Three men injured in two separate arguments

JPace

Jan 5th 2009, 23:13

@ all
The way everyone manages to politicise every event that goes in Malta, including crime,
is way beyond me.
Has anyone ever thought of diminishing values?????

A.Borg

Jan 5th 2009, 21:33

Further to my comments..I NEVER mentioned POLITICS!

HE/her how did is in need of trying NOT to jump to conclusions. Now if one thinks, that these incidents are not motivated by stress, then the problem.......... is WORSE!!

Is this normal to you out there?? Stab if you do not agree??

One problem with many Maltese is that they DO NOT have the GUTS to ADMIT something is wrong!! The more I see such comments, I confirm that we will NEVER learn from our OWN MISTAKES.One stress culprit is certain people think they are JUST under GOD himself, and any EVIL can be justified!!!!

Grow up and open your eyes to reality. Take a walk, not by car with the windows closed due to the AIR CONDITION or HEATED CONTROL, and then but only then see what the Maltese are turning to.

michael fenech

Jan 5th 2009, 20:53

@ Joe Vella,

I'm sorry Mr. Vella but I disagree, who else can change the law( punishment )if not the poeple we voted in. So politics has a lot to do with what goes on in a country.

Jos Vella

Jan 5th 2009, 20:35

politics has nothing to do with all the crimes which took place over the past days. I mostly worry on how it always turns out that the culprits will be released on bail once they are brought to justice. I think that punishments should be harsher, and the personal guarantee set to higher figures; does a human life cost €1000 - €4000? I doubt it.

Liam Kelly

Jan 5th 2009, 19:23

Mark Fenech,

It was just a little joke to imply the metaphor of a caveman to this story; Last time i checked the stone age wasn't occupied by people going around in trainers, with gelled hair while listening to their ipods......sorry you didnt get it.

Joseph E Briffa

Jan 5th 2009, 18:54

No doubt that stress can make a beast out of man. But luckily most people behave in a 'normal' fashion and do not over react. Some say Latin blood is more prone to make one violent, but this is debatable. What constitutes stress for one person may be taken in one's stride by another depending on the make-up of the individual. Having to settle alot of bills may be stresssful but does necessarily make one violent. High population density and hot climate makes one irritable. Another irritant is high noise level - like loud bangs accompanying fireworks in a tiny place like Malta. Overwork could be another, though some people are workaholics others just break down or become irritable and overreact and resort to violence. The reference by some bloggers to the current administration and the revised utility tariffs just betrays their obsessions. The Enemalta and WSC websites reveal that the increases are merely around 15% - some Eur100 p.a. on an average family bill. Paying 35c more a day for utilities does not send people up the wall.

michael fenech

Jan 5th 2009, 17:51

@ Matthew Aguis, Alex Coppola and all the other apologists.

Yes I do remember the 60's and 70's, true you had the odd bank hold up, but look around you to-day you're walking down the street and we are being held up stabbed and reped . I'm not being partisan these are fact.

I remember a PN leader telling the poeple, give me your vote and I give you freedom and money in your pockets,and of course we can never forget him telling the Maltese poeple MONEY IS NO PROBLEM. Well well,is it.

Are you old enough to remember that???????????????

Mark-Anthony Fenech

Jan 5th 2009, 16:58

@ Liam Kelly

My hair is long and I have a beard.. As far as I know I haven't gone out stabbing people and causing chaos..

Is this the wild west or what?

Eric Camilleri

Jan 5th 2009, 16:41

To the antigun brigade
Don't get off your armchairs !
IT WAS ONLY CLUBS AND KNIVES.

As for those raising political smoke, the problem in our country is lack of severe punishment for those convicted of crime. We are so slack when it comes to handing down a punishment that getting caught for whatever crime or offence is simply a non deterrent.

lgalea

Jan 5th 2009, 15:42

Alex Coppola
Do you remember the gold shipment vanishing on its way from Luqa just before the election?
Since you brought politics in, how many bank robberies have we had under EFApn and Gonzipn?
How many people have been robbed, mugged and murdered under EFApn and Gonzipn Alex?
As I have always said, thieves and murderers have no political allegiance. Their only allegiance is to themselves.

P Aquilina
Are you now trying to deny the truth because if does not suit you? This is certainly not to excuse such acts, but do you deny that stress for a long time can lead people to do things which they would not normally do once a certain break point happens?

Miriam Ellul
Agree with you 100.

MARK MIFSUD BONNICI

Jan 5th 2009, 15:11

ARE THE USUAL ANTI-GUN BRIGADE GOING TO CALL FOR A BAN ON KNIVES?

DEFINITELY NOT THE CASE, AS THIS TIME ROUND IT WAS NOT THE INFAMOUS "HUNTING SHOTGUN" BEING MENTIONED.

PERFECT SILENCE ON A CRIME THAT DOES NOT INVOLVE A "HUNTING SHOTGUN".

NO BETTER SIGN OF PERFECT HYPOCRISY!!!

THANK YOU FOR SHOWING ALL YOUR TRUE INTENTIONS.

Matthew Agius

Jan 5th 2009, 15:08

@michael fenech

I'm amazed how you can manage to link everything to partisan politics and reduce every discussion and debate into this.

Can we not discuss freely in this country without politicising everything?

Thumbs Up @ Alex Coppola

John B.Vincenti

Jan 5th 2009, 14:34

What!!!!, no guns were used?????
The Holplophobes aren't going to be happy with this.
Ok, aichmophobes it's your turn to have your say.
I personally have become quite Anthropophobic, for it is they who do the actual damage.

Alex Coppola

Jan 5th 2009, 14:19

@ michael fenech
So before 1987 Malta was almost crime-free!! Do you remember one of the greatest bank hold-ups in Malta's history - the one at Mid-Med (now HSBC) Luqa's branch when more than a quarter of a million Euros where stolen and a friend of mine who was a bank employee at that time was held at gun point? If you are old enough do you remember way back in 1972 (a fresh labour govt) the famous Mgarr Barclays bank hold up when a bank employee was innocently killed?

Please stop linking political matters with every crime. It simply does not make sense.

michael fenech

Jan 5th 2009, 14:02

Yes this is the fruit we are bearing from 20 years of free for all, living beyoned our means,do as you please PN policies.

As you can see poeple it's out of control and falling apart. WAKE MALTA.

A Formosa

Jan 5th 2009, 13:58

...always the same situation in G'mangia!! Why!??? At least if the Goverment wants do something good.. just RE OPEN the police station in Pieta! AND this time dear Goverment IN FRONT OF THE DETOX... cause people are FED UP now!.. expecially me and other people who live in that area!! its always the same YEAR AFTER YEAR.. HOW COME!!!! Tal Bizgha!!!! Anqas karozza barra ma tista tafda barra, ghax ukoll jipruvaw jifthuha... personalment ghax ma naffordjax nixtri garax kelli nonfoq fuq 150 LIRA MALTIN eqwivalenti ghal 349 EURO!!!! minhabba il hmerijiet li jinqalaw GWARDA MANGIA HILL!!!! FILKAS NITLOB IL GVERN JISTAX JISSUSIDJANI UKOLL FUQ DAWN LISPEJJEZ GHALXEJN !!

Stephen Sammut

Jan 5th 2009, 13:57

Back to the Dark Ages! I love it...every man for himself.

maria eleonora schembri

Jan 5th 2009, 13:46

I would like to reassure Mr Hendrie that Malta is not a violent place. Unfortunate incidents do occur here as in every other part of the world and I can assure you that Malta is a far quieter and more civilised place than some cities around the world, let alone countries. If you care to find out more about our wonderful country, please feel free to check out tourism sites where you'll find more information about Malta. And please remember that most of the time, it's the unpleasant incidents that make it to the papers rather than the pleasant ones, which on the whole are generally more numerous. Malta is a great country for people who enjoy quiet walks, beautiful beaches, breathtaking views and majestic architecture. History in Malta is dominant of course, but if you also enjoy nightlife and genuine Mediterranean food - Malta is the place to visit! I sincerely hope you will visit and if you do so, may you have the best holiday of your life!

Jeremy J Camilleri

Jan 5th 2009, 13:44

Liam Kelly..I ve got long hair and a beard, and I don't go around stabbing people.....

Rather stereotypical are you not?

Now if you had mentioned the word African instead of beard and long hair, that would have caused an uproar!

P Aquilina

Jan 5th 2009, 13:35

@lgalea
'There is so much stress, bills to pay, wages and salaries cannot meet the bills and expenses, trying to work more than on job to meet expenses, losing work, taxes upon taxes, all add up. This is where the Maltese people are being led'.

Mr lgalea amazing that even out of such incidents you try to take political advantage!

With apologists like you no wonder Labour can't make it to government!

Ryan Bugeja

Jan 5th 2009, 13:24

Why are we all surprised? We ended 2008 with cowboys (in Xemxija, Qormi and Mqabba) and we're starting it off with more cowboys on our streets... beware people... they are spreading!

errick hendrie

Jan 5th 2009, 13:11

and i thought i heard some one say malta is the safest place to visit...and they love each other there...and re very friendly to tourist and visitors...i just wonder...i ve been planning to visit malta some time this year..but the recent happenings are giving me alot of cause to wonder.....

patrick camilleri

Jan 5th 2009, 13:09

People are what they are brought up to be.

If you ask me we are bringing up a generation of young people who thing the world owes them something. If they don't get what they want they resort to violence .... verbal or otherwise.

Whilst the punishments we endured were clearly wrong, we need to bring back some SERIOUS discipline to our schools.

Miriam Ellul

Jan 5th 2009, 12:54

@Dr. Etienne Calleja
We are only saying that stress can lead to such acts....nobody is justifying them.

Alex Coppola

Jan 5th 2009, 12:49

@lgalea
Can you confirm that these people have an ever increasing stress? Do you know them personally?
Such incidents have been happening since the beginning of mankind, are happening everyday all over the world and will continue till the end of mankind, so it might be stress but it could also be an on the spot argument due to a thousand reasons.

Miriam Ellul

Jan 5th 2009, 12:37

@Igalea
No i didn't....or perhaps I'd rather say that if there was a fraction of happiness it is dissolving...and@L.Muscat --yes I believe that it is due to stress. I don't think there is anything funny in comments that suggest that all this is due to stress. It doesn't mean that all the stress is government related....it can be related to many other reasons. Marital problems, finance, work...and bills...why not? People are working overtime or part time to make ends meet.....so they become tired and anxious...many others have a totally opposite problem...unemployed....Do you think that these problems do not stress people.....which lead them to short fused arguments?? Any way, as I always say, this is only my opinion!

Anthony Formosa

Jan 5th 2009, 12:35

Wow three men injured in one night with knives and solid objects, hmmmm let's ban all knives now to be more safer in wonderland. Where are those who wanted to ban shotguns? just because they don't agree with hunting.

Alfred Camilleri

Jan 5th 2009, 12:18

Mr Coppola, why are you taking I. Galea and A. Borg so seriously. One of them, Galea by name, is always blaming our government for whatever happens in the world, whether it's an economic recession, wars in Africa, a tsunami, an earthquake in China and what not.

Dr. Etienne Calleja

Jan 5th 2009, 12:16

That's it then! Its settled. The jury is out and the thesis of the defence has been accepted by the nine. Stress is now the cause for all human evil. Given that this shall now enter into the annals of Maltese jurisprudence, I am now safe in the knowledge that when I receive my next electricity bill, I can venutre out of my house and bonk the next man on the head with impunity!

I shall then slaughter a few people prior to sending my tax return and proceed to impale a few passers-by when my NI contributions fall due. It shall then, of course, be incument upon me to test the development of the law, by next trouncing my wife when she returns with the shopping bill from the supermarket.

These are everyday occurences, and the fact that they do happen does not mean that we any less happier, that the culprits are being treated lightly or that the Government is to blame for any of this. Rather it may be symptomatic of our Latin blood.

Dr. Etienne A. Calleja is a former member of the Malta Police Force and a lawyer in private practice

L. Muscat

Jan 5th 2009, 12:00

Certain comments are sure funny. Stress!!!!!!!!!!!!!

M. Ellul

Jan 5th 2009, 11:52

LOL! Maltese the happiest people on Earth?!?!?!

lgalea

Jan 5th 2009, 11:40

Alex Coppola
Can you deny that the people have an ever increasing stress?
What will a person under stress do?

John Spiteri, J Azzopardi
Agree with you.

Miriam Ellul
Did you believe that tripe?

Alex Coppola

Jan 5th 2009, 11:06

@ Igalea & A Borg
How can you conclude that this is all due to stress?
How can you jump into such hasty conclusions? Were you both in the midst of these arguments? Reading between the lines you are stating that such arguments are all due to the current state of affiars our government is leading us to. It seems that everytime such incidents occur in these islands all blame is pointed to the government!!
Sorry I definitely do not agree with you both until we hear the conclusions from the police.

John Spiteri

Jan 5th 2009, 11:05

it all stems from the predominant liberal ideology, where criminals we are told ad nauseum are 'victims' of society and should hence be treated lightly. add this to the culture of entitlement and the implosion of moral values and you get a mess. this i fear is only the tip of the iceberg and with the rapid 'progress' of family breakdown, it will get uglier - much uglier.

Miriam Ellul

Jan 5th 2009, 10:56

If I'm not wrong some few months ago I read this article:

'According to the World Database of Happiness, the Maltese people are the happiest people on earth. This emerged from a recent study conducted by Professor Ruut Veenhoven of Rotterdam's Erasmus University, in which 100,000 people in 90 countries were asked to rate, on a scale of 1-10, how happy they were. The residents of this tiny Mediterranean archipelago – who number around 400,000 – were found to have the highest ‘life happiness index’, with 74% of the population describing themselves as happy'.

Is this changing? Why?

J Azzopardi

Jan 5th 2009, 10:36

The personal space of people is diminishing drastically resulting from overcrowding...just like mice in a laboratory which become aggressive when crowded together in small spaces as their personal space is invaded.

Liam Kelly

Jan 5th 2009, 10:35

were these cavemen....i mean men... going around with mallets in their hands and had long hair and beards by any chance? I think i saw them in Ghar Hasan caves yesterday.

lgalea

Jan 5th 2009, 10:35

A.Borg
Agree with you.
There is so much stress, bills to pay, wages and salaries cannot meet the bills and expenses, trying to work more than on job to meet expenses, losing work, taxes upon taxes, all add up. This is where the Maltese people are being led.

A.Borg

Jan 5th 2009, 09:37

One Fact is that these incidents are increasing. One Major Factor, which contributes to these is, without any Doubt---STRESS in General.
One can even observe, just by walking on a pavement, Men/Women shouting as they are late for an Errand or work!! My friends this is not as much as abroad, in my opinion of course??

edward bartolo

Jan 5th 2009, 08:20

Back to the Dark Ages!

I think, it is more accurate to substitute "argument" by "violent argument". Arguing has nothing to do with fighting! If you don't believe me, ask a philosopher, because philosophers, are well known for arguing, but they, unlike some of us, do not resort to stabbing!