UPDATE 2: St John's Museum extension project dropped - FAA, Pullicino Orlando reactions
'The foundation has agreed to drop the project' Mgr Philip Calleja
The Prime Minister and the Archbishop have agreed to recommend to the St John's Co-Cathedral Foundation to drop the proposed underground extension of St John's Co-Cathedral Museum, the DOI said this afternoon.
The decision followed a meeting during which the Archbishop expressed his concerns over the plans, the DOI said.
The two agreed that such a project should not divide the people.
The announcement was made just hours before Parliament was due to debate an Opposition motion urging the government to withdraw its support for the project.
The St John's Co-Cathedral Foundation in a four-line statement said that it agreed with the recommendation by the Prime Minister and the Archbishop that the project should be dropped.
"We have agreed to drop the project" Mgr Philip Calleja, the foundation's president, said when contacted.
Astrid Vella, coordinator of Flimkien Ghal-Ambjent Ahjar, the NGO which first raised the alarm about the project last year, welcomed the news.
"I am delighted for Malta and the world, because St John's is not just a Maltese landmark, but a world heritage treasure which has now been saved from the danger which had been posed.
"We thank all those who contributed to bringing this about, the 1,500 who signed our petition, MPs from both sides who struggled so hard, the Archbishop's timely intervention, Opposition leader Joseph Muscat for his keen personal interest, and not least Dr Gonzi for having the courage and maturity to reconsider his position," Ms Vella said.
"We feel that this is an encouraging sign of a new more mature and less partisan way of doing politics, which bodes well for a future democracy with a greater input from the public."
Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando also welcomed the decision.
"I greet this development with satisfaction and peace of mind. I have been expressing my opposition and concern about this project since November, and I therefore welcome the decision which has been taken," the Nationalist MP said.
The decision was also welcomed by Alternattiva Demokratika in a statement.
The project, announced late last year, would have involved digging up St John Square and part of St John Street down to a depth of some five storeys for the building of an underground extension of the Cathedral museum. The purpose of the project was to enable the museum to better exhibit its treasures, especially the world unique set of 29 Flemish tapestries.
The project was estimated to cost €16m of which €14 million would have come from EU funds.
The project had drawn widespread criticism, including opposition from government MPs Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando, Jesmond Mugliett and Ninu Zammit.
Labour leader Joseph Muscat earlier this month revealed correspondence showing that the Church was also against the underground extension. Earlier he had given notice of the parliamentary resolution urging the government to withdraw its support for the project.
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Maria Dolores Fenech
Feb 13th 2009, 18:31
I did not have an opinion before I heard Astrid Vella say that the plans were so badly made, that they don't even have an emergency exit! What? Well done FAA, Dr Muscat, JPO and others who opposed this project.
Mary Fisher
Feb 13th 2009, 18:02
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY IN MALTA!!!!!!!!! I AM SO GLAD THAT AT LONG LAST THE POWERS THAT BE HAVE WOKEN UP AND SMELT THE COFFEE. I AM SURE THAT EVEN ST. JOHN WILL BE CELEBRATING IN HEAVEN.
r ferriggi
Feb 13th 2009, 16:04
On these islands we seem to be proposing projects which even the man on the street can see that are not feasible, or are even damaging.
blatant examples: st johns museum, parliament in opera house site, the Xaghra Lhamra golf course, MANOEL ISLAND rape by greedy speculators.
may i add the WIND FARM off ghadira. ( i assure that this will be a terrible mistake).
All this energy and time wastage for this famous current trend of ''consultants'' and of course their mega-fees.
Joe Micallef
Feb 13th 2009, 13:23
Digging the hole should only be justified or less by those studies! Not by fundamentalist shout-abouts
Knowing St.Elmo particularly well, I do not think that proper restoration and continuous maintenance will cost less. There should be other uses for the place, like establishing a specialized international university. The place needs to be given life.
Whilst your alternative use of the former National theatre is far better than rebuilding the site as a National theatre or as a Parliament, I am against dispersing the treasures of the cathedral given the intrinsic relation to the cathedral precincts. – Its like organising a Caravaggio exhibition and having the exhibits distributed in North, South, West and East Streets.
Joe Micallef
Feb 13th 2009, 13:22
@ AGC
Can you please tell me what I said before March, because I think you are slightly confused!!! I always thought that the MLP had a golden opportunity to win the election, but communications wise they misused it all by going down the route of corruption. That amongst other instances had shown the enormous gap between the strategic and communications ability of both parties. Had Phil Nobel been around he
would have certainly made a meal out of that.
No one had scientific knowledge about the possible effects and no one will have them now. There were only opinions to which everyone is entitled – the problem is that those against this project turned those into facts for the sake of stirring emotions and they have succeeded – especially in your case.
cont..
V.Micallef
Feb 13th 2009, 10:25
@ Mark Vella Bardon
I would like to underline the wise words written by Dr Mark Vella Bardon:" I never noticed that there was any division in the country over this project. The only evidence was that of unanimous uproar that any such project was ever proposed. Gladly, common sense prevailed. The fact that EU provides millions of Euros for anything like this does not justify it's implementation." May I just add the following: Where does that leave RCC? Does it add feathers in his cap as our man in Brussels, or does dent his credentials as a candidate as EU Commissioner? Honest answers, please.
L. Gauci
Feb 13th 2009, 07:23
Malta - if you're afraid of change, you will be condemned to living in the hell you have created up to this point in time. Which isn't pretty. Get a life. This was not a political issue. It was about saving and showcasing a significant part of your cultural heritage. Only in Malta! Get a life. You bore me to tears. All of you! How is this about embarrassing PN or Gonzi? Have you seen the third world conditions in which those famous tapestries are currently exhibited. I say again, get a life, and GROW UP!
Mark Seychell
Feb 13th 2009, 00:25
Gonzi might have been wrong on this one, and it was through the hard work by the PL the AD and the FAA that this was achieved, but in my opinion the PN came into good light because of it's "courageous and mature decision". The country was indeed unified against this project and it did split the PN parliamentary group, so I think it has to be seen as a win win situation for the PN. In my opinion Dr Muscat was not expecting Gonzi to recommend against the project.
A.Gauci Cunnigham
Feb 12th 2009, 21:49
@J.Micallef---really??? Is that your new opinion of JPO!!?? Funny how I don't recollect you saying such things before March!!!
re the Palazzos---The tapestries I have seen the palazzos' interior not. So let us give credibility to your assertion that you seem to be quite familiar with the interior of these Palazzos and so are saying that there is no place for the Tapestries in them. Still this does not justify the digging of a hole the size of a quarry right in front of the cathedral as the tapestries could go where they are really meant to be and therefore hanging in the Church itself!!
Suffice to say that I assume you know about the fact that at the stage of public consultation this "project" didn't even have a geological study when it was rather 'geological" by nature!! I assume you know that Fort St.Elmo in valletta is in a state of near disrepair and could be restored with much less money!! I assume you know that not even 1 organisation approved of this project!!
What about using the new Opera Hse site as a museum to exhibit these tapestries??? Or is that impossible too Mr.micallef???
Joe Micallef
Feb 12th 2009, 17:32
A Gauci Cunnigham,
If you want my opinion on JPO whilst I do not believe that he has done anything unlawful he sure ruined his environmental credentials, that is, whilst I believe (unless proven to the contrary) that he had every right to pursue his egoistic financial gain, his actions were diametrically opposed to the image he was trying to construct of himself.
Do I read you saying exhibiting the tapestries in the Palazzo’s – well in that case either you have never seen the tapestries or the palazzo’s. If this is the informed opinion on which you base your arguments then I understand your objectivity.
A.Gauci Cunningham
Feb 12th 2009, 16:38
@ Joe Micallef--What blatant hypocrisy!!!! Now JPO is no longer the "haruf", the sacrificial lamb of Dr.Sant, the poor martyr, the hero to whom the crowds cheer....now he is silly and revengeful and not to be trusted with MEPA issues!! This is exactly what I hate about politics----they use you when they need you and then treat you like dirt when they're finished with you!!
JPO ,love him or hate him, spoke the language of the people....If you dont like it go to Pieta and demand his resignation and if they'll have any time for you as you seem to have for them they'll heed yor advice and give him the kick they (nationalists) are dying to give him!!
A.Gauci Cunningham
Feb 12th 2009, 16:31
@ Joe Micallef--To the contrary those proposing the tapestries to be in the palazzos are not ruining the palazzos but they want them restored!! Since when has restoration become the ruining of a building?? Since when has using dilapidated monuments become condemnable?? Regarding your "vested interests" comment the less said the better!! (I wonder who are these barons-cum-bloggers who own any of these palazzos here!!).....This project was a menace as it was going to transform our capital into a building site for the years to come and would have cost us loads of money when there are much better alternatives!! The problem with the PN is that it is always "crying' for solutions and then when these are offered and garner the people's support the same government ignores them!!!
R.Aguis-----If FAA is to be condemned because it didn't follow the "normal" process than why did the PM give in?? Why are Ninu Zammit, JPO and Mugliette still in parliament if they too want to bypass the authorities?? And by the way do you know what the MEPA's Heritage Advisory Commitee said about this project?? Do you know that they described it as a CLEAR RISK??? Are these Labourites too???
Joe Micallef
Feb 12th 2009, 15:22
APG although I respect your opinion let me try to explain
1) Astrid Vella (Awarded and Honoured Internationally) - Increasingly fundamentalists with no alternatives apart from “dubious” ones - international awards what are your referring to the Noble Prize (even that is questioned)
2) 1,500 Maltese Citizens (Petitioners) - Respect their opinion - it would be good to know how many where approached and how many refused to sign petition.
3) Partit Laburista (Total) - Clever Strategists and Opportunists with little substance
4) PL motion in PARLIAMENT (34 MPs.) more of the same
5) Archbishop of Malta ( Curia ++) Embarrassment screen for PM
& 6) The PN MPs (JPO PLUS OTHERS !!!) Getting their own back (JPO well not really someone consult on subject)
Anthony Pace Gouder
Feb 12th 2009, 14:42
All the credit in succeeding TO STOP this PROJECT is attributed to FUNDEMANTILIST VIEWS as labeled by Mr. J. Micallef, belonging to:-
1) Astrid Vella (Awarded and Honoured Internationally)
2) 1,500 Maltese Citizens (Petitioners)
3) Partit Laburista (Total)
4) PL motion in PARLIAMENT (34 MPs.)
5) Archbishop of Malta ( Curia ++)
& 6) The PN MPs (JPO PLUS OTHERS !!!)
Who thought the MALTESE were divided on this issue ?
Mike Magri
Feb 12th 2009, 14:25
@ Mark Galea...
If according to you, this Dr. GonziPN government`s U-TURN was done due to "..strong political responsibility and maturity..", how come being so strong(!!!) and mature(!!!), INSTEAD, the government, which from the beginning CREATED this controvercy itself,did not take the opportunity of the motion, and debated it in parlament for a voting approval...!!??!!??
What the P.N. government did in this case was, that after seeing clearly that he was politically trapped and overcome by the Opposition and some of his own MP`s, he just threw in the towel and conceded defeat, thus evading `majority` problems.. That`s all..
Now on your other comment that "..the likes of me..... etc.. etc..", i can only assure you and your likes, and remind you in case you forgot, that such partisan politics and division, comes ONLY from those in GonziPN Government.
YES.. IT WAS THE GOVERNMENT WHO CREATED THIS CONTROVERCY AND NO ONE ELSE..Sur Mark...!!! The heavy opposition against this project was greatly shown, right from the beginning of its initiation..
In my books, there is NO MERIT due to anybody who spits arrogance and division and then tries to LICK IT...!!!!
TOO LATE NOW DR. GONZI.....!!! THE BATTLE IS LOST.....!!!!!
dusty william
Feb 12th 2009, 13:57
Mark Galea
Kemm teqirdu meta ma jaqblilkomx! Mhux veru Li bis sahha ta Joseph Muscat dan il projett twaqqaf? Allura ghalfejn qed teqret? Gej b hafna diplomazija, fejn tridu.
CFENECH
Feb 12th 2009, 12:33
The residents of Rome would love to have a better transport system, including underground. Why do they not have it? Because under modern Rome, lies the ancient Rome. Just because it is out of sight does not mean that it is not there.
What lies under our Capital City, is part of the Capital itself. In preserving something that can be preserved elsewhere, we were going to destroy part of our heritage. With the added risk of damaging the foundations of the Co-Cathedral, and other buildings around.
Common sense has prevailed? Hardly ! It is the embarassing situation the Government has placed itself into, that saved the day.
Mr. PM please note that you should represent the feelings of the Maltese Nation in general. The outcry against the project was obvious from day 1.
Save yourself another embarassing situation with the Renzo Piano project. Save our coffers some Millions on the future plans of a project which is widely opposed. Remember the Millions already spent on defunct similar projects for City Gate? We Sure dont! We paid for them !!
Congrats go to the Maltese people. Power to the people !
Mark Galea
Feb 12th 2009, 12:12
@ Mike Magri.
The sort of U-turn the government has made in this case is one of strong political responsibility and maturity. It was evident that this was going to cause a division between the people and the government decided against that. Unfortunately the likes of you and of IGalea have nothing else in mind but partisan politics and creating division.
Jo Meli
Feb 12th 2009, 12:09
A face-saver to the present government no more no less !
Had Alfred Sant the same sense and PM Gonzi he would have survived the 1998 crises and been able to show his true colours and not lived the period 1998-2008 as a paranoid.
Jo
Carmel Taliana
Feb 12th 2009, 11:38
How many more years are we eto live in Queens' Victoria times.
Lets built Valletta to a modern standard like the likes of London and New York
and Paris after the war that was not of our instigatation. Lets have Mr Piano redesign
our capital city leading into the 21ST CENTURY.
Mike Magri
Feb 12th 2009, 10:53
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For me and MANY, MANY Others, this Retreat shows nothing else, but the Very Wise and Intelligent Political Strategy with which the Labour Party, under the Leadership of Dr. Joseph Muscat, COULD and WILL ACHIEVE RESULTS for the Benefit of ALL, Maltese and Gozitans alike,.. EVEN from the seats of the Opposition...
Under such a Wise and Intelligent Political and Strategical Move by the Labour Party Opposition, the GonziPN Government had NOTHING... Absolutely NOTHING else to do, BUT, (thank God), to perform yet Another Political U-TURN, and save our beloved City of Valletta, from yet another `a la` PN Government DISTRUCTIVE Project, the likes of City Gate..
The GonziPN Government, Clearly showed an ADMISSAL of litteraly having their backs FLAT to the wall, with the Very Wise and Intelligent Opposition Motion... Consequently, they just had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING else to do do, but to CONCEDE DEFEAT and RETREAT from the debate, which i am More than sure could have Easily caused Gonzi`s PN government fall down...
Obviously,Gonzi & `Friends`, will now TRY their guts out, to TRY to MAKE us ALL BELEIVE, that even them were always(!!!!) against this project....!!!!!!HALLUNA.......MHUX...HEKK...!!!!!!!!!
Haaaa....!!Haaaa...!!!Haaaaa...!!! WHAT A JOKE...........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOOD WORK JOSEPH.......KEEP IT UP.........
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joanna farrugia
Feb 12th 2009, 10:51
i would like to see what the ppl who applauded so much on sun to our dear gonzi who said "jien il gvern u ghandi l-maggoranza u niddecidi jien" ve to say now.may i ask how a few hours before the debate he made a u turn?was he afraid of something?and how come the archbishop was used in this only yesterday?maybe to save gonzi face!!!!
Joe Micallef
Feb 12th 2009, 10:32
@ igalea
Do you have a problem with reading.
I wrote that "Moreover, I am highly suspicious about the vested interests of those suggesting that the foundation should purchase these palazzo's". Try reading it again, take a break and then try reading it again - I am sure you'll get it at the end.
Yes I had a vested interest in seeing that the project gets through! I was interested in making the best use of the treasures WE have without diluting their value which is intrinsically related to the cathedral. Spreading them around Valletta is a non-starter apart form incurring substantial and irreversible architectural, historical, and financial costs to the nation whilst making a fortune for the few.
But from your reading ability of my post I suspect you are referring to other interests. Sorry to disappoint you but I had none.
Joe Micallef
Feb 12th 2009, 10:18
Hats off to the concise reading of this issue by Joe Vella.
What I may add is the the dangerous political nature of Dr. Muscat. A strategist is rarely a statesman although the former generally needs the services of the latter. For a strategist the end justifies the means, whatever the means and ends are!
Dr. Muscat has cleverly used emotional feelings to corner the PN. For an opportunist like him this was as easy as putting butter on bread. The outcome is a considerable blow to the PN and probably the largest one suffered by Dr. Gonzi who has recently inflicted a signgicant one himself on the Labour Party with the nomination of Dr. Abela for president.
Paul Smith
Feb 12th 2009, 10:12
@Gianninu Saliba: If a man who had to use other persons(in this case the Archbishop) to hide his face has 'outsmarted' Dr Joseph Muscat, who time and again managed to make a fool of Gonzi, even though he is considered 'inexperienced' by some who clearly do not understand politics, just shows that you either live in disney land or else you do not know what are you taking about.
lgalea
Feb 12th 2009, 09:59
Joe Micallef
You seem to be one of the few odd ones that were in favour of destroying OUR national heritage? Since you imputed a vested interest to those who worked to stop the destruction of OUR heritage and PROPERTY, did you have a vested interest in the project getting through?
Gianninu Saliba
Yes, checkmate for your Gonezipn and the one who was pulling his strings.
R Aquilina
Feb 12th 2009, 08:26
Still wondering why the Archbishop was involved in this decision.It's no business of his. As far as I am aware St.John's belongs to the State and not the Church.
Joe Micallef
Feb 12th 2009, 08:10
Fundamentalist views have forced their reactionary thinking.
Whilst other nations build huge car parks, subway stations, warehouses underground in their capital cities, and others go as far as building a tunnel under the seabed or whole islands in places once unthought-of, we cannot expand a hole that partly already exists in front of our cathedral.
The irony is that the people against this project are “very strangely” condescending to ruining the historical importance of a number of palazzo's. Moreover, I am highly suspicious about the vested interests of those suggesting that the foundation should purchase these palazzo's, which will as from now acquire a market value at a rate beyond a wildest stagflation.
Their next quest is that the Old theatre site should become the National Theatre. I have seen very few of those for this project at a recent guitar concert by Simon Schembri. The attendance was pathetic – I wonder if they have any feasibility plans in place.
Renzo Piano, beware of any innovation! We're in Malta
joe vella
Feb 12th 2009, 07:39
joseph muscat showed that he is building himself up into a strategist
making really good use of all the pieces in his favour and putting them together to come up with a major coup on lawrence gonzi (whose only way out with some dignity was to use the archbishop's opinion as a diluent!)
and so jpo, ninu and mugliett also got one back at the prime minister (who really made a big mess of it all)
next in line- the Ghadira bypass?
Ronnie Pellegrini
Feb 12th 2009, 06:22
Well don to all those that contributed for this victory. Special thanks goes to Joseph Muscat and the Labour Parliamentary Group.
The Archbishop was used to save the face of Dr. Lawrence Gonzi.
Mark VellaBardon
Feb 11th 2009, 23:44
I never noticed that there was any division in the country over this project. The only evidence was that of unanimous uproar that any such project was ever proposed. Gladly, common sense prevailed. The fact that EU provides millions of Euros for anything like this does not justify it's implementation. Good to see the prime mInsiter on the side of the people rather than on that of bullying speculatiors. Best wishes to all men (and women) of goodwill
Gerald Fenech
Feb 11th 2009, 23:14
Finally they saw sense. Now for the Opera House site next!
Gianninu Saliba
Feb 11th 2009, 22:31
Dear Joseph, I sorry but this was a "Check Mate" by Prime Minister Gonzi. Again he outsmarted you. Again he showed that he can unite his MPs behind him. Again he showed your immaturity. Again he gave the PL an knock out blow. But don't worry, Joseph, in six years time you will make a better Leader of Opposition. But please do not loose again the elections that will take place in nine years time. Otherwise you will end up a back bencher... like Mintoff when he 'los't the 1981 elections, like KMB when he lost two elections in a row and like AS when he lost three elections (and a referendum) in a row. Please, dear Joseph, do not bank on them giving three chances like they gave Fredu.
lgalea
Feb 11th 2009, 22:17
R Agius
Yes. A landmark like the old Opera House, this time being St John's co-Cathedral.
Destroyed not by enemy action, but by our own Government and its foundation to its foundations.
Charles Sammut
Agree with you
Oscar Cassar
Whatever the equipment used, it would have endangered OUR national heritage. As for losing eu funds, it is better to lose them than to have another "Opera House", this time destroyed by our own Gonezipn. And by the way, eu funds are some of our money that we send to the eu (€153,400 DAILY) being given back to be spent with all strings attached.
S Cassar, J.Tonna, GiovDeMartino, J Farrugia, J Busuttil, Jeff Inguanez, Mario Pace, David Meilak, G . Mangion, Kevin Camilleri, Kevin Borg,
Min huma l-membri tal-fondazzjoni? Mhux nofshom maħtura minn Gonezipn? U mhux Gonezipn kien jaqbel mal-proġett? Ħalluna tridu?
Mike Farrugia As if!
Sandro Galea Dawk kollha li wrew li huma kontra SALVAW il-WIRT KUTURALI TAGĦNA u tkellmu f'isimna wkoll.
MEMBRI TAL-FUNDAZZJONI, JEKK BAQGHALKOM QATRA ŻEJT F'WICCKOM IRRIŻENJAW.
Unhappy faces tonight in Brussels
Dear Archbishop, can you now please intervene and stop the Gozo cemetery?
M.Buhagiar
Feb 11th 2009, 22:16
This is a CLEAR victory for the PL which signifies a CLEAR victory for the whole NATION!!!
I said it once and I`ll say it again- Your ship is sinking fast Dear Gonz !!!! And HOW!!!!
Ivan Attard
Feb 11th 2009, 22:05
Very good anticipation of a humiliation in Parliament by Gonzi.
...and it's now MGR Philip Calleja's turn to explain!
What a convenient excuse that the project was discarded because of the 'people's' heartbreak at being divided!
R Agius
Feb 11th 2009, 21:54
@James Tyrrell
People like you and the FAA are unwilling to let due process take its course. There was no EIA and no full assessments as to the structural damage that could have been sustained. Instead the FAA took up on itself to shove their opinion down the throats to the whole population. Collecting 1,500 signatures does not constitute "the majority of the Maltese". So on what basis do you conclude that the FAA represented the majority of the Maltese and tourists? 1,500 signatures is less than 1% of the population - and we haven't started adding in the tourists like yourself.
Just because a project is not to your liking or taste does not of itself nullify the sensibility of the project. You are entitled to your opinion as am I and I re-iterate that this is indeed a missed opportunity. We have only proven that we are unable to have a sensible and dispassionate discussion on the subject. If due process were allowed to take its course then we would have had an informed decision instead of the subjective one we now have. I for one trust our institutions.
Mario Vella
Feb 11th 2009, 21:53
GVERN B DIREZZJONI WAHDA - GHALL GOL HAJT !!
Paul Borg
Feb 11th 2009, 21:51
......if parliament was to take the vote regarding the issue mentioned and the government was defeated it would not have meant that the government had to resign...........
The government is only bound to reseign when it is defeated on a vote of confidence...
Cya
John Carmel Navarro
Feb 11th 2009, 21:45
How wonderful common sense has prevailed at long last faith restored in our Church, long may St John Co-Cathedral stand. Now the foundation should try and find a way the Tapestries’ could hang where they where originally made for and belong inside the cathedral. For a very small fraction of the proposed expenditure I am sure a way can be found to do this whilst preserving these amazing works of art. Mgr Philip Calleja and the foundation in hinesight must feel relieved as I am sure they realize now that in good faith they were trying to build a monster which would have destroyed them. Well done prime MInster and Archbishop.
Denis Bartolo
Feb 11th 2009, 21:13
What wonderfull news!!!!
Good sense allways prevails.
All you knights may now once again rest in peace.
apgrech
Feb 11th 2009, 20:50
@ Sandro Galea - the Tapestries should be displayed in the place where they were made to be displayed - in the Cathedral itself.
The decision to put them somewhere else is simply a naive one.
N. Gerada
Feb 11th 2009, 20:49
Whilst I welcome decision, without being pessimistic, this is not a sort of VICTORY'.
It's just the fact that the 'GENERAL', knowing that some of his 'LEAUTENANTS' were not going to 'FIGHT' on his side', decided not to go for 'WAR' to save his face. (all metaphorically speaking).
Byron Camilleri
Feb 11th 2009, 20:48
Gonzi only moved to stop the project, not to be defeated in parliament.
Malta deserves a better Prime Minister!
C. Scerri
Feb 11th 2009, 20:47
The 14M Euros are part of the structural funds, as such there is probably already a number of projects that were put on the reserve list by the Project selection committee (independent of government and answerable to the EU). These projects shall now benefit from this money.
EU structural funds can only be lost if we do not succeed in utlising all by 2013 (in fact by 2015).
James A. Tyrrell
Feb 11th 2009, 20:38
@R Agius and Sandro Galea. The FAA may not speak for you two but they certainly speak for the majority of Maltese people and tourists like myself. You call yourself art lovers and yet you think it’s a good idea to put the structural integrity of the Co-Cathedral at risk in order to carry out this crazy project. When the tapestries were given to the Co-Cathedral where they meant to be put in an underground chamber? When the Knights were buried in the courtyard did someone think it would be a good idea in the future to stick souvenir shops and ticketing booths on their graves?
This was one of the stupidest ideas anyone has ever come up with and I can only say thank God for the FAA and Astrid Vella for bringing the matter to the public’s attention and tirelessly fighting to have the project stopped. These people truly care about their country unlike some.
Albert Gauci Cunningham
Feb 11th 2009, 20:37
To all those who love art and admire this jewel of a cathedral-------Malta will not lose funds because of what happened today. The funds will just not be used for this particular project and will therefore be used for another Project which could after all be the one F.A.A has suggested and therefore that a nearby palazzo is restored and the tapestries could be left and exhibited there. This would not only be cheaper but would also serve as further restoration of dilapidated buildings in the capital!!
The point the majority have been making is that there is an alternative to the Foundation's (approved by Dr.Gonzi) plans and the authorities should take heed of them!!
A. Pace Gouder
Feb 11th 2009, 20:25
What a relief to hear the news. ..... At last COMMON SENSE has prevailed. I just could'nt accept that ridiculous, senseless ,five storey deep(?) Underground Museum housing a PRICELESS collection of FLEMISH TAPESTRIES. Cannot believe we have people around who come up with such BRIGHT IDEAS. Makes me think of the GOLD in the vaults of FORT KNOX U.S.A.
I'm sure the money budgeted would be used to buy Property ,as close as possible, that can be converted into a stately Museum. Congrets. & Thanks to all contributers regarding this cause.
frank vella
Feb 11th 2009, 20:19
common sense prevailed!
Joseph Zammit
Feb 11th 2009, 20:12
@ Anthony Brincat
Last August I wrote a letter to the St. John's Co-Cathedral Foundation wherein I made the same suggestion, exactly like yours.
Today I would like to add the adjoining historical building housing the Public Registry, formerly known as the Municipal Palace.
These two buildings taken together, should provide more then ample space wherein to house and exhibit the priceless tapestries.
lesley kreupl
Feb 11th 2009, 20:07
The kudus for this wonderful news must go to Astrid and her team, not to the politicians and priests who got cold feet!
Well done Astrid, we are behind you all the way!
martin brincat
Feb 11th 2009, 20:01
Biex giet solvuta l-problema dwar it-thaffir tal-hofra quddiem San Gwann kellhu jintervjeni l-Arcisqof, ghalhekk nixtieq nitlob lill-Arcisqof biex jerga jintervjeni ma Dr.Austin Gatt biex isalva l-hobza ta kull jum ta' 1500 familja li ghejxien taghom jigi mis-servizzi fit-trasport publiku
Enzo Caruana
Feb 11th 2009, 19:59
Our heartfelt thanks go to all those who stood up against this project. Congratulations to Joseph Muscat and the Labour Party for forcing the Nationalist government to back down and saved St John's Cathedral and Valletta from an obscene permanent disfigurement.
After his public outburst against Labour's motion, Mons Philip Calleja has only one honourable way out. Apologise and resign
a attard
Feb 11th 2009, 19:54
I don’t think the 14 million Euros will be lost but spent better else where.......I was not informed much about the subject but I believe there are more urgent priorities like restoration work than building a museum underground.....what about all the decaying buildings with their ample space that need urgent attention? – these 14 million Euros do not qualify for such?
L Aquilina
Feb 11th 2009, 19:53
John Farrugia - you have a short memory indeed!! U-turns seem to be the prerogative of all politicians in this country... need I remind you about EU Membership?? That was more than a chicken, it was egg all over some people's faces.
R Agius
Feb 11th 2009, 19:47
What a pity! Here was an opportunity to create a landmark - and we fluffed it! We have shown just how conservative and shortsighted we really are! I am sure that when the Louvre pyramid/underground extension was proposed there must have been a massive outcry. The visionaries proceeded and the Louvre has indeed been enhanced by the smart way in which a modern structure was incorporated into a heritage site.
I can now see a groundswell of opinion aimed squarely at rebuilding the Opera House - as it was! If and when, God forbid, we build a tribute to a bygone era for a very select few I would love to see the egg on face as night after night of opera draw abysmal audiences.....
Grow up Malta and mature in your outlook! God help Renzo Piano!
Ethelbert Schembri
Feb 11th 2009, 19:45
Just to make it clear... Dr Gonzi was afraid to discuss this issue in parliament because a vote was to follow and he knows that he wasn’t in a position to pass it, from simple mathematics he was 2 votes short !!
So that is why he dropped it before the discussion just because he was afraid and not because he is changing the way of doing politics, Dr Muscat is doing all the difference !!!
So thanks again Dr Muscat and to all that contributed.
Sandro Galea
Feb 11th 2009, 19:41
How sad ...
Malta had an opportunity to display in a professional museum the wonderful world class collection of Rubens’ tapestries. And now this opportunity has been lost.
Neither the Leader of the Opposition nor the leader of the FAA speak for many of us normal art loving citizens who were excited with this project. It is a shame that the project has been withdrawn by the Foundation before all the studies were done. The Leader of the Opposition and the FAA have managed to short-circuit the normal planning process. How sad ...
While I admire the leadership of the Prime Minister and the Archbishop in recognising that St. John’s Cathedral had become a source of division in our society, I sincerely hope and pray that a suitable alternative is found with does justice to the vision of the St. John’s Co-Cathedral Foundation.
Rubens’ tapestries are a world class collection that deserves a world class museum.
Gerard Cassar
Feb 11th 2009, 19:32
The solution was very simple defeat in Parliament or do away with the project and let RCC to chew the cad, Gonzi only merit, and what a merit, was to surrender and avoid defeat. An advice: "tardare si scappare no..."
Gonzi had decided to present an amendment to the L.P. motion to try and avoid a vote against, apparently it was safer to shelf the project, and kneel before the Archbishop as an obedient catholic to minimise the personal pride.
A museum of tapestries under ground with all the dust and uncontrolled humidity and artificial lighting all along. What a project? The Louvre Pyramid leads you underground but to visit the museum proper you have to go upstairs.
Gonzi preferred not to take the risk. After all it's a money bill worth over 10 million Euros.
Had the project been proceeded with it would have taken a lot of time digging five stories down and then roof it strong enough to permit traffic over it in the centre of Valletta. A project in Maltese called “gennata” madness.
c.t. busuttil
Feb 11th 2009, 19:31
Thank you FAA , all supporters and other players. It looks like we are living in a democracy. This is the way to go. The nation is united.
Ray Sultana
Feb 11th 2009, 19:12
A sensible decision. Great news indeed!!
carmel callus
Feb 11th 2009, 18:57
Joeffrey Pullicino Orlando should have also expressed his disgust at the proposed development at Mistra! That apart, I agree that the decision taken by the PM and the Archbishop is one in the right direction. Let me now suggest that Parliament and the AG's office should be moved to the old opera house site, the armoury at the Palace should be moved back to the floor now housing Parliament, and the armoury should be used instead to exhibit the tapestries for which a proper place could not be found at St John's Co Cathdral.
Joseph Camilleri
Feb 11th 2009, 18:56
To all those trying to give this a partisan political slant please understand you are doing a great disservice towards our country. It's a great shame on all those who are unable to debate a national issue without concluding that the PN or LP is great or useless.
Grow up.
j borg
Feb 11th 2009, 18:56
If the foundation is made from Government and church members why should the prime minister and the archbishop agree that the project should not go ahead when these are being represented on the Foundation board? Am I missing something? I think all the foundation members should resign en bloc..they are a worthless bunch.
A. Camilleri
Feb 11th 2009, 18:51
Isn´t this a GonziPN U-TURN????????????????????????
John Debattista
Feb 11th 2009, 18:51
MGR Philip Calleja should resign from his Post. and apologize for this Stupid Project.
Mark Scerri
Feb 11th 2009, 18:49
Gvern bla direzzjoni
Jipproponi haga u f kemm ili nghidlek iddur lura
Nixtieq nifrah lil PL u certu NGO's li rnexxilhom iwaqqfu dall progett daqshekk bla sens
M.Buhagiar
Feb 11th 2009, 18:47
" The Prime Minister and the Archbishop have agreed to recommend to the St John's Co-Cathedral Foundation to drop the proposed underground extension of St John's Co-Cathedral Museum, the DOI said this afternoon "
You know why the PM had to agree? He had to agree not because common sense prevailed but because today at the Dar Centrali HALF of the PN parliamentry group were against!!!!
I challenge any PN elf to prove me wrong!!!
Anke ta MIEGHU daru KONTRIH !!!
Prosit Joseph!!!!!!
malcolm seychell
Feb 11th 2009, 18:42
Prosit to all those involved in stopping this madness.
Mike Farrugia
Feb 11th 2009, 18:42
Although I am not a PN sympathizer, I must admit that I appreciate how issues are dealt by Dr. Gonzi. When it is evident that the general public is against an issue, Dr. Gonzi finds no difficulty in changing his decision. Unlike what happens in the PL. Remember the reception class which everyone was against? Remember Dr. George Abela whom everyone was in favour of?
Now I hope that Dr. Gonzi listens to the public again and change his opinion about shifting parliament to the opera house.
Well done PN.
Kevin Borg
Feb 11th 2009, 18:41
@ Freddie Vella
If after discussing in a civilised manner someone changes his opinion through the persuasion of others is for you a sign of weakness than its seems like you do not know what you are talking about and your argument is as petty as it sounds. It takes a strong person to change his view on an issue, after all you should know better.
mario borg
Feb 11th 2009, 18:37
Better lose 14 million euros than God knows the damage which would have been done to the cathedral world heritage. Just imagine the vibrations caused by excavations and cracks developing in the Preti ceiling.
Thank you God for stopping this maddness.
Can the 14m euros be used for other restoration works??
Arthur Ellul
Feb 11th 2009, 18:36
Gentlemen,
Now sit down and talk, look the way forward, and find the way so that these things will never happen again in our beloved island, full of history, full of heritage, the world's envy.
Kevin Camilleri
Feb 11th 2009, 18:32
This decision shows that most of the population still wear blinkers and cannot look belong their nose. Having the cathedral museaum would have been a marvellous.
Joseph Brincat
Feb 11th 2009, 18:31
I must congratulate all involved in stopping this senseless project.
But I do not have to warn the NGO's that since those 14 million euros might be lost, they should be more vigilant because another "BIG" project might be proposed.
Tinsewx : Bil-ghatx il-gawwi.
Franco Farrugia
Feb 11th 2009, 18:30
Why, a weak government?
Why, a weak prime minister?
I have it in writing, that all along, the PM was not in favour of this project, and yet, he said nothing about it and allowed the project to take its course.
I HAVE IT IN WRITING!
But I will divulge nothing without his approval.
Mario Bonnici
Feb 11th 2009, 18:29
Prime Minister Gonzi had no choice. Everyone was against the project, including some of his MP's.
The opposition to the project was effective.
S Hargreaves
Feb 11th 2009, 18:29
Instead of politicising can't we just say that common sense prevailed?.
Just the same as it will for the rest of the major issues facing us right now, which include,Electricity/Water bills,Opera versus parliament, Same Sex Issues etc.
Government for the People and by the People is a grand ideal which ought to be put into practice more often.
Maria Falzon
Feb 11th 2009, 18:28
Things to think about: The timing of all this is questionable. This only shows that we have a powerless prime minister that constantly has to retract on decisions he takes. This is not good for the country, as it is extremely evident that Gonzi was afraid of facing the vote in parliament this evening. Very sad situation indeed for Dr. Gonzi.
What worries me also is that the church is being used for political purposes. This is shameful for Dr. Gonzi. Given the scenario, it is simply incorrect for the Archbishop to be used as an eleventh' hour playing card. This issue has been going on for months, and in a decent democratic world, these "agreements" do not happen just a few hours before a vote in parliament. Shame on Dr. Gonzi for implicating the church in political issues like these. These gestures are only emphasizing the weakness you are finding your self in trying to govern a country.
R Axisa
Feb 11th 2009, 18:27
The funds earmarked by the EU for this project should be transferred for the TA QALI project which had to be abondoned. Makes more sense and a lot of people would be more than happy if this is approved by the EU. (Barra minnhekk, kulhadd jigbor giehu, kemm il-gvern li abbanduna l-progett ta' TA Qali, u kemm l-EU li ma pprovdietx il-fondi).
L.Grima
Feb 11th 2009, 18:27
Finally, a sane decision...even though the debate should not have been so protracted and so divisive.Let's hope that a good portion of the funds earmarked for this project can now be diverted to restore Valletta to its former glory...and please let's get on with it now.
E. Azzopardi
Feb 11th 2009, 18:27
So after wasting so much time (yes this time has been wasted) we drop the whole thing. This should have never arisen in the first place. This and the Old Theatre are not priorities at the moment. There are so many more important things to tackle . And as many are saying, the worst is not over yet. But when did we ever get our priorities right in this country?
N Formosa
Feb 11th 2009, 18:24
keeps showing the integrity of our Prime Minister... With him we can have our minds at rest.. Well done Prim Minister.. Keep it up... You are a true politician... keep leading the way...let others follow...
PETER VELLA
Feb 11th 2009, 18:23
John Bundy ghadu kif bidel isem id diska tieghu stess :
GVERN TAL MICKEY MOUSE
T Abela
Feb 11th 2009, 18:18
X'farsa GonziPN. X tahsbu li l poplu ghadu beccun. b'min tahsbu qed tghaddu z zmien. Mhux kullhadd jaf ghal irtirajtu Dr Gonzi. Il-Gvern ta minoranza tieghek ma kellux il maggoranza fil parlament . punto e basta. Dik l-unika raguni u xejn aktar. Prosit kullhadd minbarra GonziPN. ma kellikx triq ohra.
ethelbert Schembri
Feb 11th 2009, 18:16
Just to make it clear... Dr Gonzi was afraid to discuss this issue in parliament because a vote was to follow and he knows that he wasn’t in a position to pass it, from simple mathematics he was 2 votes short !!
So that is why he dropped it before the discussion just because he was afraid and not because he is changing the way of doing politics, Dr Muscat is doing all the difference !!!
So thanks again Dr Muscat and to all that contributed.
GiovDeMartino
Feb 11th 2009, 18:15
Weak PM and weak government. Agreed BUT PRIME MINISTER AND GOVERNMENT.
freddie vella
Feb 11th 2009, 18:10
Weak prime minister - weak government.
b Vella
Feb 11th 2009, 18:10
A big U TURN from Gonzi...............Prosit Dr Muscat and PL!!!!!!!
G . Mangion
Feb 11th 2009, 18:09
Welldone Dr Gonzi Prime Minister Of Malta The Most Mature of All.
GOD Bless You.
S. Caruana
Feb 11th 2009, 18:08
Well done for having this project dropped! At least we ahve some common sense prevailing and no bull-dozing any more.
May i congratulate first of all JPO, Ninu Zammit and Joseph Muscat and all NGOs.
Also the Archbishop and PM (which although not directly their remit had common sense prevail)!
Now, i sincerely hope that whoi was instrumental in obtaining such a wonderful sum for this project, OBTAINS SIMILAR LARGE FUNDS FOR MUCH NEEDED PROJECTS!
No ego boosts please, just simple and plain projects for the common good of the people
Mario Pace
Feb 11th 2009, 18:02
Good news indeed. Pity that the 14 million Euro earmarked for this project by the EU will now probably be lost.
David Meilak
Feb 11th 2009, 18:01
So this project kicked up a controversy...........and may I ask 'What's the big deal?' I laugh but with pride as with PN in government there are always controversies because of projects in hand, and you know why? Cause its always a PN government that plans projects such as specific 'SMALL' projects which included, a new power station, a new telephone system, a new airport, a new hospital, the whole University, road infrastructure, regeneration of grand harbour, Smart City etc, etc, etc,
A non controversial government is a dead government..............PN in governent means an ever increasing stream of projects and opportunities for the people. Keep it up Dr. Gonzi
Mark Piscopo
Feb 11th 2009, 17:59
@Joseph Agius
Your comment really make me laugh
Donavan Galea
Feb 11th 2009, 17:59
Well done to the Opposition!!! The earthquake is rattling and has shaked up Dr Gonzi......... The Prime Minister had NO other alternative but swallow what has said a week ago since he knew that with this motion there were quite a number of PN backbenchers in favour of it and hence against the project!!
Keep on going strong Dr Muscat!!! Well done!!
Paul Caruana
Feb 11th 2009, 17:58
Well that is good news! Once the dust settles (metaphorically speaking of course), let us identify some abandoned building(s), in valletta itself, where the proposed museum extension can be located after the appropiate rehabilitation works are carried out. From what I can gather, money, especially EU sourced, is truly not a problem in this case.
Jeff Inguanez
Feb 11th 2009, 17:56
WHAT A SAD DAY FOR A COUNTRY THAT HAS BECOME
A COUNTRY OF VETOES.
THE WINNERS IN MALTA OF 2009 ARE NOT THOSE WHO PROPOSE
BUT THOSE WHO OPPOSE.
A SAD DAY INDEED
.
Dr EMMY BEZZINA, B.A.,LL.D.S.Th.
Feb 11th 2009, 17:54
THIS IS THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE AT WORK - A SHINING EXAMPLE OF THE DEDICATION OF ONE PERSON ASTRID VELLA ABLY ASSISTED BY MADAME CREMONA TO CONVEY THROUGH INTENSIVE INVESTIGATIVE DETECTIVE WORK THE HORRIDNESS OF WHAT WAS ABOUT TO BE CARRIED ON.
THE MINORITY GOVERNMENT HAD NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE AS THE OPPOSITION WAS ABOUT TO COME ON VERY HEAVILY AGAINST THE HEINIOUSNESS THAT WAS ABOUT TO BE PERPETRATED....THE ARCHBISHOP HAD TO OBLIGE AS FOR THE LIBERAL PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY A MONSEIGNEUR IS NO MORE THAN A MAN IN A COLOURED CLOTH:WHAT NOW IS TO HAPPEN ?
THE MEMBERS OF THE FOUNDATION WITHOUT EXCEPTION HAVE TO RESIGN EN BLOC AS THEY WERE BETRAYING THE INTERESTS OF OUR COUNTRY AND HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR DEAR ASTRID & HER DILIGENT TEAM THIS SCANDAL WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN UNEARTHED. I AM AWARE THAT ASTRID WAS SPENDING WHOLE DAYS TO THIS MAMMOTH TASK SLEEPING AT TIMES ONLY 1 HOUR A DAY - THE TIMES DOUBLE PAGE YESTERDAY WAS DUE TO HER EFFORTS COLLECTING PETITIONS AND BETWEEN €5 TO €10 TO PAY FOR THE VERY EXPENSIVE ADVERT.WELL DONE ASTRID...I KNOW YOU ARE SNIFFING ON SOMETHING ELSE - WE WILL HELP .
B Sant
Feb 11th 2009, 17:54
there you are mr boss - the people's say is final - no matter who runs this country - let those who want to understand undesrtand
John Farrugia
Feb 11th 2009, 17:54
ha ha ha
gvern li jkollhu jibla kliemu stess
Prosit Joseph , Jeffrey il politika taghkom qed twassal dall pajjiz ximkien
Dall gvern beza jiehu vot fuqu stess
Gonzi = Chicken
J Busuttil
Feb 11th 2009, 17:53
Those Labour people who are writing about Gonzi 'being arrogant' did not know what they are saying. It had been arrogant if the MLP motion was not brought before Parliament. The GovT could have done this as Labour did many a time under Mintoff's administration. And another thing is that Gonzi is a very wise man. He went one step backward and not like Alfred Sant's on Mintoff in 1997-1998 when he took all the Labour Party down with him. Joe Muscat did nothing spectacular. After all it was FAA and JPO who first objected to the project and not the MLP. What the MLP did was jump on the bandwagon.
T Mifsud
Feb 11th 2009, 17:50
What are you all going on about Joseph Muscat if he was nothing but a follower, an opportunist taking political advantage when he saw the Maltese as a people apolitical voicing against the project? He is the one who politicised it! Look at you down here praising Joseph Muscat for jumping the badwagon doing exactly bhan-naghag ta Bendu by inciting people against the government when he feels there is sentiment against it!
You should praise none other than FAA Astrid Vella and the PM for taking a very bold decision to recommend against the project.
Be a bit mature and for once view this discussion as a non political one. After all ALL parties, FAA, Church, government and opposition are doing this discussion for the good of Malta and its people!
g.c.Forte
Feb 11th 2009, 17:50
Again it is a BIG " U " TURN..............the next please...........which one now ? the "Wat / Elec tariffs" or Bieb il Belt bit teatru b`kollox, and Dr. Austin Gatt ( P.M. two) always keep in mind that only one seat you have more in parliament and not five like you use to say.,and please tell Dr. Gonzi P.N. to... respect not just members of the opposition, but also the P.N.members of parliament, and must try to consult with them, because although you won the election by the motto GONZI P.N. that doesn`t make you superman.
D Gauci
Feb 11th 2009, 17:49
I hope that there won't be anyone who thinks that Gonzi was really worried about dividing the people. I think he was more worried about dividing the PN!!!
apgrech
Feb 11th 2009, 17:49
Seeing that some of his own people would have voted against the government, Gonzi decided to "drop" the issue only because he was afraid he'd be facing an election if he didn't.
Dahq fil-wicc galore.
rene joseph
Feb 11th 2009, 17:49
as long as the church is not happy ...
J Farrugia
Feb 11th 2009, 17:46
@ R Axisa - thabbilx mohhok sinjur. Il-PN mhux l-MLP. Mhux ser jaqa' fuq hmerijiet. Il-Hames snin irid jaghmel ghax hekk iddecieda l-poplu (li mhux imbeccilli kif jaghmlu xi hadd li rrizenja u rega dahal). Mal-PN ir-raguni biss tirbah u xejn iktar. U hemm liberta shiha u hadd mhu traditur bhal m'hemm fir-rangi tal-MLP.
@ emmanuel Zammit - jekk ghandek soluzzjonijeit ahjar, ersaq il quddiem la inti bravu iktar minn min huwa kapaci u idejh sodi. Alla hares il-poplu fada lil MLP fil-gvern ghax kieku ninsabu ottu. Sa nahr il-hadd stess f'artiklu li kiteb Alfred Sant ghadu jwerzaq bis-sahta. negattivizmu bazwi. Jekk il-poplu ser jibqa jkun negattiv tistennewx li l-ekonomiji dinjin ser jirpiljaw. Minkejja li l-President Amerikan tefa' 800 BILJUN dollari f'ghajnuna. xorta s-swieq baqghu fejn kienu. Ghax hadd ma jrid ikun ottimist.
Christine Frendo
Feb 11th 2009, 17:45
The only truth is that if Joseph Muscat had not brought forward the motion to oppose this project in Parliament, the Government would not have listened to the NGO's, Astrid and friends claiming the potential danger of this project. GonziPN new about the project since 2006 and kept everything under the carpet.
Why did the government wait for two weeks to oppose to the project instead of agreeing with the PL two weeks ago when the motion was originally forwarded in Parliament by the PL?
Why did Gonzi require the aid of the Archbishop to wash his hands of this another pudding he was in?
How come MGR Philip Calleja lost all his arguments now?
What really made him change his opinion about the project?
Why should this project be considered as one that mattered for national unity, when the PL, NGO's, the Church and the country was against and only Gonzi was in favour? Who is divisive then?
Thankyou PL
Christine Frendo
St. Julians
Joseph Galea
Feb 11th 2009, 17:45
Why must everything in this island of ours be politicised?
From the onset there were more good arguments against this project than in favour and finally good sense prevailed. Let's forget about it now and move on. Unfortunately, I suspect that the same will continue with everything else.
g.scerri
Feb 11th 2009, 17:44
I think the real lesson is that a government with a slim majority is the citizens' best friend. A lesson that needs to be taken to heart in tribal Malta.
P.Muscat
Feb 11th 2009, 17:44
This is what happens when we don't get a serious administration. Gonzi did not consult his fellow MP's ( amongst them periti) he did not consult the Church, he did not consult the NGO's, he did not consult Parliament ! Obviously the weak link points to Dr Lawrence Gonzi! In the 21 century, one cannot govern a free and democratic country as if this was own's personal fief. This is the old way of doing politics. No wonder no one can find a clue as to the electricity bills, the City Gate and the Opera House and now the Co-Cathedral white elephant!
Mike Gatt
Feb 11th 2009, 17:42
Well done for a decision taken after common sense and maturity prevailed. What will happen to the EU funds now? Will they still be given to the Cathedral Foundation? Will they be lost or used for something else? Could they be used for other projects such as the Opera House site or the discontinued Ta' Qali Crafts Village project?
GiovDeMartino
Feb 11th 2009, 17:39
Din bhal tal-glekk: jigbru u jaqlaghha; ma jigbrux u...jaqlaghha wkoll.
J. Borg
Feb 11th 2009, 17:39
Well all's wellthat ends well....
now how about hearing the same thing about
Ramla il-Hamra
Ta' Cenc
Gozo Airstrip
Ghadira road
Xemxija towers
St. Paul's Bay yacht marina
...............
V Fenech
Feb 11th 2009, 17:38
@ Joseph Agius
Are you trying to turn our cannons onto the PL even in this one?!
Can't you recognise that this project led Gonzi to face a dead end? Do you really think that Gonzi puts the National Interest before the Party's interest? The extension was dropped for the single reason that the Nationalist members of Parliament are not willing to continue being puppets moved from Dar Malta!
Ta' l-anqas anke l-Kleru issa konxju ta' xi jsarraf il-Partit Nazzjonalista. U kif diga' ghedt...Gonzi beza mill-mozzjoni tal-Partit Laburista. Mela issa m'għadux jgħid li jien il-PM u jien niddeċiedi. Għaliex ma baqax jinsisti li jsir il-proġett kif għamlu fil-bidu?
Konsistenza? Leeeeee
U-turn? Ijaaaaaa
Oscar Cassar
Feb 11th 2009, 17:37
Unfortunately this may be the case that the cultural heritage of our island ‘lost’ in this decision, as the project may have not been properly evaluated and most of the criticism was instigated by other agonistic or opportunistic aptitudes from some members of parliament on both sides. If that was the case, as I am sincerely convinced it was, we must be ashamed of our selves as Maltese, that we try to reach our political ambitions by blocking cultural projects (not project).
J.Tonna
Feb 11th 2009, 17:32
NOW THAT WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT THAT LISTENS TO US CITIZENS IS BEING CRITICISED JUST THE SAME.
SHOULD WE GO BACK TO THE TIMES WHENWHAT THE PM DECIDES IS SACRED AND NEVER TO BE REVIEWED?
A.Attard
Feb 11th 2009, 17:31
@joseph aguis
gonzi had to drop the project because of the split he has in the PN!!! GonziPN going down fast rate!
P.Cassar
Feb 11th 2009, 17:29
WITH THE SAME REASONING GONZI SHOULD DO AWAY WITH;
THE WATER/ELEC BILLS
THE OPERA HOUSE PROJECT
AND PLEASE GROW UP AND STOP SOUNDING REDICULOUS WHEN YOU SAY THAT LABOUR GIVES YOU ONLY WRONG ADVICE OR DOES UTURNS
Joseph Schembri
Feb 11th 2009, 17:27
Heartfelt Congrats to Astrid Vella and all at Flimkien Ghal Ambjent Ahjar! Now is the time for a big membership drive Astrid!
michael De GAbriele
Feb 11th 2009, 17:27
another win for Joseph Muscat !!
Albert Gauci Cunningham
Feb 11th 2009, 17:23
I also have thanks for Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando who had a atrong hand behind what happened today!!
With regards to the PN there is little to say apart from the fact that the PN has become a couldron of people with different interests pulling different ropes. This project should have been a non-starter so the OPM should never have approved the funds, so the PM should not have remained silent but did as Joseph muscat did and take the side of honest citizens of this country. Gonzi had no other choice, he had to avoid a potentially embarassing moment for his Party which is divided between those who care and those who couldn't give a hoot about what the people want!!
"Is-Sewwa jirbah zgur"-----Eddie fenech Adami
..........and how right he was!!!
eddie bonello
Feb 11th 2009, 17:23
Why did the Archbishop leave to such a late date to express his disagreement with the proposed extension and leave it to just before parlaiment was due to debate the Opposition motion urging the Gov. to withdraw its support for the project??????
emmanuel zammit
Feb 11th 2009, 17:21
common sense!!!....at last in something!!......there are much more important things the goverment should do!!!.....Tarzna,,,,,,,,ST........ECC..
Joseph Agius
Feb 11th 2009, 17:19
seems the new style of politics is on Dr Gonzi's side while everyone is still waiting for the earthquake on the PL side.
Oscar Cassar
Feb 11th 2009, 17:17
@ Joseph Vella Bondin
What do you mean exactly by the re-examination of the Opera House site project ??? Do you mean other features on TV stations, PR on face book etc.. etc.. and after months of discussions we remain with a Royal parking area or worse at the main (Garage) entrance of our capital City ???
R Axisa
Feb 11th 2009, 17:14
@S Cassar
Iftah ghajnejk u nehhi l-ghamad - il-gvern mar lura mill-progett MHUX GHAX KIEN QED JIFRED LILL-POPLU, IZDA GHAX KIEN QED JIFRED LILL-MEMBRI PARLAMENTARI TAL-PN. Kienet haga ovvja x'kien se jigri l-lejla fil-parlament li kieku baqa kollox kif kien u giet ipprezentata l-mozzjoni min-naha tal-oppozizzjoni.
Marco Cremona
Feb 11th 2009, 17:13
well done to all those who helped bring this absurd project to a premature end. First and foremost, Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando who, despite all odds, had the guts to bring the matter for discussion in Parliament. Secondly, the tireless and resolute Astrid Vella who left no stone unturned in presenting the facts as they are. And thirdly, the Archbishop who took the initiative to propose to the Prime Minister to drop the project.
I cannot congratulate the PM for backing down.......as in the case of the Xaghra l-Hamra golf course Gonzi was FORCED to back down because of determined public opposition. If there were no public opposition, the project would have continued as if nothing were and with Gonzi's blessing.
There are a lot of lessons to be learnt here. Why does it have to be the NGOs to bring such issues to the fore? Why do the NGOs have to be so vigilant? What administrative structures are in place to ensure that the EU funds will be well spent and that only deserving projects get funded? where is the regulator who should ensure that applications for such projects are not even considered in the first place?
Nowhere it seems.
Kelly Attard
Feb 11th 2009, 17:12
Knowing that the situation could have been critical in Parliament, Dr. Gonzi had to submit to PL's motion to stop the project that put St. Johns Cathedral at risk. Dr. Gonzi must be really thankful to the Archbishop. Dr. Joseph Muscat really showed that the PL is there to savegaurd the interests of the majority. Imagine what this guy can do if he was in the rein of power. I'm pretty sure that our country is in dire straights and needs a change. Thankyou Dr. Joseph Muscat. Keep fighting against this arrogant government of Dr. Gonzi. This is a sign of relief for Maltese politics.
S.Schembri
Feb 11th 2009, 17:12
Jidher bic-car li Joseph Muscat qieghed imexxi l-quddiem issues li l-gvern jorqod fuqhom. Dr. Gonzi ma kellux triq ohra illi jaghraf dak li qal Joseph Muscat u ghat-tieni darba kellu jaghti widen u jirtira proposti bazwijin.
Wara il-kontijiet tad-dawl u l-ilma grazzi ghal jospeh muscat il poplu ha jkun qieghed jifranka spejjez kbar min butu u dawn il flus issa jistghu jigu utilizzati ghal skopijiet aktar importanti. Is-Sittax il miljn ewro li kien sa jonfoq ghandu jara kif ha jgib il quddiem is sitwazzjoni ekonomika.
Dawn huwa iz zmien li l-poplu jinduna bin nuqqas ta pjannar ta gvern inefficjenti. wasal iz zmien biex il poplu jifhem kemm min qighed suppost imexxih qieghed iwasslu fit triq il hazina u mnalla hawn Persuna li kapaci taghraf it-tajjeb mill-hazin. Persuna li qeghda isservi ta boxxla biex il-gvern nazzjonalista ma jkomplijx jeghreq fl-izballji tieghu.
il- mossa illi johrog stqarrija qabel ma tigi diskussa fil-parlament turi bic-car il-paniku sfrenat illi Lawrence Gonzi wasal fih u punt iehor jidher bic-car li l-ideat ta Lawrence gonzi mhumiex milqghuha mil-klikka tieghu tal-kabinett ahseb u ara kemm intlaqat tajjeb mal poplu !!!
Alfred Zahra de domenico
Feb 11th 2009, 17:12
Well done Astrid Vella and her team at Flimkien Ghal Ambjent Ahjar. This is a great victory for an NGO which, undeterred by arrogance and spite, spoke up for all true lovers of our heritage.
It would not be amiss for the members of the Foundation to offer their resignation.
Ivan Scicluna
Feb 11th 2009, 17:12
In addition to what I said before, I commend the Archbishop if his intervention brought some sense to GonziPN. On the other hand I hate to see our mother Church being used in this way by this Government. First GonziPN gives all its support to Monsignor Philip Calleja through the government's representative on the Foundation (RCC) and then decides to side with the Archbishop and calls on the same Foundation to halt the project!!! Something isn't making sense. I hope the Archbishop wasn't drawn into this political game!!
E.Anastasi
Feb 11th 2009, 17:12
Not so long ago a handful of government's stalwarts, including the PM himself argued that this is a private project, i.e. that "the St John’s Co-Cathedral Foundation is an independent entity and the government cannot interfere in such a project" (TMID 11/02/09) and that "the motion about St John's Co-Cathedral, put forward by the opposition, was a mistake, because it was based on false assumptions" (ToM 10/02/09). In any case, the radical change of heart is welcome. National interest and common sense has won over private interest.
Now, rather then stopping here, as if nothing ever happened - I urge our parliamentarians to find ways in which to ensure that such stupidity never happens again.
caroline crutchley
Feb 11th 2009, 17:11
Thank God
The voice of all those against has been listened to .
Perhaps the foundation may learn some humility and dignity in dealing with people now.
Joseph Vella Bondin
Feb 11th 2009, 17:09
I now invite the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition to re-examine the Opera House site project.
James Sultana
Feb 11th 2009, 17:07
U-turn ..... handbrake-turn ..... or "trembling feet" due to the pressure from the anti-RCC crusade by the disillusioned back-benchers ??
D Vella
Feb 11th 2009, 17:07
This has saved me a depressing visit to Valletta this evening for a meeting outside Parliament which I presume will not now be taking place.
I hope along with blogger R Grima below that the Government will now sort out the equally depressing proposal of Opera House/Parliament, the extremely excessive Electricity and Water bills and not forgetting the also very important Equal Rights Bill.
D Fenech
Feb 11th 2009, 17:06
Dear Oscar,
Remove your blindfold please.
V Fenech
Feb 11th 2009, 17:05
Such manoeuvres are impressive...
It took too long for Dr Gonzi to understand that this project is a complete flop! Why did the Archbishop refused to speak earlier? Do these two really needed to wait each other to open their eyes and say NO! Dear Government, for the sake of the electorate stop these stupid ideas. Not only do these farces damage the image of politics with the Maltese younger generations, these also serve as damaging distraction from the real problems!
The Church needs to be more and more proactive. The first thing we should do is to meet at the Co-Cathedral and commemorate a thanksgiving mass dedicated to the rejection of the project. We should also pray to God that the Nationalists Party would not be split into more pieces and that next time, GonziPN would not take too long to accept the Opposition advice!
Johanatan Abdilla
Feb 11th 2009, 17:04
Well done to the PL and Opposition Leader Dr. Joseph Muscat for the motion to oppose this irresponsible project. A project that was going to endanger one of our historical jewelsand flush 14 million euros down the drain, in a time when Malta needs the money to be invested elsewhere. It is interesting how Mgr Philip Calleja changed his tune overnight.
S Cassar
Feb 11th 2009, 17:03
TAJJEB MELA GHAX IL-GVERN HASS LI DIN IL-KWESTJONI KIENET QED TIFRED LILL-POPLU U IDDECIDA LI L-PROGETT MA JIBQGHAX GHADDEJ ISSA SE JINFETHU L-KANUNI FUQ IL-GVERN! LOL
R Axisa
Feb 11th 2009, 17:02
Very well said Ivan Scicluna. Initially, the project was given the go ahead by the prime minister, something which if it wasn't for the FAA, wouldn't have come to light. Also congrats to the opposition for the sterling work done to safeguard St John's Cathedral. Can one call this a u-turn? Don't tell me that the PM has his "ears on the ground", as everyone knows that all the merit goes to the opposition and the FAA for making the government to kneel down and reverse everything.
R.Caruana
Feb 11th 2009, 17:01
Please give credit where it is due.... to Ms A. Vella and her hardworking association.
The PL only jumped on the badwagon months after Ms Vella started her campaign and did so only to gain political milage out of it.
Dunstan Crockford
Feb 11th 2009, 17:01
Prosit Astrid Vella,well done Miriam Cremona ,common sense prevailed after all!!! But did we have to go through all that before such an obvious decision was taken!!!
Sometimes it seems that someone likes teasing the electorate till the eleventh hour!!! and the LP think that they are saving us! NGO`S keep up your good work for Malta! Hopefully you will be heard earlier thus avoiding so much waste of precious time to prove your point!
Oscar Cassar
Feb 11th 2009, 16:57
With today’s modernized equipment, digging could have been done with the minimum effect on the ground. It should have been noted that the proposed underground extension was to be performed (according to my knowledge) beneath the square in front of St John's Co-Cathedral and in Merchant Street and not underneath the Co-Cathedral. This is another typical example of us Maltese, which after a lot of discussions, hot conversations and special features on local TV stations, we end up doing nothing or worse loose funds from the EU.
D Fenech
Feb 11th 2009, 16:57
I fully support the statement made by Astrid Vella.
Well done all concerned!
This is the way to move forward.
Now the Opera house!
Joe Morana
Feb 11th 2009, 16:57
Good news indeed. Well done to ALL who contributed to this positive outcome.
mario nicholas pace
Feb 11th 2009, 16:54
Everyone knows what was going to happen in todays parliament vote about this issue. Ther were several Nationalists MP who were going to vote against the project . So Dr Gonzi had to intervene for his own sake!
J.Borg
Feb 11th 2009, 16:50
What a farce by GONZIPN......so we let this escalate to where it has come, and just minutes before the parlament is to discuss a motion on this project our PM says that the project is going to be dropped.
So, can anyone tell me who is wasting time in parlament?
As if the project is going to be dropped it useless discussing the motion tonight. Or was GONZIPN his backbenchers were going to vote against the government?
Anthony Brincat
Feb 11th 2009, 16:50
I invite the Foundation to seriously consider taking over a nearby large house previously housing a furniture making firm and convert it into a museum. It can easily be joined to the present museum building by a bridge across St Lucia Street . Also another storey can be built over that part of the museum which lies above the jewellery shops in the same street.
Christopher Cutajar
Feb 11th 2009, 16:50
Hope that this will be the first in a series of rational decisions that the government will be making during this legislature. Unfortunately, the first 10 months of this government has already been characterized by either irrational decisions or else decisions which the people did not authorize the government to take.
Two good examples for the latter thesis would surely be the engagement of Malta within the Partnership for Peace (something not mentioned at all in the PN's manifesto), and also the huge rise in water/electricity tariffs in a context of much lower oil prizes and an economical recession.
Tactically the PN had no other choice in dealing with the project proposed by itself. Disgruntled MPs within its party would have broken hell this evening, if such a decision would not have been taken. PN still wants to portray itself as a united party. With declarations by Premier Gozni, stating that himself is equivalent to government (PN Club - Paola - 08.02.09), potential dissenting voices within his party will surely be further provoked to act as protagonists.
This time round, the right decision was taken. Hope it will continue to be so in the near future!
John Debattista
Feb 11th 2009, 16:49
Veru Pajjiz tal Mickey Mouse, b'min Tahsbu li Thaqtu ! Tahsbu li poplu Bahnan, u bilhaqq kumbinazzjoni ftit sieghat Qabel Il Parlament kellu jitaqa, biex minghalikhom ma ikunx hawn firda fil Poplu, Halliniena sur Isqof / Prime Ministru ! Domtu Tahsbuha Ha Ha.. Taghlem POPLU U tibqghax Iblah............................
R Grima
Feb 11th 2009, 16:49
One down , a few to go such as
The Opera House
Civil and equal rights
The electricity and water charges.
Glad to see that the Government is finally seeing sense. Now convince us more by taking the above bones of contention in hand.
Ivan Scicluna
Feb 11th 2009, 16:48
The Labour Party's intervention on the St. John's Cathedral Museum extension was spot on. If Joseph Muscat didn't move this crucial motion in Parliament, nothing would have happened and the project would have been bulldozed upon every Maltese citizen who disapproved of this project. This is really the New and effective Labour Party. This is the earthquake taking place, not only in the Labour Party but even in the PN! The Labour Party is uniting the Maltese and Gozitans against this arrogant regime ruling our beloved country.
Ethelbert Schembri
Feb 11th 2009, 16:48
So Dr Joseph Muscat was right and Dr Gonzi had to step back from his position.
I wonder on what else is Dr Gonzi wrong and Dr Muscat right !!!!
Let’s hope that the GOV listens more to Dr Muscat cause he showed great maturity in his actions .
Well done Dr Muscat and thanks to everyone that contributed in saving one of Malta treasures
Herbert Mamo
Feb 11th 2009, 16:48
And a big well done Astrid Vella and the FAA. Were it not for your stand on this issue things might have ended up very differently. And well done to JPO for his part in forcing the PN Government to step down and together with RCC and Mons Calleja eat humble pie.
simon micallef stafrace
Feb 11th 2009, 16:45
Well done primarily joseph muscat. What is really worrying is that this project was a non-starter which should have never seen the light of day. The Govt. has to answer for initiating this project.
Charles Sammut
Feb 11th 2009, 16:44
Now apply the same logic to the Opera House site.
A.Gauci Cunningham
Feb 11th 2009, 16:44
Malta has won, our Heritage has been saved from potential harm!! We owe it to the people, to Flimkien Ghall-Ambjent Ahjar and other NGOs especially Astrid vella who through her tireless efforts prevented this monstrosity from going on!!
I wish to publicly thank the PL and AD for their support but especially Evarist Bartolo (MP Pl) who were very supportive of the stands the citizens of this country were taking!!
I would also like to thank the 400 members (mostly young people) who joined the Facebook Group "Say NO to the Co-Cathedral Project" and enthusiastically opposed the plans!!! Thanks!!
A true case of "Flimkien Kollox Possibli" and by "flimkien" I mean the people and not the PM or those who stand to lose from this news!!!
Joe Cassar
Feb 11th 2009, 16:43
What Dr Gonzi really meant is that he cannot afford to let this project split the PN parliamentary group more than it already is.
D Ellul
Feb 11th 2009, 16:43
Seems like the opposition is being very effective.
M BEzzina
Feb 11th 2009, 16:43
a clear example of being "ears on the ground". well done PM.
Joseoh Dalli
Feb 11th 2009, 16:41
This is great news.
A great news for all those who love unity and consciousness among all groups of people.
Thanks also for the Opposition Party who stood strong with the people and the NGOs with their concerns.
This is also a lesson for all of us, to conserve and take care all our heritage with great care and interest.
Hope for the best, and a big thanks should go to us, the people.
Anthony E Portelli
Feb 11th 2009, 16:38
Deo Gratia
loanardo vince
Feb 11th 2009, 16:36
CRACKS
Simon Testa
Feb 11th 2009, 16:34
The project did not divide the country, but united it against it.
A.Sciberras
Feb 11th 2009, 16:34
Thankyou Mr Prime Minister. thankyou Archbishop
Joe Micallef
Feb 11th 2009, 16:34
What a shame!
Eric Psaila
Feb 11th 2009, 16:33
prosit. Finally reason prevailed.