Malta repatriated 3,020 migrants since 2004

Eric Soames

Jan 2nd 2009, 14:17

Joe Vella: It's a question of dignifying all work. It might be taboo to work with rubbish but it is necessary for health and sanitary reasons; so why not call it the Dept of Health and Sanitation? And, in view of dire consequences as seen in times of a strike if not collected, why not attach decent pay and conditions to the job? You know the old saying; you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

lgalea

Jan 2nd 2009, 08:55

Joe Vella
Maltese workers do not do some work because under Gonzipn employers only pay miserly wages. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS do this work because they have free lodgings, food, telephone and internet service, water and electricity, health and social services including children allowance, money in their pockets, without having paid one single cent to the Maltese exchequer, and work on the black economy. All the services to ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are paid by US, Maltese taxpayers.

Workers from eastern europe and other countries from around the world are also ILLEGAL IMIGRANTS because they overstayed their visa, work on the black economy and share single rooms between themselves so they all can afford to undercut the Maltese workers wages and working conditions.

You can go to industrial estates and see factories who are supposed to have closed down or reduced their work force who have discharged Maltese workers and employed foreign workers and ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS behind closed doors.

This is the real situation under EFApn and now under Gonzipn governments who were and still are lackeys where friend and friends of friends, the eu and foreigners are concerned.

The PN Governments have sent Malta to the dogs.

J Farrugia

Jan 2nd 2009, 08:07

dal ministru jrid jghaddi zm-zmien bin-nies maltin?? Kemm fadal immigranti llegali f'Malta u fejn qeghdin ghidulna. U kemm qed jigu jiswew lilna l-poplu Malti u ghawdxi.

Denis Catania

Jan 2nd 2009, 02:47

@Joe Vella: We send our boys and girls in uniform in danger 80, 90 even 150 miles to pick people up where we can't explore for oil. Do you think is fair?? Do you think this government is serving our people right?? Is the EU serving our people right?? Because the Libyan government is putting these poor souls at sea and the same Libyan government won't let us explore for oil.
As far as Maltese won't do certain work. The companies with these contracts/tenders for rubbish removal is taking advantage of the situation, by hiring ILLEGALS w/permits and sometimes no permits to do the work for less far less than a Maltese can survive on. Please note these people go to work and there room, food and beverage paid by the government. Except the Maltese government goes a little further with calling cards and pocket money. How can a Maltese worker compete with that?? One don't need to be in Malta to know what is going on in a 126sq mile area. Little click of the mouse will tell you. i also use an old invention called theTELEPHONE.

lgalea

Jan 1st 2009, 22:07

Joe Vella
What you say about Maltese workers not wanting to do that work is absolute rubbish. They do not want to do it not because they don't want to but because those employing them pay peanuts to have more money in their pockets. In simple words, they EXPLOIT the workers.
Moreover, ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS do not pay rent, water and electricity, telephones bills (they get free cards for which WE pay as we pay for everything, they work on the black economy, they get free internet, money from our taxes to spend.... That's why they can afford to get lower wages and robbing the Maltese citizens, our brothers and sisters, out of their work.

As regards police picking up ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS who work without a permit and expelling them, try to pull the other one Joe.

Joe Vella

Jan 1st 2009, 21:05

@ Eric Soame

I cannot understand why one would compare economies of different countries when the fundamentals are literally world apart.

Here in Malta for some reason, Maltese workers find it that it is a taboo for someone to work to what you refer to as a sanitation worker, and has not nothing to do with pay or anything else. There is that mentally that does who work in this field is somehow looked down on. Whether it is a reality or a state of mind, that is another question.

Joe Vella

Jan 1st 2009, 18:37

@ Denis Catania

Denis the work that the illegal immigrants who have been given a work permit are carrying out work that the Maltese workers are refusing to do or their is a of shortage of labour in that field. You by living in America, it is obvious doesn't know what is happening on the ground here in Malta.

Malta's Search and Rescue territorial area is far greater then that of it's Territorial Maritime Area.

Eric Soame

Jan 1st 2009, 18:22

Joe Vella: As has been pointed out in other comments, pay is being forced downward and that is why people with real bills to pay shy away from certain occupations. In New York, sanitation workers are well paid, provided with safety equipment and medical benefits and is certainly not a job left only to (legal) immigrants. In fact most, as far as I've noticed, are from Irish and Italian families that have been here for generations.

Denis Catania

Jan 1st 2009, 17:38

@Joe Vella: Who picked up the garbage, before the illegals?? Who worked construction, before the illegals?? Who shoveled the snow, before the illegals?? Who stocked the shelves, before the illegals?? Who swept the streets, before the illegals??

What higher authority gave the Maltese government permission to go and pick these people 80, 90 and 150 miles away and bring them somewhere they don't want to be?? Just so they can pick up the white mans garbage.This is called holding someone against his/her will.(Kidnapping)and asking them to do something that is not desirably. WHO'S THE RACISTS NOW??

Lawrence Martinelli

Jan 1st 2009, 17:36

Don't panick ! Don't panick !
What is the problem of thousands more " boat people " coming to Malta......
( with its immmense territory scarcely populated ? ) .
Why I was paid the air fare to leave Malta in 1962 ?........to come to London & visit
Buckingham Palace & Madame Toussaud , of course.

Joe Vella

Jan 1st 2009, 17:35

@ Louise Vella

Your advise to pick up Illegal working Immigrants is light year to late. The Police are already doing so and expelling those caught.

I don't know what is wrong with you Socialist that always come up with such bright ideas that always turn out that the Government have already completely implemented or they are already in the Pipeline.

Yours idea is light years to late as was Joseph Muscat idea to operate the Reverses Osmosis during the night instead of the day.

lgalea

Jan 1st 2009, 17:02

Helena Psaila
We do not believe what you and the media have said about those repatriated. If they wanted they could have stayed in Libya where they had been living for years.

J Martinelli
Why don't you petition the Canadian Government so that you could take them to Canada and keep them comfortable at your expense?

While the authorities are acting like the three monkeys where unregistered work without paying any taxes, NI etc by ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS is concerned because they are mostly employed by friends or friends of friends of Gonzipn, they just cut off from the registering system Maltese workers who are seeking to work for some petty excuse.

So in actual fact there are many more Maltese workers seeking jobs than the official figures suggest. That's apart from the African ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS and also those from eastern europe, the Middle East, Asia, Philippines, and other countries who are lowering wages and working conditions of Maltese workers.

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS can do so because they have free lodging, free water, electricity, telephones (they are provided with free cards) no taxes, free internet, pocket money, free food which we pay for etc

Joe Vella

Jan 1st 2009, 16:53

@ Louise Vella

Illegal immigrants who have been given a working permit to work are the ones that are collecting your Garbage, rain or shine. If the Authorities take your advice and there are NO Maltese national to take up these responsibilities; Would you be the first one in line to perform such task? I might add that pickup garbage doesn't sound to sexy, but it is an important task that needs to be done for the health of everyone.

Michelle Dali

Jan 1st 2009, 14:56

'Dr Maroni... said that once the patrols start, landings in Lampedusa would become a thing of the past. Reacting to this, the Home Affairs Ministry spokesman said Malta stands to gain tremendously...'

I sincerely hope that this is really what will happen! What I fear is that the joint Italy-Libya patrol boats will SEND THE BOATS PACKED WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS to Malta instead of turning them back to Libya. If this is the case, this will dramatically exacerbate an already alarming situation for Malta.

We shall have to wait and see what happens...God help our beloved country!

Tony Cassar

Jan 1st 2009, 14:19

@lgalea

Your calculation is based on the false premise that the illegal immigrants that land here want to stay here. their final destination is always the mainland. it is common knowledge that very few of them stay here.

in fact practically all those that manage to get a refugee status or temporary humanitarian protection (more than half those that landed this year) apply for a travel document and leave Malta as soon as they get enough money for a ticket.

Another common knowledge is that those that are failed asylum seekers leave the island illegally.

The number of boat people roaming around cannot be obtained through a simple subtraction such as yours.

J Martinelli

Jan 1st 2009, 13:55

@ IGalea


“All these (9000+) are a burden on the Maltese citizens and are taking work from Maltese workers”.

According to your informed statistic, Malta is short 3000+ workers (9000 working immigrants less 6000 Maltese registering for work).

Keep the rhetoric up!

louise vella

Jan 1st 2009, 13:55

I suggest that the Minister of Home Affairs assigns Superintendent Valletta as head of a police task force to crack down on illegally employed illegal immigrants.

If the recession brings a rise in unemployment we certainly do not want illegal immigrants competing with Maltese workers for jobs and bringing down the level of wages.

Lawrence Martinelli

Jan 1st 2009, 12:51

Sooooo.....Italy is alarmed.....2,400 "visitors" went to their two Small Med.Islands....(quickly taken to their mainland) .
Lucky Malta ONLY had 139....yet....if one compares the size of Italy to Malta's.....it's a miserly 140 times.
Zoooo....That means Malta welcomed 19,500 "visitors" !
Great !!!!
A little bird told me that the " Knights of the EU " are shining up their armours , rusting off
their swords' blades and sailing off to save Malta............like in the good old days.
God Bless " The Knights of the EU " !!!!!

Joe Vella

Jan 1st 2009, 12:44

@ Louise Vella

You keep asking the same question over and over again. It is quite obvious that such statistic doesn't exists. How can one comply something that one do not know that is taking place. If you know of someone that is working illegally than as a citizen has the obligation to inform the appropriate Authorities to remedy the situation.

It is often that we hear that the Authorities picked up workers who where working illegally.

lgalea

Jan 1st 2009, 12:04

Approx 12,000 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS
Approx 3,000 repatriated
Result 9,000 roaming ILLEGALLY among Maletse citizens

Then we have thousands who came here but overstayed their visa.

All these are a burden on the Maltese citizens and are taking work from Maltese workers.

All of them must be expelled and banned for life from ever entering Malta again.

Joe Vella

Jan 1st 2009, 12:01

@ Charles Sammut

If someone entered Malta legally and overstayed his/her visit, the Authorities all have to do is pick him/her and put him/her on a flight and expel him/her out of the Country. Repatriation is another issue altogether.

louise vella

Jan 1st 2009, 11:05

In the above report I counted the words ‘migrant’, ‘immigrant’ and ‘migration’ 14 times.

The word ‘refugee’ does not occur even once.

If anybody still had any doubts, that is ample proof that we are dealing with migrants, not refugees. So they should be of no concern to UNHCR (R for Refugees).

Helena Psaila

Jan 1st 2009, 10:32

Happy new year to all the immigrants shivering in Tent City for eighteen months of their precious lives.

Helena Psaila

Jan 1st 2009, 10:25

I strongly hope that the authorities researched the immigrants' origins well before sending them back, so that we will not hear a repeat of the horror story of two years ago, when repats were tortured and imprisoned on their return home.

Denis Catania

Jan 1st 2009, 09:36

HOW MANY CAME IN SINCE 2004?? We would also like to know how many illegals were arrested for crimes since 2004?? How many escapees?? How many escapees are still on the loose?? This are four very fair questions. TRANSPARENCY PLEASE.

Criss Camilleri

Jan 1st 2009, 09:11

How nice! So it's less than 1000 per year. Please do tell us, & how many did arrive Illegaly in Malta, since 2004?

louise vella

Jan 1st 2009, 09:06

Can the Minister of Home Affairs inform the public how many Egyptians and Tunisians are residing and working in Malta illegally?

If he does not have the information, can he collect it?

Charles Sammut

Jan 1st 2009, 08:49

Can the Home Affairs Minister give a breakdown by nationality of these 3,020 migrants who were repatriated? Can we also have a breakdown of their mode of entry into Malta?

How many of these 3,020 entered Malta illegally by sea?

It is no use bragging about numbers if the vast majority entered with a valid visa and documents through the airport and then overstayed. Those are easy cases to deal with and are not such a serious problem. These rarely become a financial burden on the taxpayer.

So let us have the full story and not use statistics for propaganda purposes by witholding essential information.