
Sunday, 4th January 2009
Israel exceeding limits of self-defence - de Marco
A woman cries during and anti-Israel demonstration in Amsterdam yesterday.
Israel is exceeding the limits of self-defence in response to an unwarranted attack by Hamas, according to President Emeritus Guido de Marco.
The way the Gaza Strip was being attacked made "martyrs" out of certain people who had provoked the crisis in the Middle East, Prof. de Marco said when contacted for a reaction to the bombings.
Around 400 Palestinians have so far been killed in the week-long campaign - which is a response to rocket attacks on Israel - and the UN believes 25 per cent of these are civilians. Outgoing US President George Bush has blamed the violence in Gaza on Hamas.
However, Prof. de Marco said the world would have to wait and see whether history would repeat itself two-and-a-half years after Israel launched its military offensive of Southern Lebanon, which had made "martyrs and heroes" of Hamas.
Some Middle East analysts believe the offensive is a cynical move to boost domestic popularity. Israel's elections are due to take place on February 10 after Tzipi Livni, currently Foreign Minister, failed to form a government in October to replace that of outgoing Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.
Prof. de Marco said: "Yes, the election may be playing a part in the whole situation..."
The former UN General Assembly president, an expert on Middle East affairs, also agrees with comments that the current Israeli regime is being strengthened as a result of its attacks on Gaza.
Prof. de Marco emphasised the need for the forces of diplomacy to bring about a solution to the war, and applauded Europe's attempts to intervene.
However, Walid Nabhan, a Palestinian scientist who has been living in Malta for the past 18 years, is highly critical of Europe's political response to the attacks, and insisted that Europe was still reeling in "Islamophobia".
The 42-year-old, who comes from a family of refugees who fled to Jordan in 1948, said: "I'm angry, distressed and paralysed at the fact that I can't do anything amid this bloodbath," he said.
It took Mr Nabhan two days to track down his brother in Gaza. "He fled from his place... it's hell on earth there."
He narrates a story about his brother to show the extent to which Palestinians living in Gaza were cooped up in a prison-like environment, even though his brother openly opposes Hamas.
Eighteen months ago, Mr Nabhan's brother was diagnosed with cancer and required treatment abroad. It took him four months to obtain the necessary permits to seek treatment in Amman. After reaching the Jordanian capital, he was told it is too late.
"He is now waiting for death, cooped up in his own land like a prisoner - and there are hundreds like him. Even in times of war, you simply don't treat patients that way."
When he last visited Ramallah three years ago, Mr Nabhan said he felt like a stranger in his own country - he had to wait a month before being granted a permit.
Mr Nabhan said the Israelis had been preparing the offensive for six months, and that the Palestinians' rocket-firing was merely an excuse to unleash the onslaught.
"The rockets the people are firing from Gaza are like fireworks. They have nothing to fight with. In return, how can the Israelis punish 1.5 million people with no jobs and medication and who live in an area the size of Malta?"
Mr Nabhan said that the Israeli attack would only serve to create more radicalisation and sympathy for Hamas, a militant group, which he believes would have eventually toned down its stance towards Israel, the way Fatah did.
He claims the real reasons behind the attacks are the Israeli elections - "Palestinian blood is Israel's winning card, so much so that (Defence Minister) Ehud Barak has now surged ahead in the polls."
Yisrael Ohayon, 46, an Israeli who has been living in Malta for the past 14 years, dismisses claims that the attack was prompted by the elections and believes the Gaza attack should have taken place earlier.
For seven years, Hamas rockets have been raining on innocent Israelis, he said.
"Whoever argues that the Israeli response is heavy-handed has not lived in a country which has been under incessant rocket attacks," he says.
Like Hezbollah, he describes Hamas as a puppet regime of Iran - a convenient means for President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to attack Israel via remote control.
Mr Ohayon insists that Israel was attacking strategic points in Gaza and most of the civilian casualties were the result of Hamas using civilians as human shields. Hamas on the other hand had systematically been shooting at schools and civilians for years.
Israel should only stop its offensive once Hamas stops firing rockets, something Mr Ohayon believes will never happen.
"Now that we've started this, we can't stop and repeat what happened in Lebanon. It would be the equivalent of stopping an antibiotics course in the middle, and risking your health getting worse. This time we have to go all the way."
Mr Ohayon said the Palestinians had merely used Gaza as a launch pad against Israel, rather than attempt to build an infrastructure and make a living off it. But ever since the death of Yasser Arafat, Palestinian regimes had been rife with corruption and the millions granted by the EU had been squandered.
"The Palestinians are their own worst enemies," he said.
Mr Ohayon said Israel could not risk opening its doors to Palestinians, since history had repeatedly shown that terrorists had managed to infiltrate and wreak havoc.
So why has the West largely condemned Israel's attack on Gaza?
"The Arabs are good at manipulating the media and portraying themselves in a David and Goliath scenario," he said.







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Above law?
What are the borders of Israel state??
How many UN and Security Council resolutions were issued against Israel, and how many of these resolutions did Israel abide with?
But surely you don't think that the Arabs that settled there afterwards were actually the descendants of the Canaanite polytheists that had lived there before?Of course not. Those Arabs came later. The Arab Islamic Empire under Caliph Umar conquered Jerusalem along with the lands of Mesopotamia, Syria, Palaestina, and Egypt in 634 CE.
So much for history.
But anyway. Let's go back to the last century now. You do know that many Arabs left that area because when the Arab states attacked Israel, they urged the Arabs to get out so that they don't get killed along with the Jews?
regards
From the comments down here I can see many peoples are Confusing Jews with Israel, with Zionists – again, the latter is a movement not associated with the Jews, and is the core of the Middle East conflict. (I suggest people to read about the Zionist movement)
Some powerful media resources portrayed HAMAS (before not long ago it was all the Palestinians) as terrorist – Admitting so means, we Maltese were terrorist when defending our land, so, were the German, French and American…etc. Portraying your enemy as the biggest EVIL on earth is the old fashion psychological technique of wars. Always depend on which side of the fence one stands
Good point except that the cananite were not Arabs!!! Arabs came into palestine from what is now saudi arabia after 640 ad. Also there was never an Arabic palastine ...... it was always a land ocupied by a "super power" inhibited by vey diverse people ... after the roman empire west and east came the caliphates then the ottoman empire [turks not arabs] engilsh and now the mess we are in. However your point remains valid........ the i was here first mentality should stop....peopl live in the present not past . The Arabs should mature and accept Israel's right to exist and the Jews should remember the thousands of years of persecution they uffered and not impose iyt on others.
Just to get your history right, prior to the Jewish crossing from Eygpt the land that is today called Palestine was a land inhabited by a people called Cananites and not Jews - King David occupied Jerusalem (then a Cananite town that would be the ansestors of modern arabs and not Jews.... and the occupation was done in god's name). Thats where you need to start from if you are to discuss old and older.
regards
S Snegereva
Say it again??
I WELL AWARE THAT JEWS LIVED IN PALESTINE 2000 YEARS AGO AND WERE KICKED OUT BY THE ROMANS
BUT THIS DOES NOT GIVE 20 CENTURY JEWS TO COME FROM EUROPE AND EVICT ARABS THAT HAVE BEEN THIER HUNDREDS OF YEARS BY MOVING IN SLOWLY BY TIME
60 YEARS HAD PASSED AND ISRAEL HAD NOT PAID A CENT IN COMPENSATION TO THE PALESTNIANS THAT NOW LIVE WORSE THAN RATS
Wrong. Jews have always mantained a presence in the region. Palestine was the name the Roamns gave Israel once they exiled the Jews from their homeland. They did this in order to obliterate the connection between the Jews and their homeland, Israel.
There was a Jewish population in Palestine continuously. Even after the Jewish state was ended by the Romans, Jewish communities continued to exist.
So the presence of the Jews in Palestine is actually much older than that of the Arabs.
Mr. Olmert
Please stop the systematic genocide heavily done by Mr. Sharon (actually by all Ex PM's of Israel).
Occupation = war, and Infanticides during warsis a crime of war.
It was the arabs who started a war on Israel in 1948 - and lost it. Had they won it they would have displaced every last Israeli themselves. Instead they lost the war, and Israel kept the arabs, who today live a respected life within Israel, even represented in the Knesset.
The arabs got over 80% of the land called the Romans called Palestine (Philistines thought to be of greek origin - not arab), most of which is today's Jordan (1946). Not content they want the remaining 20% also. When they got some 60% of arable land within the remaining 20% (1947/8), the still were not happy, and tried to take the rest by force (1948/67/73 etc). They lost each time, and by any rules of war, they lost their own territory too.
Israel will give captured land back 'tomorrow', with ONE precondition. That the arabs do not lay any further claim to Israel's territory.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel
Can you please tell me: How many UN resoluations were issued against Israel, and how many of these resoluations did Israel abide with?
Take your time - I am not in a hurry to get an answer. Thank you
For every Israeli killed, 100 palestinians are killed.
I understand that the plight of both sides is complex.
However by the death toll it transpires that action in self defence is simply disproporianate.
IF THE WEST BANK AND GAZA DID NOT BELONG TO THE PALESTNIANS WHO HAVE BEEN THIER HUNDREDS OF YEARS WHO DO THEY BELONG TO?
JEWS FROM EASTERN EUROPE WHO NEVER SET A FOOT ON PALESTINE BEFORE?
PERHAPS YOUR BLIND EYE SUPORT FOR ISRAEL AND THE JEWS PLAYS WITH YOUR JUGDEMENT BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY IN THE WORLD EVEN THE USA CONSIDERS THE WEST BANK AND GAZA AND EAST JERUSALEM AS PALESTNIAN LAND
What are the borders of Israel state?
L. Galea
Short comment and says it all
What is Illegal would always remain illegal.
History shows that the Jews have robbed the Palestinians of their land to build the state of Israel.
You said that "To pity the people of Gaza is to patronize them, implying they do not control their fate, the state of their government, their own actions."
They choose Hamas as their government in free elections. Why did Israel , the USA and other european states not recognize their democratic decision?
Or is a decision democratic only when it pleases Israel, the USA and certain european states?
He who sows hw ind reaps the whirlwind.
Many Hamas officials are hiding in mosques throughout Gaza, out of the assumption that Israel will avoid attacking Muslim houses of worship. Dozens of the mosques have been turned into weapons stockpiles and command centers.
Weapons factories used by Hamas have been wiped out in the offensive and dozens of tunnels used to smuggle arms into the coastal territory have been destroyed.
According to an Israeli Military Intelligence assessment, Israel's air offensive on Gaza has thus far destroyed one-third of the Hamas' rocket arsenal. Israel this time round will not stop until all it's objectives are reached. They learned the lesson in Lebanon and they will see it through this time round.
You ask me to "Go tell it to the Marines."
I will simply ask you to look up the innumerable resolutions, condemning the settlements on Palestinian land, that have been passed through the United Nations, and which have been largely ignored by Israel - with the backing of the United States and their, very handy, annual gift of $2.5 BILLION in military aid.
It is useless to argue on these pages. Only time will tell the outcome. However, as someone has said, 'you can break my body, but you can never break my will'.
NO Occupation = No war
Occupation = Wars
Israel is simply more like an army looking for land.
They will never be safe, so the Holy Bible says.
Another consecutive failure for Israel?
Israel high leveled inelegancy unit (MOSAD) and the state-of-the-art-WAR MACHINE failed to gather the minimum information about the ‘fire-works’ fired by HAMAS ‘ I will refer to them as terrorist group just to appease some peoples’ down here’.
The new wars order has changed. Wars bankrupted the big and only power!
You can super master the sky and randomly kill civilians and demolish a city in few days, but, you can never destroy peoples will. I bring to my mind another 'terrorists’ – Hizbuallah of Lebanon
USA soldiers are still getting stewed in Iraq’s oil while NATO are scrambling over the bumpy roads in Afghanistan. What’s amazing is that , both Ms. Tzipi Livni and Mr. Olmart didn’t learn ONE single lesson from Lebanon war!
Although Israel has the fourth nuclear arsenal power coupled with the USA unlimited supports, still they will never win a war over Palestinians. The latter have both RIGHT AND WILL. History proved that people's will never be defeated!
HAMAS rockets remind me when Maltese men, women and children used to use boiled oil over the Turks!
The Jews are like Christians-Muslims-Atheist-Hindu- etc... The Jews peoples have all right to live and feel safe in any corner of the globe. The question is-Why it has the to be on the Palestinians’ territory?
Reading The Balfour Declaration of (dated 2 November 1917) it says it all.
Should the Jew-state be borderless? A Jew-state to include parts of lands from all neighboring countries?
We should never allow prejudices or disliking to Arabs or Muslims to twist FACTS on the ground!
For a peaceful Middle East, to discourage nuclear proliferation is a MUST. The international community should head this way whether it’s for Israel or Iran.
(i) You build illegally on MY land.
(ii) I throw stones at you and set my dogs against you in an attempt to drive you off MY land.
(iii) You run over my family with several 4x4's given to you by your friends.
How do you correlate that with the concept of 'self-defence'?
The average Palestinian deserves our sympathy and support but Hamas is treating them all as human targets against Israel's legitimate self preservation tactics. Who would not shoot at someone attacking his family. Nevermind if he's wielding a knife or sending a Qassam rocket? Are there limits to self defence? Palestinian terrorists blew planeloads of innocent people out of the sky. Those people were completely unarmed.
I do not recall seeing a statement from Professor De Marco condemning Ahmadinejad for denying the holocaust and saying that Israel should be wiped out.
EU presidency: Israel ground op in Gaza 'defensive not offensive' !
Saudi Arabia has adopted the Egyptian stance, which sees Hamas as the primary culprit for the current situation, and both countries have a double account to settle - with Hamas, for not adhering to the provisions of the 2007 Mecca Agreement, intended to end the group's feud with Fatah, and for sabotaging the planned November summit in Cairo; and with Syria for torpedoing talks between the rival groups
Hamas are a problem to all the Arab states who understand that they have their own radical elements back home, including Muslim brotherhoods in different places
Usually people are allowed to flee the area. Thats also will lead to a genocide of people.
If one substitutes 'Israel is' for the words 'The Arabs are the above statement would read:
""Israel is good at manipulating the media and portraying themselves in a David and Goliath scenario,"
This would be a more objective assessment of the true situation. For the past sixty plus years, Israel has been playing the 'victim' card ad nauseam. The ANNUAL United States military aid of some $2.5 BILLION continues to allow them them to hang on to that preposterous position, disregarding the opinion of the rest of the western world. Meanwhile, the toothless United Nations, under the sword of a US veto each time that an Israeli situation crops up, continues to wallow ineffectively.
The residents of Gaza, and the Palestinians as a whole, say they would like their own state. Yet such state must be earned. And earning a state – a piece of land to call your own – takes much more than incessant whining to the international community coupled with a desire to drive out the Jews. It requires inner strength and the ability to create rather than destroy. This is what Israelis proved time and again for over 60 years, the Palestinians have yet to prove.
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/headlines/interview
Palestine will never be able to stand up and defend its people as the big brother assistance afforded by the USA to Israel will never be afforded to Palestine, the balance of Jewish influence in the US Senate will make sure of that.
In the meantime the occupation continues and the innocent lives will also continue to be lost!