react to this statement, Dr Camilleri said Dr Pullicino Orlando was probably referring to the 1951 Geneva Convention's article 31 which calls on states not to impose penalties on account of the illegal entry or presence on refugees "coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened..."
She pointed out, however, that his argument did not make sense because the Convention clearly added that refugees were not required to have arrived directly from their country of origin.
In fact, article 31 also applies "to persons who have briefly transited other countries, who are unable to find protection from persecution in the first country or countries to which they flee or who have 'good cause' for not applying in such country or countries".
She referred to the interpretation given to this article by UNHCR in their 1999 Guidelines on the Detention of Asylum Seekers, where it is stressed that the expression "coming directly" in article 31 covers not only people who enter the country of asylum directly from their country of origin but also those who have briefly transited through other countries "where their safety and security could not be assured".
Malta, she said, should continue focusing on strengthening existing structures to ensure that asylum seekers were able to find the protection they needed while pushing for more effective responsibility-sharing within the EU.
She stressed that, although not all immigrants were eligible for legal protection, they all had a valid reason for leaving their country and should all be processed under humane conditions.
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Raymond Sammut
Mar 4th 2009, 22:06
The observation of human rights of illegal immigrants must not constitute the violation of the human rights of the Maltese people in our own homeland and across Maltese territorial waters.
Equally important, wherever Dr Fenech-Adami is found to have compromised Maltese migration laws to the deterement of the rights of the Maltese people and of Malta's security, then Dr Fenech-Adami and the Gonzi government must both be held to account. It is the proper function of the political process and of the legislature in Malta to ensure that this accountability will occur at the earliest.
Corinne Vella
Mar 4th 2009, 15:29
The observation of human rights does not constitute a violation of human rights.
Raymond Sammut
Mar 3rd 2009, 11:59
@ Chris Finch
Please go right ahead and integrate yourself with the illegals if you think there is civility in their behaviour -- pay human traffickers, feign distress at sea, and come to occupy your homeland because it's their right to do so.
Raymond Sammut
Mar 3rd 2009, 11:38
@ J Martinelli
The illegals violate maritime law. Since their illegal boat originates from Libya, they should be returned to Libya. There is nothing to suggest that Libya would object. It's only because the illegals refuse to go back.
For example, in the case of the tuna-pen saga, the Libyan authorities offered the Spanish fishing boat "Monfalco" to return the illegals, but the illegals (Ghana, Nigeria, Cameroon, Sudan, Ivory Coast, Niger, Senegal and Togo) refused to go back. The "Monfalco" then took the illegals to Spain. This was followed by victimization of Malta from Franco Frattini and the Italian Council for Refugees.
This is why Malta has to pull out from the 1951 Convention relating to the Status of Refugees. Rescue the illegals according to SOLAS, but don't bring them to Malta. Take them to Italy if that's were the illegals want to go, and considering that the Italian Council for Refugees love the illegals so much.
I hold Dr Fenech-Adami personally responsible for the dire situation Malta is in after the way he channeled Malta into the EU. As a Maltese citizen, I want the Maltese government to remove all the illegals from Malta.
Joe Galea F
Mar 3rd 2009, 09:27
Sending the illegals back is the only option. Those who don't agree should leave with them too.
Paul Caruana
Mar 2nd 2009, 21:56
This article is simply stating the obvious, in that sending them back to Libya once they left is not an option. The only way out of this illegal migration nightmare is to apply the right sort of pressure, at EU level, on the Libyan authorities to stop this.
Unpleasent as it may sound, we are at the complete mercy of the Libyan authorities in this regard.
Chris Finch
Mar 2nd 2009, 21:43
Raymond, you said: The Maltese people alone can decide the fate of their homeland.
Only by opting out of the EU my friend. Otherwise you have to follow their international agreements first. Welcome to the civilised world.
Alfred Farrugia
Mar 2nd 2009, 21:09
Is Dr. Katrine Camilleri suggesting that the U.S. is not a democratic country because it sends economic migrants back under the wet-foot dry-foot policy?
http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/wetfoot-dryfoot.html
http://www.unhcr.org/refmag/148/index.html
Has Dr. Camilleri read the 2001 UNHCR (Geneva) assessment on the applicability of the Dublin Convention in the case of Malta – Section 4. (v) - Entry into the territory?
“UNHCR considers it wholly inappropriate to derive any responsibility for considering an asylum application from the fact that the applicant has been merely present in the territory of a Member State. Mere presence in a territory is often the result of fortuitous circumstances, …. This holds true irrespective of whether the entry of the person in the territory of a State was regular or not. Even a person who was regularly admitted to the territory of a State cannot be assumed to have established a meaningful link with that State … .
In addition, this criterion places at a disadvantage countries bordering areas affected by refugee flows, and thus goes against the principles of responsibility sharing and solidarity which are at the basis of the Union’s endeavours in the field of asylum.”
http://www.unhcr.org/protect/PROTECTION/43662b3e2.pdf
JP. Muscat
Mar 2nd 2009, 20:53
While there is no doubt that the problem must be addressed, the solutions being proposed by some people (eg: tow incoming immigrants back into international waters) is simply unrealistic!! Malta totally depends on foreign countries not only in terms of imports but also in terms of exports!! These drastic solutions in breach of Malta's international obligations could have serious repercussions on Malta such as economic sanctions from foreign countries! Not to mention the negative international publicity and the effects that this would have on Malta’s tourism and foreign investment. And how would other Mediterranean countries react to Malta’s actions?? While such drastic measures might solve the immigration problem, it is likely that the repercussions on Malta’s economy and foreign relations would be disastrous to say the least! So please, lets be realistic!!
Victor Zammit
Mar 2nd 2009, 20:06
JPO is submitting wrong signals.
For decades, the European Union has been criticizing and lecturing most if not all African countries in general and Libya in particular for their bad Human Rights records.
I think, what Libya Col. Gadafi id doing is simply testing EU values by sending Human that would like to find their ‘better observed’ rights in EU. JPO suggestion send wrong signals to EU and equally proving to Gaddafi that EU values are mere slogans, this is of course, unless both EU and JPO got a different definition for humans.
To my knowledge EU human rights chapters never mentioned the legal status of humans.
David Muscat
Mar 2nd 2009, 19:59
Sending migrants back 'is not an option'
For you it may not be.
Tell that to Australia.
L. Gauci
Mar 2nd 2009, 19:45
So now people who break the law by entering a country illegally have human rights. But the native population has no rights. When we complain because we have to pay more taxes to support those who have no right to be here, we are labelled racists. If the Maltese say that these Africans are bringing diseases that we have no resistance to, that is xenophobia. Dr. Camilleri says that although not all of them are eligible for legal protection, they all had a valid reason for leaving their country. By her reasoning we have to accept every single one of them, even though our tiny overpopulated island cannot hold any more.
john fenech
Mar 2nd 2009, 19:43
Dear Doctor you are absolutely right no change in the conditions impose on these illegal immigrants in Africa should justify the violation of our human rights! From 2002 till 2008 we gave refuge to around 11653, so far this year we accommodated 528 illegal visitors. If our visitors average arrival is estimated at 250 per month then till the end of this year we should welcome another 2500 visitors!
But these are not just figures these have to be housed, feed, checked medically and treated for any illness, given enough cash, transported to medical or other centres, educated and trained to integrate into society. And most of the time these immigrants do not give a hoot about all this because their desire is to move on to main land Europe. And although they are aware of the situation in Malta before they embark on their adventure they still blame us for their inability to reach their final destination.
Don’t you think that their irresponsible behaviour is violating our hospitality? And further more if resentment is more widely spread could this lead to the violation of our human right of freedom, justice and peace? So please talk to the other half.
John Borg
Mar 2nd 2009, 19:21
Raymond Sammut: at the end of the day, whether migrants are repatriated or not depends on legal obligations not on the will of the majority. Would you accept that your house be demolished out of spite if that is the will of the majority? Would you accept the legalization of hard drugs if that is the will of the majority?
Ralph Agius
Mar 2nd 2009, 19:10
I would like to thank Dr. Camilleri for her contribution. I'm sure she is one in a million and I am sure she realises that also. A doctorate doesn't give anyone the right to dictate foreign policy, not when the the WHOLE population wants ITS rights respected first. An expert in human rights, I would have preferred had she first discussed the human rights of those Maltese not crossing 4 to 5 borders to get as far away as possible from a tyrant, who I'm sure won't dispatch commandos all the way up to Libya (which, last time I checked, despite the Colonel in power, is not a warring country) in search of the million departed. So thanks Dr. Camilleri for making my day!
lgalea
Mar 2nd 2009, 18:51
"...but also those who have briefly transited through other countries "where their safety and security could not be assured".
They have been working in Libya for years Katrine and we have a right to renounce the convention and you know about it Katrine.
So do you expect if a million africans came here we should keep them Katrine.
Go tell it to the marines Katrine.
lgalea
Mar 2nd 2009, 18:46
Katrine, sending them ALL back is the solution.
Phil Humphries
Mar 2nd 2009, 17:25
If Dr Camilleri's interpretation of international law is correct, then it seems that just about anyone, regardless of their nationality or criminality, is entitled to settle wherever they like, just as long as they can get to their chosen destination and show 'good cause' why they didn't apply for asylum in any of the other countries they passed through along the way.
If I follow her logic correctly, a disease-ridden, criminal thug could travel from the depths of Africa ( or wherever ) to the gates of Paradise and demand to be taken in and maintained at the Paradise tax-payers expense. ( provided they didn't seek asylum in any lesser paradise along the way, that is ).
Unbelieveable !
Out of interest, who pays for the services of a Maltese human rights lawyer ?
r.lewis
Mar 2nd 2009, 17:07
@r.Ferriggi
x'karita hi li qieghed issemmi. Xi hadd qieghed itijulna shun, mhux ahna nahdmu ghalihom. U jekk hu il-kaz li qieghed tghid int li nixghu bil-karita allura kif tridna inzommu dawn l-eluf jekk irridu minn jghin lilna. Mela issa siefer int x'imkiien bla dokumenti ha tara kif jibatuk lura sparat. X'ghandu x'jaqsam il-quddies u tqarbin f'din il-kwistjoni. You should comment with sense.
louise vella
Mar 2nd 2009, 16:12
I am not surprised that Dr Katrine Camilleri, deputy director of the Jesuit Refugee Service, should fall back on the mantra of "international obligations".
But I am shocked that Dr Lawrence Gonzi, prime minister of Malta, should find no better defense of his policies than the same "international obligations".
A prime minister should be defending the national interest (whether as regards security, safety, health, money etc). He should bring his views to reflect the views of the common people of Malta and not impose his personal inclinations.
Michael Neville Cassar
Mar 2nd 2009, 16:02
Sending migrants back is better than letting them in we do not need NGOs that are determined to ruin our way of life. Human right is not the only law, we had to strive to make better our life, and here we have someone who is working contrary to the families of our island. IT IS NOT AN OPTION YOU ARE ASKING FROM US BUT AN ILLEGAL OCCUPATION Dr Camilleri.
Joe Tabone-Adami
Mar 2nd 2009, 15:44
Let's face reality, for goodness' sake!! Statistics have shown the negligible percentage of illegals who are really eligible for refugee status. "Not an option" sounds heavenly to the human-traffickers sending out illegals from the shores of North Africa.
grech m
Mar 2nd 2009, 15:42
biex nghaddi kumment fuq dak li qal is-sur Ferriggi. Huwa jghid li jekk xi hadd jghid li dawn l-immigranti ghandhom jintbaghatu lura mhux kattoliku tajjeb u jghid ukoll li ghandna nidirrizzaw il-problema. Nixtieq nghidlu x'proposti ghandu f'dan ir-rigward? Facli nitfghu kumment minghajr ma naghtu soluzzjoni. Fl-opinjoni tieghi il-gvern ghandu bosta dmirijiet izda l-ewwel dmir hu lejn il-Maltin. Izda biex nghinu ukoll forsi l-ewropa tista' tistabilizza kwota ghal kull pajjiz fl-eu ibbasatt forsi fuq il-kobor tal-pajjiz u imbaghad kull pajjiz jinghata il-kwota tieghu bil-benefficci kollha bhall kull cittadin iehor. Meta dawn jaghzlu li jitilqu lura lejn pajjizhom jiddahlu l-ammont li jmis biex tintlahaq il-kwota. Haga hi zgur li pajjizna ma jiflahx ghall-dawn l-immigranti kollha u hemm bzonn li tissolva l-problema qabel ma jasal is-sajf u jaslu hafne izjed lejn xtutna.
David Seychell
Mar 2nd 2009, 15:38
"Sending migrants back 'is not an option'"
She's correct. Until we, The Maltese people, decide to put our vote where our mouth is, we have no option, no hope and no solution. The eclipse of Maltese society is already casting it's shadow upon our islands.
Joseph Cauchi
Mar 2nd 2009, 15:24
If sending migrants back is not an option, then what is the option?
What we, the citizens of Malta, are demanding is that our elected representatives find a solution to this problem.
No one can deny that this is a major problem, however only those elected by us, can provide the solution. If they cannot manage to find a solution to this problem or are not capable, then I am sorry to say that our representatives are not up to the job.
We are tired of hearing that certain decisions cannot be taken because of certain international agreements and obligations. We all know that.
What the citizen demands is that his interests are safeguarded in his home-land.
If these representatives are not up to the job, then very simply, all they have to do is to relinquish their position and pass it on to somebody else who can!
Our elected representatives are there to first and foremost safeguard Maltese interests and to serve the people and not for the people to serve the elected representative!
The clock is ticking, ticking, ticking,….
../..
Matthew Laferla
Mar 2nd 2009, 15:06
"It is simply against the law"
But Libya does it. And so does Thailand.
Thailand also tows boatloads of illegals back to sea, and it's no secret. Publicity is given and people risking their lives know well what awaits if caught entering the country illegal.
In Malta, illegal things are endorsed... and then people tell us it's against the law. I have yet to see an illegal going to prison for coming here illegally. Go to another country. In Malta, let the majority decide. That's democracy, or it is illegal when it is not convenient?
While I do not agree with this lawyer, I respect her. But one should call a spade a spade and to refuse to acknowledge that the current situation is not a crisis is like burrying one's head in the sand.
EU members or not has no bearing in this crisis. We all know what the EU gives about our problems: not even a toss.
How can one explain that these illegals decide to go back immediately when offered 5000€?
Are there any do-gooders willing to fork out the €5000 per illegal from their pockets?
What's next?
Ivan Attard
Mar 2nd 2009, 14:57
'Dr Camilleri is adamant that sending illegal immigrants back to Libya is not an option because there is no guarantee they will find effective protection there or that they will not be returned to their country of origin.'
...so what? Are we expected by this lawyer who represents nobody's interests here except the illegals', to shoulder the responsibilities of Libya and of Africa and carry any guilt were they to find themselves back home? That is, Ms Camilleri, what THE MALTESE PEOPLE WANT and their decision in their internal affairs is SACRED!
People like this 'lawyer' make me angry at their temerity to ride roughshod over OUR interests at the expense of a criminal ring which is making millions out of the ILLEGAL human trafficking business.
Joseph Calleja
Mar 2nd 2009, 14:54
@R FERRIGGI L-ewwel net jekk immorru kull nhar ta hadd il knisja kattolika u jitqarbnu ghax qed jahlu il hin. What kind of a statement is that, What people do, nhar ta Hadd is their business and their conscience. The illegal immigrant problem has nothing to do with being a good catholic or not, nor going to church and receive communion on Sundays. This is becoming a matter of survival. It is causing a huge problem for Malta and the Maltese. Read the newspapers and listen to the people Mr Ferriggi, the HIV word alone should scare the hell out of you, maybe, you missed the article in the Times yesterday. Yes, HIV is on the rise and at least 50 percent is brought on by the illegal immigrants. Charity starts at home. Sending illegal immigrants back is a big option, it's a matter of how.
Alexander Morana
Mar 2nd 2009, 14:47
Dr Camilleri is adamant that sending illegal immigrants back to Libya is not an option because there is no guarantee they will find effective protection there or that they will not be returned to their country of origin.
Dr. Camilleri should take her head out of the sand and realize that the majority of the Maltese see otherwise. She definitely doesn't speak for most of them and she is not even an elected official. If she is so concerned about their rights and welfare, let her run for the MEP elections and we will see how many votes she will get.
m.muscat
Mar 2nd 2009, 14:46
Dr.Camilleri, here we are not applying or appealing for saintlyhood but for common sense to prevail. Your wisdom tells us that sending these people back to Libya is not an option. Granted - than give us an option. But it is evident that you don't have one except the famous words "THEY ALSO SERVE WHO ONLY STAND AND WAIT." So according to you we should keep on accepting these illegal immigrants irrespective of the hazards they can cause to our homeland. No concern is given to our size, our health, our tourism, our education and our ailing economy. Please give us solutions and remedies as words without essence are like a tap without water.
Of course putting them on a boat and drive them away is not an option, but options there are and we must find them. You are a human rights lawyer and doing a job but we are Maltese and have a land to protect. All we ask for is that a balanced, reasonable way be found and that our rights are protected too. And it is the responsibility of our elected politicians, our church leaders, our trade unions and the likes like you to solve it.
joseph cachia
Mar 2nd 2009, 14:42
Miss CAMILLERI.
Better sit in your posh VALLETA office serving the MALTESE POPULATION for a salary.
MALTA belong to MALTESE like you, and ONLY MALTESE MAJORITY RULE on the fate of ILLEGALS, not the EU nor human right's.
Just take leave from you office, go for a holiday at NALUT or ZAWIA (Libya) and witness how
and where these so CALLED ILLEGALS live and the HUGE amount of money they earn.
Of course they would like to live in UPPER CLASS EUROPE, and are ready to PAY me up to
30 thousand Dinars, for a lift to MALTA ----a passage to France-Germany-U.k.
J Martinelli
Mar 2nd 2009, 14:34
@ Raymond Sammut
Leaving one's country is not against any law, International or otherwise. Arriving as uninvited guests in another country after a perilous journey, they qualify as 'asylum seekers' and by International law and other conventions, they are entitled to protection and a process to determine their eligibility to stay. We use the term 'illegal immigrants' only for a lack of a better description for, how would one describe them as 'illegal' when they very often are escorted or transported from their sinking vessels by our own AFM ? Are the AFM bringing these souls to our shores committing an illegal act?
@ c Spiteri
How do you know that these people who arrive here without passports or papers had not their documents taken away for the sole purpose of not making repatriation an easy process?
Human traffickers take great pains in extorting money from these desperate people and then render their lives even more difficult by taking their identity away . These people pay up to $4000 each for the journey, otherwise how would the traffickers get them a boat, supply them with the necessary fuel and, most importantly, make a handsome profit?
A. Briffa
Mar 2nd 2009, 14:22
too many experts saying what is an option and what is not!
Dear, Gonzi, together everything is possible - would you kindly hear what the people want?
Louis Gialanze
Mar 2nd 2009, 14:18
What audience? Dr Katrine Camilleri is just a lone voice in the desert!
Joseph Attard
Mar 2nd 2009, 14:01
I feel sorry for the immigrants, but what else can we do for them? Do these NGOs realise the size of Malta, and compare it with the influx of immigration? Are they realistic when they say that we can handle them all?
A lot of people are going to extremes, basing fears on misinformation, and also misinterpreting correct information. On an other article on timesofmalta.com, one commentator interpreted the article as saying that 50% of illigal immigrants have HIV!
The government has a too soft approach to the problem and at the same time ppl are alarming themselves to the brink of panick, racism and more panick!
PAUL vELLA
Mar 2nd 2009, 13:21
For Australia it was an option and it worked. Incidentally genuine refugees still managed to settle and make a life in Australia....BUT THEY WERE GENUINE RFUGEES.
Rodney Borg
Mar 2nd 2009, 13:19
We cannot appeal to democracy in this since the people are staunchly behind sending them back. However, and this is quite a common NGO trait, when NGOs do not like the democratic outcomes they are the first to cry out "anti-democratic".
Who do we want to fool?
And R. Ferriggi, no, I do not go to church every Sunday and do not need to go. My country , its well-being and the well-being of its people comes before anything else and I do not need anyone who understands nothing about the real world and has always been maintained by Maltese people to explain to me how to do it!
T Lombardi
Mar 2nd 2009, 13:18
In fact, article 31 also applies "to persons who have briefly transited other countries, who are unable to find protection from persecution in the first country or countries to which they flee or who have 'good cause' for not applying in such country or countries".
Is a MINIMUM of 1,500 km considered to be a 'brief transit' according to our dottore?? Or is she trying to tell us that Libya, Algeria and Morocco are persecuting these people too? Dejjem titghallem fil-hajja...
John Azzopardi
Mar 2nd 2009, 13:13
Malta is too small to continue accepting these people. These people look well fed and dressed and do not look like they need humanitarian assistance. On top of that, as per the minister, the majority have been repatriated, but now we seem to have a growing number in the thousands from Somalia. Thus we are creating a nation in another nation. You think the Somalis will integrate and assimilate. Keep on wishing people. Malta is full-up as Jeffrey said and we cannot keep accepting thousands and thousands of people on a small rock of 122 sq miles. What are we going to do when the recession hits malta hard. Think wisely people before it's too late.
Anthony Borda
Mar 2nd 2009, 13:11
As Malta slept and the NGOs conspired, dark clouds loomed over Malta.
When Malta woke up and decided that the cloud had become thretening, it was too late to do something and the cloud had brought with it rain, sleet, snow, hail and thunder, and Maltese people could no longer go out of their homes or safely let their children play outside.
And life as the Maltese had known it was gone forever.
Joseph Cauchi
Mar 2nd 2009, 13:10
@ R. Ferriggi,
Why do people like you have to involve the “Religious” card, every time, just to emphasize an argument?
Is it perhaps you have no material to substantiate your arguments?
../..
Peter Paul Anastasi
Mar 2nd 2009, 13:10
Mistoqsijja wahda andi jiena, dawn in-nies li jigu Malta u jaqsmu mal- Maltin l- opportunitajiet ta' xoghol, qatt kienu kriminali? Malta spiccat.
Denis Catania
Mar 2nd 2009, 13:10
While we argue if we should send them back or not. We should stop accepting new arrivals.
Than we can try to send them to mainland Europe, if Mainland Europe doesn't accept them. We must send them back.
First you stop the bleeding than you heal the problem.
v.deguara
Mar 2nd 2009, 12:57
"...she told an audience of students during a University dedate on illegal immigration". Of the 10,000 + university students, I can barely make out 2 dozens in the audience from the photo ! What happened? It seems our university students are not interested in this problem!?
Brian Maloret
Mar 2nd 2009, 12:12
Sending migrants back 'is not an option'
Yes it is.
d. borg
Mar 2nd 2009, 12:03
With what authority does Katrine Camilleri address this situation. We know that she is all for the immigrants but, sorry, your statements do not reflect the opinions of the majority of the Maltese. We may be a democratic society, but that does not mean that we become a banana republic, free for all. When faced with such an invasion, we prefer to put Malta as our first priority, all international obligations will take second place.
Stephen Farrugia
Mar 2nd 2009, 11:46
Sure, we keep them and take the rest of Africa.
H.Dempster
Mar 2nd 2009, 11:41
With reference to Dr camilleri's statement about legality or not , we , the Maltese are not interested neither in the Geneva Conventions nor any other, since they are not capable to control the situation and just order us about and treat us as puppets( unfortunatly some are YES SIR). These convention do not realise the we are forced to accept illegal immigrants who we know nothing about so lets please shut up and do something once and for all. JPO is right.
p debattista
Mar 2nd 2009, 11:34
yes... of course they have a reason ... taking advantage of our ridiculous system, all eu countries should put in their share not just those that are hit by it. When someone is hurt or killed you will get your reason intelligent woman!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT
Sandro Pace
Mar 2nd 2009, 11:26
Go and tell that to Italy, which proposed joint patrols with Libya to turn them back, and is just pending agreement with Libya (and not UNHCR) approval. So what a difference does it make if a boat escapes this patrol net, and is safely taken back to Libyan waters.
If Italy can do it, or propose it.....
Now there is a sea of water of what the UNHCR wants, and what should be done.
Chris Mifsud
Mar 2nd 2009, 11:23
@Dr. Katrine Camilleri
"I don't know how someone can think it's possible in a democratic society" - K Camilleri
In a democratic society as far as i know , the government should listen to the pleas of the majority of the citizens .
It is crystal clear that the majority of the Maltese do not want the illegal immigrants here for a great number of reasons such as the lack of space , the lack of resources , the lack of manpower , the lack of employment , the increase in crime and the spread of disease .
The government was elected to lead Malta and also to protect Malta and its citizens . The E.U and the U.N.H.C.R and all the other NGO's did not elect the government , WE DID . Therefore the government should look into its obligations towards its citizens and not towards the international community , the E.U and the UNHCR .
Dr. Gonzi , please take note before it is too late . Do you want to be remembered as the person responsible for ruining Malta ? Just take the UK , a country much larger than Malta . Do something now
R FERRIGGI
Mar 2nd 2009, 11:22
Nisperw li dawn li qeghdin jappelaw biex limmigranti illegali jintbaghtu lura fuq il bahar etc etc ma jmorrux kull nhar ta hadd il knisja kattolika u jitqarbnu ghax qed jahlu il hin.
filwaqt li il problema ghandha tigi indirizzata bis serjeta, ejjew ma ninsewx li ahna nghixu bil karita ta pajjizi kbar ohra. ibda mil EU u mil USA bil hafna ghajnuna, grants, protokolli etc li niehdu. hafna nies issa qieghdin jahsbu li ahna xi pajjiz kbir u self- sufficient u ma ghansna bzonn lil hadd
c Spiteri
Mar 2nd 2009, 11:22
Those who come over as asylum seekers have nothing to hide and as such should have their passport to proof their country of origin. If they dont present it it looks as though they have something to hide.
Raymond Sammut
Mar 2nd 2009, 11:09
At the end of the day, it is the majority of Maltese citizens and not "conventions" who will decide. It is the illegal immigrants who violated International Maritime laws and International Migration laws, not the Maltese people. The Maltese people alone can decide the fate of their homeland. The illegal immigrants collaborated with crime syndicates, and have no right whatsoever to be on Malta, let alone they have a right to remain on Malta. It is my homeland they are occupying, and the Maltese government has the obligation to remove each and every illegal immigrant, and the sooner the better.
George Vassallo
Mar 2nd 2009, 11:07
Ok, and what about Human rights for me and my family? It's just too much as the more we help them the more they come. It's not safe to let my wife to go for a walk anymore as it's full of these immigrants which is becoming dsngerous. We people have to wake up and do something about it.
Alex Spiteri
Mar 2nd 2009, 11:03
"I don't know how someone can think it's (sending illegal immigrants back) possible in a democratic society,"
Dr Camilleri, in a democratic country, an elected government should decide what options to take to solve his problems and not some lawyer employed with an unelected NGO!