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Minister out of touch with the times

Tonio Borg's intervention in a recent parliamentary session when debating the rent reform highlights the contempt in which the government holds same-sex couples and how far they are from according them the rights and respect they enjoy in a number of EU countries.

Despite discourse reiterated by the Nationalist Party regarding the need to regularise the position and legal status of couples who cohabit, regardless of whether the couples are same-sex or opposite-sex, Dr Borg's remarks left many wondering whether there really is any political will to legislate in this regard. His words and the mocking tone he used seemed particularly intent in belittling the relationships of same-sex couples and showed great insensitivity towards lesbian, gay and bisexual citizens.

Moreover, it clearly manifested that there are two measures being used when it comes to safeguarding the human rights and well-being of opposite-sex and same-sex couples.

By his statements the minister implied that were a partner or child of a same-sex couple to become homeless this was of no particular consequence. The hardship they would undergo was not a matter of concern to the state.

The minister also queried how one could verify the relationship of a cohabiting couple since no marriage certificate could be produced. He seemed to find the idea of registered partnerships for cohabiting couples, gay or straight to be a ridiculous notion, despite this being common practice in many countries. I am certain that to many politicians in Europe it is the minister's attitude that would be considered preposterous and out of sync with the times.

The Malta Gay Rights Movement would like to thank MP Evarist Bartolo for his intervention in defence of same-sex couples and his censure of Minister Borg's attitude towards the rights of sexual minorities.

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Joe Bonnetti (on 29/1/09)
@ Bernard Muscat; A.Saliba / RobertSultana: Dear friends, Do you want more from me..........................., I have the HB documents. You cannot contradict these!!! Unless....
But, then, I am ready to reply back... Good Bye, be blessed. Joe
Joe Bonnetti (on 29/1/09)
@ Bernard Muscat; A.Saliba/RobertSultana: God loves Homosexuals as they are too.” Do note that those (homosexuals) who even are ask “How does this God who is so loving and compassionate simple push me away from His arms?” So are we all failing in this subject?
Yes, it is quite true, God is kind & loving, but we should not forget what St. Paul's said and made it quite clear in the Holy Bible (1 Corinthians Chapter 6 Verse 9 to 11), specifically & quite clearly telling us that through such behaviour one cannot inherit the Kingdom of God – he further stated “don't fool yourself”, and explained “As none will inherit His Kingdom if he remains indulged in sexual sin or practicing such acts” referring to homosexual acts. Yet, many cannot or don't want to understand this fact, unless realizing that is on the wrong path to His Kingdom. We all are oblidged to enlight you with the true facts. So why be afraid to explain this prospective dangers. If this is neglected would we not be judged for our negligence from not helping homosexuals to follow God's law to their freedom from their bad habit OK
A. Saliba (on 28/1/09)
@J Chircop

"If I dont plan to get married shouldnt I have the same tax benefits as you who guys who get married?"

Of course not. Otherwise what would be the difference between marriage (whether civil or religious) and cohabitation?
A. Saliba (on 28/1/09)
@J Chircop, Lino Apap, Kurt Mifsud

Perhaps I'm at fault here, but neither of you got my point. I'm in favor of divorce and same sex civil unions, but not cohabitation legislation.

Robert Sultana (on 28/1/09)
Joe Bonetti, isn't CELIBACY also contrary to natural human law ? Or is it 2 weights 2 measures with you ?
Joe Grima (on 28/1/09)
Lino Apap. Well said. I share your views
Michael Cilia (on 28/1/09)
@Joe Bonnetti

What does the Catholic church have to do with rent reforms? or Civil union for that matter?
Bernard Muscat (on 28/1/09)
And as you said Joe, I also know of many people who held your closed-minded views about gay people, and have managed to change their views. Reading through scripture will not help you change your opinions, however.

I’m sure you can – eventually – change too. You too must ‘understand and try’. Again, as you said, with a minor correction, ‘When there’s a will, there’s a way.’
Bernard Muscat (on 28/1/09)
Dear Joe Bonnetti – we meet again. I sense your ideas on gay people are still the same medieval ones you held the last time we spoke of the subject.

What scripture says about homosexuality is about as relevant as what it says about brides not being virgins needing to be stoned immediately (Deut, 22:13-21). Or about married couples who engage in intercourse during a woman’s period. They should also be executed (Leviticus, 18:19). These too are facts ‘that cannot be hidden or misunderstood’, as you say.

Your ‘respect, compassion and sensitivity’ come across as extremely patronizing. I suggest you stop trying to find answers to the complexity of human sexuality in the bible. It knows zip about sexuality as much as it knows zip about astronomy. Ask Galileo Galilei.

As the rest of the world realizes the importance of granting gay couples equal rights to opposite-sex couples – because their relationships are as important – you are still lost reading scripture and trying to convince yourself that it is wrong to love one’s partner, if one’s partner is of the same sex.
Joe Bonnetti (on 28/1/09)
@Gabi Calleja : I have nothing against such persons, but I do recall that the Universal Church says that Homosexuality as presented in the holy scripture is "an acts of grave depravity, tradition declared as intrinsically disorder" This is a fact that cannot be hidden or misunderstood - OK!

Therefore, it goes contrary to the natural human law, thereby under no circumstances can it's act be approved. However, the local church does says that we must accept such persons with respect, compassion, and sensitivity, but then the catechism called on such person as to chastity through self mastery that would teach them inner freedom by prayers and sacramental grace.

They should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection by time. Maybe that's the actual reason which gabi must understand and try. I know of many who changed for where theirs a will theirs a way!!!

Charles Sammut (on 28/1/09)
"were a partner or child of a same-sex couple to become homeless this was of no particular consequence."

Any person, single or otherwise becoming homeless is of concern. Why should the fact that a person is in relationship have any bearing on his homeless state?

I find the concept of same-sex couples being allowed to raise children abhorrent. Even children adopted by hetero couples very often develop psychological problems, but in this case the alternative would have been even more traumatic, so it is the less evil.
Bernard Muscat (on 28/1/09)
I don’t see why the cohabitation legislation is ‘absurd’, as someone said. And I also don’t think ‘it defies the point of marriage’. Some people want to get married – others prefer to cohabit.

What we hope is that when eventually cohabitation is regularized, opposite-sex and same-sex couples will be treated in the same way. It is relationships we are speaking about here, and nobody’s relationship should be inferior to anybody else’s.
Kurt Mifsud (on 28/1/09)
@A. Saliba

Is it really your business and does it matter to you if I decide to cohabitate instead of getting married??? If you want to get married just get married, but don't impose your beliefs on others, PLEASE!

And btw, a study in the UK clearly proved that cohabitation between couples before marriage resulted in more successful marriages :)
M grima (on 28/1/09)
I am sure there are more than 1500 gays eligible to vote,it's not only right we have on our side but possible power too. Our Deputy PM needn't be too smug.

I don't know that I have ever heard anything so contemptible from the lips of a Minister,and possible future PM, in a long time
Christopher Ripard (on 28/1/09)
"child of a same sex couple" this is a very loaded phrase, Gabi.

Sorry to state the obvious, but biologically, same sex couples can't have children between them.

I am all for recognising same-sex unions, but should they include rights nature never intended them having? Is this not a case of having one's cake and eating it? I thought Gays wanted equality, not privileges! What's more, don't such children have the right to be raised by their natural parents?

(Sorry to have to use 'have' three times in two sentences btw)
Lino Apap (on 28/1/09)
@ A. Saliba - So legislation to regulate cohabitation is ridiculous, is it? Once Malta does not have divorce legislation available to allow separated couples to re-marry, pray what must partners in such relationships do to obtain some legal standing and protection? Or are these people not tax-paying citizens like yourself presumably? Are they second-class citizens perhaps? Everyone’s aware that the PN is donkeys' years behind the EU and the rest of the world (bar the Philippines) and Dr. Tonio Borg’s outburst simply uncovered the façade of the false promises made by the PN in the 1998 and 2008 elections. Before the last elections, Dr. Gonzi himself promised that this is an area that has to be regulated and legislated during this Legislature. One hopes that this will not go the way of a similar promise made by the PN in 1998.
J Chircop (on 28/1/09)
@ A. Saliba, What is wrong with you guys and your obsession with marriage? Can someone who wishes to cohabit do so in peace. Whatever the sex of his her partner. If I dont plan to get married shouldnt I have the same tax benefits as you who guys who get married? Its not fair that a gay or straight couple should pay more tax and get no benefit?
Joe Vella (on 28/1/09)
What is wrong is to push the issue of cohabitation trough the rent reform legislation.

The lease agreement conditions, agreed upon when the lease was initially signed, should not be changed through the backdoor by using this piece of legislation.
A. Saliba (on 28/1/09)
Labour is making the misake of pushing for cohabition legislation (which is absurd, since it defies the whole point of marriage) instead of categorically stating that they favor gay civil-unions.

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