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Maltese MEPs say 'yes' to cohabitation and gay couple laws

Two Nationalist MEPs have voted in favour of amendments recognising the need for laws on cohabitation, including those of gay couples, and the recognition of same-sex marriages performed in other EU member states.

This vote at the European Parliament was part of a non-binding resolution to harmonise fundamental EU human rights' laws and shows a marked shift in the position of the five Maltese MEPs.

This comes two weeks after the five MEPs opposed the final vote on the resolution moved by Italian communist MEP Giusto Catania, particularly due to a reference to abortion rights.

However, an analysis of the voting patterns on the amendments put forward to the resolution, shows Malta's representatives in Brussels are in favour of legislation on the rights of cohabiting partners.

Nationalist MEPs Simon Busuttil and David Casa voted 'yes' to the amendments. However, the vote of Labour MEPs appears to be mired in ambiguity.

While John Attard Montalto voted in favour, Glenn Bedingfield abstained and Louis Grech did not cast his vote. However, this vague Labour position was the result of a "misunderstanding", according to Mr Grech, Labour's head of delegation.

Admitting the inconsistent voting pattern, Mr Grech clarified that this was only a result of the ambiguous wording of the amendments "which gave rise to different interpretations" by the three Labour MEPs.

He stressed that all Labour MEPs are in favour of having Maltese legislation regulating cohabitation and gay partnerships.

"We feel that discussion and action on the concept of civil partnership is long overdue. Our delegation believes it is high time to legislate civil partnership, which is open to all couples, and which will address and rectify anomalies, injustices and hardships, resulting from the absence of proper and adequate legislation,"he said.

The big surprise vote on this issue was from the Nationalist side. Traditionally, the PN - a party rooted in Christian Democratic values - preferred to stay away from these hot social issues.

However, according to Dr Busuttil, it is time these issues are addressed: "Through our vote we wanted to show that we support efforts to eliminate discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and we felt that we needed to reflect this in our vote."

"We are in favour of laws on cohabitation, including those for same-sex couples. This would regulate same-sex partnerships only, and not marriages," he told The Sunday Times.

"Our position is that once we introduce cohabitation and once we already recognise divorces granted in other countries, there is nothing wrong in recognising same-sex marriages as well."

Dr Busuttil's and Mr Casa's move is in line with promises made by the PN before last March's general election to legislate on cohabitation, including same-sex couples.

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Joe Zammit (on 16/2/09)
Some of those indulging themselves in homosexual acts are deceiving themselves in thinking that there can be a homosexual marriage. Most of them do not. The great majority of Maltese and Gozitans are indeed convinced that two men or two women can NEVER make a marriage. Poor fellows those who deceive themselves in thinking differently. They are really deceiving themselves. A marriage can only exist between one man and one woman. This is what God has made and this is what will remain true for ever.
Joe Xuereb (on 11/2/09)
cont./ So, with real incentive, a homosexual commitment is less long-lasting. Unless people commit themselves by setting up a business together, plus mortgage and so on. But that is a commitment based on practical, materialistic matters and chosen by very few. So people drift apart, amicably usually. And this is why homosexual relationships are in many ways more honest. There is none of the staying-together-for-the-sake-of nonsense. Sure some well indoctrinated, will point out that serial relationships (if one is lucky) is a sure recipe for a lonely old age. To which I would say, the network of friends enjoyed by homosexuals is amazing. Further, anyone thinking that marriage is some guarantee against 'a lonely old age' is seriously deluding themselves. We come into the world alone and we die alone. Besides, what could be lonelier than staying a lifetime with someone 'for the sake of.......'
So there you have it Mr Figallo. In a nutshell. Well, just over 150 words. Not bad. Not bad at all.
Joe Xuereb (on 11/2/09)
To state that not all homosexuals would want the right to civil partnerships would be to state the obvious. I personally would not clamour for it for reasons already stated. I cannot be alone. The issue is a moot point in any case. Committed relationships are difficult to come by, for anybody. Evolutionary nature has evolved a set up whereby people, sometimes thoseof the same sex as is manifestly obvious, feel an attraction towards each other (called chemistry I believe). This last for quite a while, at any rate long enough so that if there in no conception during the initial copulation, the chemistry thing will ensure further intense attempts. This phenomenon ensures the siring of some children. The chemistry thing dissipates. But of course of there are children by now, they have to be reared. Enter commitment. Commitment (implying sacrifice of some sort) requires a payoff. Hence the role of the children. People may very quickly end up hating each other but they stay together for the sake of their offspring. Homosexuals too, of course, experience the chemistry thing. In their case, their commitment cannot be shored up by children so they tend to drift apart rather sooner. cont./
Edric Micallef Figallo (on 7/2/09)
@ Joe Xuereb

I sleep well at night. What you proposed finds me concurring. Perhaps it would be time homosexuals recognise one thing, they are being perceived as monolithic in thought because of just a part of what I shall term the "homosexual community". In this regard, the MGRM might be doing the "homosexual community" a disservice, for it purports itself to represent the views of all in all instances when it doesn't.

This monolithic perception in the eyes of the public harms all homosexuals who harbour different political beliefs and priorities. The worst of all, strategically speaking, is that you end up appearing as asking way too much and you'll end up getting way too little, when it could be done better from your part.

The public thinks that all homosexuals want "marriage", child adoption, social benefits given specifically to families et cetera when I know that that is not the case. However, if no homosexuals speak up against that perception the notion of tacit consent kicks in. Worse, the public will think that there is uniform agreement and the lack of courage to assert it if not subterfuge. Time to look into that.
Joe Xuereb (on 6/2/09)
@ Jesmond Micallef ......I respect that...... What an empty cliche. Listen, veiled homophobia fools no one. It is too thin. Here and elsewhere you express your disgust at the word marriage as it affects you, if it also includes gay marriage. Fair comment. And not. If you feel your institution of choice is so easily threatened, why not shore up its weaknesses. It needs a bit of honest soul-searching mind you. But in the longer term, more effective than scapegoating homosexuals and their mistaken desire for a flawed man-made institution. And you can certainly count me out on that one. So you cannot blame me for your misery. Bark up the right tree is my counsel.
Joe Xuereb (on 5/2/09)
What self-respecting homosexual would want to buy into a mere social construct that is marriage. Life is about justice and fairness. Clamouring for these under the encompassing blanket that is marriage complicates the issue unnecessarily. I want the right to leave my chattels to my very special friend and for him to visit me in hospital if I am ill, and to be at my deathbed should it come to that. In fact, this is a right I give myself. No laws needed, certainly no marriage. If family do not like it, they know where the door is. End of. There, I trust Jesmond Micallef and Figallo at least can sleep easy tonight.
Joe Zammit (on 3/2/09)
Politicians are called by Christ and the Catholic Church to show in their life the unity that should exist between faith and life, and to be coherent with the faith they profess. We need a new generation of committed Catholic in politics. They can belong to different political parties. At the basis of their political activity they have to put the social teaching of the Catholic Church. But, it remains a fact that Catholic politicians must be coherent with the faith they profess, have moral rigor, the capacity to make judgments regarding culture, professional competence and the passion to serve the common good.
E.Vella (on 2/2/09)
I think PN after this vote must clarify his true beliefs and not hide behind the Catholic Church...calling themselves in there anthem "KATTOLICI"....Change that anthem and leave in peace the Catholic Church...you damage and offend the Christian value...one thing I know that in the next EU Elections my vote will go only who really is bound with the Christian Values....a laity state ok but an atheistic state...NEVER...In few time PN will legalise also divorce so those in favour will vote for him....

MALTESE never learn....these polticians are a junk of nuclear mold
Joe Zammit (on 2/2/09)
For ALL POLITICIANS: The social teaching of the Catholic Church is a mine of enlightenment in our public interest. One can easily read it on the internet under: Compendium of the social teaching of the Catholic Church. Who has as much experience as the Catholic Church with regard to social problems and questions? Her teaching is good to one and all. What we need is to have politicians of good will that put God and his loving will on us first and foremost.
Joe Zammit (on 2/2/09)
CASA and BUSUTTIL, the Maltese and Gozitans want you to explain. We want to know exactly for what (in detail!) you have voted for. The earlier you do it, the better for you and for us.
Joe Zammit (on 2/2/09)
Same-sex marriage is a contradiction. Same-sex marriages do not exist and cannot exist. Marriage is between one man and one woman for ever. Marriage is for love for procreation. Same-sex unions are for lust for sterility. Homosexuals despise nature and abuse of nature. Despising nature can never be a right.
Edric Micallef Figallo (on 2/2/09)
Politically speaking, does this now vocal gay lobby expect same-sex marriage exclusively or does it also favour the introduction of divorce? Why, marriage in Malta is indissoluble at civil law.

This question is very important and it is a political one. It is not a juridical question whether someone considers divorce and same-sex marriages distinct, they most definitely are. It is about whether those that clamour for same-sex marriages politically expect one of the following:

1. To not have the right to be granted a divorce by Maltese courts, as is the case for marriage in our jurisdiction, because marriage is indissoluble at law.

2. To actually have divorce applicable to same-sex marriage exclusively. Meaning that if the legislator would be happy in granting divorce exclusively for same-sex marriages and not to heterosexual marriages, the gay lobby would be happy.

3. Whether the gay lobby expects same-sex marriages and divorce to be recognised as civil rights sanctioned by our courts according to our own law, enacted by our own Parliament.

My usage of the term "same-sex marriage/s" is for argument's sake, I do not subscribe to that terminology nor what it purports to represent.
Joe Fountain (on 2/2/09)
i smell a rat .... why the sudden change of heart here?
Joe Fountain (on 2/2/09)
tonio borg must be loving this!
J Farrugia (on 2/2/09)
to all those who voted for these obscenities, I tell you BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES. You will never get my family's votes.
David Cassar (on 2/2/09)
Before anyone gets too excited,these MEP's only voted for a non binding resolution.

Being cynical and remembering the many broken promises I will only be convinced of the Government's good intentions when these human right's laws(note rights not privileges) are part of Maltese law.
Joe Zammit (on 1/2/09)
God's law is above EU law. The great majority of Maltese and Gozitans are Catholics and want God's law to be respected and obeyed. We do not want any EU law to infringe on God's law as taught to us by his one Catholic Church. EU knows this and leaves each country free on these matters. EU cannot oblige any country to legislate against God's law. We have seen this for quite a number of years now, especially with regard to other member countries.
Robert Callus (on 1/2/09)
WHile I definitely approve the three MEP's vote, I'm a bit sceptic about the 'non-binding resolution' aspect. Is it possible that after June's election they make a U turn from this decision?
I'm not saying it is as such, just asking
Joe Zammit (on 1/2/09)
Same-sex marriages do not exist. These are against nature. The fact that they are found in legislation do not amount to their existence. A marriage is only between one man and one woman. Two men or two women can be a lovely farse but do not form a marriage. Nature speaks loudly on this for those who have eyes to see.
John Lauri (on 1/2/09)
@ Joe Zammit.

I suggest you get your facts right Mr Zammit !

Same-sex marriage DOES CURRENTLY exist. It exists in exactly that term of SAME-SEX (OR GENDER NEUTRAL) MARRIAGE in The Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Canada, South Africa, Norway and Nepal. If in doubt Mr Zammit, please click on this link for confirmatiion : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage

In addition, CIVIL UNIONS / PARTNERSHIPS offering varying amounts of the benefits of marriage and are available in: Andorra, Australia, Colombia, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Israel, Luxembourg, New Zealand, Portugal, Slovenia, Sweden, Switzerland, the United Kingdom and Uruguay. They are also available in some parts of Argentina, Brazil (Rio Grande do Sul), Mexico (Federal District and Coahuila), the U.S. states of California, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Oregon, Vermont, Washington, and the District of Columbia (Washington, D.C.).

Once again I urge you to check your facts prior to commenting erroneously here in The Times, Mr Zammit.
Jesmond Micallef (on 1/2/09)
Ok, gay couple laws and cohabitation need be tackled, and I guess this is good progress on this front, .......which I respect.

@ Joe Zammit : Same sex marriages !!!! I just cannot agree more. What strikes me really is the use of the word MARRIAGE in all instances, I mean Female/Male, Male/Male, Female/Female, binding relationships. Every binding instance noted here is unique and I really challenge the use of the word Marriage in all instances EXCEPT for the first : Male/Female or Female/Male.

For any other binding relationships between members of the same sex, than I strongly recommend new vocabulary in this regard but please NOT MARRIAGE !
R Genovese (on 1/2/09)
What people like Joe Zammit choose to forget is that when the people of this Country,in their majority, voted to join the EU,they were saying yes to all that the EU in it's wisdom enacts. You cannot join a club without adhering to all it's rules and regulations. An example would be joining the Catholic Church.

We look forward to human rights as that enjoyed by the rest of the people of Europe. We are no less than them.
Alfred Sacco (on 1/2/09)
It would be the right thing to do if this legislation came before Parliament for approval before the MEP elections in June. The sooner this is done the better. A lot of people were disappointed when they were promised things before the General Election and which haven't materialised. Trust once misplaced needs to be seen to be mended .Confidence needs to be regained.
Alfred Sacco (on 1/2/09)
It would be the right thing to do if this legislation came before Parliament for approval before the MEP elections in June. The sooner this is done the better. A lot of people were disappointed when they were promised things before the General Election and which haven't materialised. Trust once misplaced needs to be seen to be mended .Confidence needs to be regained.
a attard (on 1/2/09)
Finally! one might see the end to this great injustice being suffered by cohabiting and gay couples in Malta - an injustice we might see the back off once and for all - Well done to David Casa - Simon Busutil - and John Attard Montaldo
Joe Zammit (on 1/2/09)
Same-sex marriage does not exist and will never exist. Same-sex partners is something else. At the UN all MEPs voted against or abstained from voting in favour of introduction of same-sex marriages in national law. This holds true to date. Helping people in their needs is something else. Still, the resolution under discussion is non-binding. And still we need Casa or Busuttil to explain their move. Recognising the laws adopted abroad does not amount to introducing them here.
Joe Zammit (on 1/2/09)
Same-sex marriage does not exist and will never exist. Same-sex partners is something else. At the UN all MEPs voted against or abstained from voting in favour of introduction of same-sex marriages in national law. This holds true to date. Helping people in their needs is something else. Still, the resolution under discussion is non-binding. And still we need Casa or Busuttil to explain their move. Recognising the laws adopted abroad does not amount to introducing them here.
Louis Gialanze (on 1/2/09)
David Casa and Simon Busutill you do not deserve to be re elected to the European parliament. I was a PN activist in the sixties and defended the 'keep' during those turbulent years. I am now ashamed to be associated with this party.
I will be voting for Sharon Ellul Bonici this time round because I know exactly where I stand with her. The PN has betrayed us all having sold its soul and country to the EU. The PNPL interests now lies in milking the cash rich EU cow out of personal concern rather than our national interest. Shame on you!
M Grima (on 1/2/09)
This is definitely a step in the right direction. Given that broadly speaking the NP/ LP and AD both agree on the granting of these rights,what is stopping from legislation going before Parliament for raification?.Surely the sooner this is out of the way the better.
D Vella (on 1/2/09)
As I have said before, this should really be a non issue as as far as the State is concerned, gay rights,same sex unions and cohabitation do not hurt or harm/interfere with anybody. It is merely putting to rights a long held injustice. Everyone regardless of sex,race,religion or gender should be equal before the law. It is a piece of legislation which needn't take long to amend leaving everybody to get on with other serious issues. Church members who may not agree can of course ignore this legislation and carry on as before. The sooner this is the done the better.
Clifford Borg (on 1/2/09)
Prosit Simon and David...moving in the right direction....
John Lauri (on 1/2/09)
I am very glad that 2 Maltese MEPS voted yes to cohabitation and gay couple rights ! Finally, we have 2 Maltese politicians who have acknowledged the need for Malta to come in line with the rest of the EU and the modern world, where society is built on diversity and equal rights ! I applaude you both for taking a positive stance on the rights currently denied to cohabitees and gay couples !

@ Anton Grech : Every democratic society has a very clear separation of Church and State. According to you, Malta should be an exception to this and that is very backwards.

A government is there as a representative for all it citizens, straight, gay, lesbian or transgender and to serve them all equally WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION ! The church should have no interference or influence on government policy and on citizen rights ! Religious belief is a personal thing between you and your relationship with your God and you have every right to go to church daily and do whatever people do when they go to church. However, this does not mean that religious belief or dogma should be the foundation of a civil, democratic government !
lgalea (on 1/2/09)
YOU OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES.
DO YOU CALL YOURSELVES CHRISTIANS?
V Fenech (on 1/2/09)
What about asking your deputy leader about your empty "efforts to eliminate discrimination", Dr Busuttil?
H P Farrugia (on 1/2/09)
As N Micallef Said, There is no U-turn. The PM had said that such cohabitation laws would include, if I recall correctly, anybody who isn't married living in a household, including co-habiting heterosexual couples and also e.g. brothers and sisters. Such people are tax-payers as much as any heterosexual married person! It is hurtful when they cannot get the benefits or rights they need.

Secondly, a Christian Democrat Party is NOT a Catholic Extremist Party. The Christian principles imply solidarity.

Everyone has a right to his own belief, which is part of living in a democratic society. However it is long due time that church is separated from state. Other comments that PN votes are 'catholic' votes are unsubstantiated as the church includes people from all political beliefs.

We are no longer living either in a time where the Chruch has so much power, and should be treated as a major interest group, as other groups are! It is also time that such legislation is enacted so that more rights for the people and at the end of the day, a more organised structure for the government is created.
V Fenech (on 1/2/09)
Yeyyyy, even il-Partit Nazzjunalista is now on board on the progressive movement started by Dr Muscat!
N Micallef (on 1/2/09)
I cannot understand why some people are disappointed with this decision when this was a move towards more democracy. Such legislation would only affect people who want to cohabitate and same-sex couples whom for years were being discriminated. People have choices and decisions to make for themselves throughout their lives. They can either get married, cohabitate, remain single or whatsoever. Every individual decides what to do and in no way it will affect other people's lives!!
PN has realised that it has been discriminating against such people for years and has also realised that being in government they are bound to protect ALL CITIZENS not just Catholic people. Is it that hard to understand?
C Attard (on 1/2/09)
After 5 years of repeatedly voting down anything remotely in favour of gay rights, the two PN MEPs suddenly have a change of heart, and on the eve of the EP elections I might add. How very convenient. You might fool some die-hard Nationalist gays who have no idea how they're shooting themselves in the foot by voting for you dear Simon and David, but you're not going to fool me. My vote as a gay man this time round is going to Labour. If you still get elected come June and then you maintain this position in favour of my equal rights, then you'll have my vote in 2014.
Anton Grech (on 1/2/09)
@ Casa-Busuttil

Dear brothers in Christ,

You are forgetting the fundamentals of the Nationalist Party whom you are representing abroad. We are the Christian Democratic Party whose values are based on the Roman Catholic Church. It had always been thus and always will....both before, after and close to any election.

But what you did in Brussles is a shame for all Maltese Chatolics, for our Church who helped you get elected, and for our Party Great Leaders - last being Eddie Fenech Adami.

So now you (and the PN) lost my vote.

@ others

Please don;t tell me to vote Labour.

Anybody can come and pick my vote from my house.

Anton
Tony Mizzi (on 1/2/09)
This is the PN ... the new PN which Dr.Gonzi brought to our shores.

Thank you Dr.Gionzi for betraying the old tradtition values of a christain democratic party.

Indeed, Dr.Busuttill might be right. It is time for change, but if this new world need social democratic values, then he is asking us to vote for that party who always adhere to those principles. Thank you ..... for denying me a choose .......Hail the new age of one big party ... the social democratics of Malta .... PL and PN going hand in hand !!!!!
N Micallef (on 1/2/09)
To Paul Micallef,

You are completely wrong. Introducing laws for cohabitating couples (including gay couples) was an electoral promise announced during a popular TV programme. Hence, there was NO U-turn.
Secondly, the Church has nothing to do with the State. People need to learn that the State is not the Church and the government is there to protect the interests of every Maltese citizen irrespective of his/her religious beliefs, political affiliation, sex, racial origin, sexual orientation and/or cultural background!
So yes, this is a step further towards being a more democratic country. It is up to the individual to maintain his/her Family values and I can assure you that gay people have family values much more than you think!
Can you please let gay people be themselves? In no way, they are a threat to society and its values!
Joe Zammit (on 1/2/09)
What are these amendments? We want to know. To date, nothing is clear. After all, everything is described as a "non-binding resolution".
Paul Micallef (on 1/2/09)

Ha ha ha, thank you for being just,but after the election the U turns that the P.N are taking is AMAZING.
Now to all those, GENTILE folk that go to Church and Voted for the P.N thinking that their Family values will be upheld just because they told you so, and PROMISED you.

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