Protest against massacre in Gaza held in Valletta

Joseph Aquilina

Jan 10th 2009, 19:46

@Ian Ellul
The FACT:
1. The Land of Israel belongs to the Jews as it has since God gave it to them - period.

Very well sad Ian. God even called ISRAEL by name and that will stand FOR EVER. AMEN.

Joseph Aquilina, CANADA

Alison Natalie Keeler

Jan 7th 2009, 02:59

In my opinion, the situation tragically demonstrates that violence breeds violence; contempt breeds contempt. Conversely, understanding breeds understanding; compassion breeds compassion; trust breeds trust; and ultimately, love breeds love.

As with all difficult situations in life, whatever our age, race, gender or religion, it sometimes takes a few hard knocks for us to realise (a) we are all imperfect (b) other people are not us and we have no control over other people, only ourselves (c) with rights, come responsibilities (d) all life is seasonal; there are ups, downs and plateaus (e)None of us can really know anything beyond our own existence - and only God can judge. How sad it makes me to learn of more violence, more pain, more deaths, more destruction, more terror, more dislocated families, businesses, communities, and so it goes on. Hurting us all. Be it directly or indirectly, wars cost the world.

Whatever our stance in life, our background or upbringing, surely we all agree that war achieves nothing. Other than to benefit arms manufacturers, coffin makers and a handful of others who make financial gain from atrocities against humanity. When will we learn.

Alex Ellul

Jan 4th 2009, 16:21

@Brian J Camilleri and A.Muscat: Yes, Hamas are terrorists. They target and kill innocent children, women and men indiscriminately.

A. Muscat

Jan 3rd 2009, 19:30

Peoples will vs. state-of-the-art-Killing machines
Another consecutive failure for Israel?

Israel high leveled inelegancy unit (MOSAD) and the state-of-the-art-WAR MACHINE failed to gather the minimum information about the ‘fire-works’ fired by HAMAS. I will refer to them as terrorist group just to appease some peoples down here.

The new wars order has changed. Wars bankrupted the big and only power!

You can super master the sky and randomly kill civilians and demolish a city in few days, but, you can never destroy peoples will. I bring to my mind another 'terrorists’Hizbuallah of Lebanon
USA soldiers are still getting stewed in Iraq’s oil while NATO are scrambling over the bumpy roads in Afghanistan. What’s amazing is that – both Ms. Tzipi Livni and Mr. Olmart didn’t learn ONE single lesson from Lebanon war?

Although Israel has the fourth nuclear arsenal power coupled with the USA unlimited supports, still they will never win a war over Palestinians. The latter have both RIGHT AND WILL. History proved that people's will never be defeated!

HAMAS rockets remind me of when our men, women and children used to pour boiled oil over the Turks. Were we terrorists?

Tony Mizzi

Jan 3rd 2009, 18:08

Mr.Camilleri, possibly you're right that Isreal doesn't need a reason.

Nonetheless, if need be, Hamas provide them with a justification - - or isn't rocketing your own country not a justified reason to react?

And yes .... I still call Hamas terrorists .... How couldn't I refer to them in another manner???? They don't even recognize and accept the authority of the President of Palestinian, how can they ever accept the right of existence of Israel!!!!

Brian. J. Camilleri - St. Andrews

Jan 3rd 2009, 15:46

Why the siege after all?
This is not a matter of Hamas attacks Israel by rockets. Israel was never in need for a reason to attack anybody or any country. They can always create the condition, and backing by the USA is guaranteed.
Unfortunately, UN, EU, and Security Council together can’t stop or deter Israel.

One of EU top official last week said that, the EU must look at Israel as a country above laws!
This is not an eye to one eye. This is not a tooth for tooth. This is a brutal eye-lash for the whole body.

I sympathy with Palestinians peoples and I condemn barbarism attacks that systemically done by Israel.
Palestinians want tot eat and drink, have electricity and water and live (free and with dignity) like many other peoples. Is this too much?
After what we see on TV’s, still, can we objectively call Hamas terrorists??

Tony Mizzi

Jan 3rd 2009, 10:28

@D.Mangion
Mr.Mangion, today it is Saturday. Basically 4 days after the protest, and no one noted the presence of any party leader, apart from Dr.Cassola in the said demonstration.

It really shows how much outrageous I was.... I hand picked Dr.Cassola, but how could I hand picked anyone of the 3 other party leaders? They were there, Mr. Mangion.

Contrary to Dr.Cassola, they have the interest at heart ... They stand to be counted on issues which effects the life of fellow Maltese citiziens!!!!!

Contrary to Dr.Cassola, their first allience is to Malta. Dr.Cassola has already proven that his allience to to foreigners not Maltese, by being a MP of another nation. As a member of the Italian parliament backing the then prime minister of Italy Mr.Prodi, he was undoubtly working on Malta and the Maltese people behalf.

So, Mr.Mangion it is not a question of hand picking ....

Tony Mizzi

Jan 3rd 2009, 10:15

@ V Zammit

Well said Mr.Zammit, we don't read history selectively. So please, do so.

As fas as I'm concerned, I never said that Isreal are 100% correct in their actions. Still, both they and Palestine have a right to live in their own state. Furthermore, if one wants to look at history objectively not selectively, as you said, the Isreal state had just one geographical region were it was right to REINSTATED!!!

Right, we live in 2009 ....... may be this would help to see the 2 two sides of the coin Mr.Zammit!!!!

V. Zammit

Jan 2nd 2009, 20:08

@ Tony Mizzi

We don’t read history selectively Mr. Mizzi and we fit it as we like. This is wrong.

Occupation is the problem.

Does Syria forms part of Israel? Does Lebanon forms part of Israel? Israel, since 1967 still occupying parts of these two countries. Will we tell peoples of Syria and Lebanon to forget about their lands because we are now in 2009?

@ A . Muscat
I agree with you.

Tony Mizzi

Jan 2nd 2009, 17:31

@V. Zammit

SO, what ????

Excuse me, but I can't understand the point you're trying to make, by asking me whether I remember what happened during the war.

Apart, we live in the 2008, and we can't decide from when to start to look, interpret history. Yes, the Jews were in Europe ..... but what is their land of origin???? Surely, not Europe ....... just look at the history books, and you would learn what is the Jews' country of origin, and how and why they were forced to leave it!!!!

A. Muscat

Jan 2nd 2009, 17:12

Peoples will vs state -of-the-art-are War machines
Another failure?

Israel high leveled inelegancy unit (MOSAD) and the state-of-the-art-WAR MACHINE failed to gather the minimum information about the ‘fire-works’ fired by HAMAS ‘ I will refer to them as terrorist group just to appease some peoples’ down here’.

The new wars order has changed. Wars bankrupted the big and only power!

You can super master the sky and randomly kill civilians and demolish a city in few days, but, you can never destroy peoples will. I bring to my mind another 'terriorists - Lebanon

USA soldiers are still getting stewed in Iraqs’oil and NATO is scrambling over the bump roads in Afghanistan. What’s amazing is that – both Ms. Tzipi Livni
And Mr. Olmart didn’t learn ONE single lesson from Lebanon war?

Although Israel has the fourth nuclear arsenal power coupled with the USA unlimited supports, still they will never win a war over Palestinians. The latter have both RIGHT AND WILL. History proved that when peoples have the determination, they will never be defeated!

HAMAS rocks remind me when Maltese men, women and children used to use boiled oil over the Turkish!

V. Zammit

Jan 2nd 2009, 16:04

Occupation is the problem. FULL STOP
@ Tony Mizz
Weren't the Jews living in Europe? Do you recall what happened to them and by whom? Certainly it was not by the Palestenians or HAMAS

Tony Mizzi

Jan 2nd 2009, 14:23

Ruth. R. Goldirova states: The question is-Why it has the to be the Palestinians’ territory?

SO WHERE ????? Isrealis and Palestinians fought for the same piece of land for ages. That is there land ..... they have to find a solution on how to live peacefullly, side by side.

The Isreali state can't exit anywhere else in the world .....

Ruth. R. Goldirova

Jan 2nd 2009, 13:04

I repeat:
The Jews are like Christians -Muslims -Atheist –Hindu- etc... The Jews peoples have all right to live and feel safe in any corner of the globe. The question is-Why it has the to be the Palestinians’ territory?

For a peaceful Middle East, to discourage nuclear proliferation is a MUST. The international community should head this way whether it’s for Israel or Iran.

Alex Ellul

Jan 2nd 2009, 10:34

@A. Muscat et al: After the creation of the state of Israel by a UN resolution, the Arab countries conducted various useless wars and other actions against Israel, with the only consequence being a high cost of life, mostly from the Arab side. Then the Arabs resorted to terrorism, mainly aimed towards Israeli civilians. Slowly, the Arab countries started recognizing Israel following the Camp David accord. However some Arab groups are still adamant on seeing the annihilation of the state of Israel, groups such as Hizbollah and Hamas, supported by the non-Arab state of Iran.

What Israel is basically doing is neutralizing Hamas and thus giving more power to the Fatah group which has recently been conducive to the peace process, but due to Hamas intransigence, peace is still elusive.

John Cini

Jan 1st 2009, 23:23

Ms.Goldirova clearly has no idea who Mr.Ahmadinejad is if she can honestly say the world would be a safer place if he developed a nuclear bomb.

Thank the Lord that Israel will keep us safe from him, the only way possible.

And thank the Lord that the politicians who attended this farce in Valletta will never be in government!

Shaun Camilleri

Jan 1st 2009, 20:49

Israel has a right to defend itself from terrorists. First they launch rockets at Israel then after months on end of being patient Israel attacks and as usual the Palastiniens go around the word asking for sypathy.

Why don't these people demonstrate against what is happenening in Gongo or Sudan or some other place? Why is Israel always looked at as the vilian?

Oh! and as for Gaddafi and other Arab dictators are they being funny when they talk about human rights? I do not understand the Arab sense of humour.

Jonathan Fenech

Jan 1st 2009, 20:45

Will any of the organizers ever be arraigned in court for incitement of hatred, judging by the slogans chanted? Or is hatred of the west permitted under the same legislation?

A. Muscat

Jan 1st 2009, 17:52

Although Israel has the fourth nuclear arsenal power coupled with the USA unlimited supports, still they will never win a war over Palestinians. The latter have both RIGHT AND WILL. History proved that when peoples have the determination, they will never be defeated!

@ Ruth. R. Goldirova
I fully agree with your suggestion down here of the two states. Its true if Israel would like to live in peace, why should be allowed to have nuclear weapons?
Nuclear weapons for none would provide stability all over the world.

V. Zammit

Jan 1st 2009, 17:09

A. Grech
You wrote
'Has no one noticed that the most outrageous crimes committed in the past thirty-five years were committed by Muslim fundamentalist terrorist organisations? These organisations seek to dominate the entire globe with their brand of Islam. Was it not Gaddafi who in 2006 said that, "one day Europe will be subordinated to the Islam”?'

Shall we talk selectively? Libya too among many other Muslims/Arabs countries were victims of terrorism
What would you say about Bombing planes:
Libyan Arab Airlines 114
Back to the 1970’s
On February 21, 1973, a Libyan Arab Airways Boeing 727 with 104 passengers was shot down by the Israeli Air Force. The aircraft was shot down by a pair of Israeli Air Force F-4E Phantom. Do you remember about this crash? How do you call this?

A. Grech

Jan 1st 2009, 14:21

Anyone who fires rockets exclusively at civilian targets while hiding behind the skirts of women and children can only be considered a coward. Cowardice is the main characteristic of Hamas, Fatah, al Qaeda, Hezbollah - the list is too long – who target civilians in their attacks. These cowards use their own people as human shields to provoke the death of civilians when the cowards are targeted in retaliation. Then the cowards put on a show of grief and appeal to our sympathy for the death of the civilians that they use as human shields.

Has no one noticed that the most outrageous crimes committed in the past thirty-five years were committed by Muslim fundamentalist terrorist organisations? These organisations seek to dominate the entire globe with their brand of Islam. Was it not Gaddafi who in 2006 said that, "one day Europe will be subordinated to the Islam”?

Ruth. R. Goldirova

Jan 1st 2009, 13:30

Certainly, the Jews are like Christian -Muslims -Atheist –Hindu- etc... The Jews peoples have all right to live and feel safe in any corner of the globe. The question is-Why it has the to be the Palestinians’ territory? The UK must answer this question.

From the comments down here I can see many peoples are Confusing Jews with Israel, with Zionists – again, the latter is a movement not associated with the Jews, and is the core of the Middle East conflict. (I suggest people to read about the Zionist movement)

Some powerful media resources portrayed HAMAS (before not long ago it was all the Palestinians) as terrorist – Admitting so means, we Maltese were terrorist when defending our land, so, were the German, French and American…etc. Portraying your enemy as the biggest EVIL on earth is the old fashion psychological technique of wars. Always depend on which side of the fence one stands.

Tony Mizzi

Jan 1st 2009, 13:19

@Ruth. R. Goldirova
I beg to differ.

1.More countries with nuclear bomb a safer world?! To increase the chance of a lunatic leader who decide to use it, and instigates a chain reaction? For me the least, the better !!!! Ideally, if no one possessed such technolgy better .... but no one can turn the clock backwards, unfortunately.

2. Did we live in a safer war during the cold war days???? Rather, at times we were living a knife edge scenario which could have easily lead to war.The world needs more dialogue ... not 2 equally powerful confronting forces.

3.The fact that Palestinians uses stone, and Israel messiles is irrelevant. Everyone use what one possesses, but ultimately, both side are trying to do same thing with the resources they possess. In the real world, this difference do exist and no one can change them!!!

4.What is the biggest mistake in history? Granting back Isreal's right over its own land???

Alex Ellul

Jan 1st 2009, 12:37

@Ruth Guldinova: The fall of the USSR did not ceate a political vaccuum, but a safer world. I think that your comment is a great injustice to that great man, Mr. Gorbachov.

Besides, your comments about the 'poor Palestinian kids and people' is totally one sided. Jews are peolple too for me.

Ruth. R. Goldirova

Jan 1st 2009, 12:31

The Middle East conflict is a western design dilemma, mainly by UK
Some Palestinian factions are regarded by the Western media as rogue groups.
Israel is regarded by same factions as armed ghettos that un-lawfully compensated on a Palestinian territory. We have to be idiots to expect the Palestinians to talk roses about Israel. By the way, Jews and Israelis or and Zionists are not the same! The latter are the core issue.

Why the middle East has turned to a powder keg? To fairly answer this question we must first acknowledge that every single issue has a history- in addition we must not admit that history had began in 1948.

Ruth. R. Goldirova

Jan 1st 2009, 12:30

The no hostile Arabs, Muslim and Jew relation is the longest yet least discussed after 1948. (Why?)
Since we have an international political vacuum (after the collapse of the USSR) my opinion, If Iran posses a nuclear bomb, the whole area would be safer. America and Israel will never attack Iran. Israel and America only attack couturiers that don’t have Mass-destruction weapons. What about Iraq, Afghanistan and North Korea? The latter was never attacked because they could deter USA.
Poor Palestinians kids and peoples, disparately, to defend and get back their STOLEN LAND) attack Israel soldiers with stones. Israel retaliates with missiles. Shame on the so called civilized world. Unless the west mainly (USA and UK) correct the worst ever history mistakes more blood would shred. But who cares?
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G.Mangion

Jan 1st 2009, 11:05

Hamas has turned to Terrorists, they Even fight there supposed Brothers the Fatah,
This Protest was the bigest Farsa of the 2008 !
@ the The march, organised by the non-governmental organisations Graffitti, the Peace Lab and Kopin, also included the participation of political parties, the General Workers’ Union, Zminijietna, the third world group and Koperattiva Kummerc Gust.

Do you see the Local & world new's ? kemm kien hemm Maltin mil -200 ??? Halluna !

M.Bezzina

Jan 1st 2009, 10:33

And who is going to defend Israel??If Hamas was the 1st to fire the rockets I wont blame Israel to retaliate .these 2 lands will never find peace im sorry!!

wally vella-zarb

Jan 1st 2009, 01:50

@ Tony Mizzi

Now that makes more sense and I agree with your last posting almost 100%.

Regarding your remark in the second paragraph, you might wish to look up my comment on another thread regarding the police stopping some anti-US slogans during the same march.

May you have a Happy & Peaceful New Year!

Ian Ellul

Dec 31st 2008, 18:44

@ Andrew Camilleri - V Zammit ;

What I mentioned is documented historic FACT.

The FACT remains that following Israel's disengagement from Gaza, the Arabs have concentrated on killing innocent Jewish civilians rather than building a state! In stead of spending money on infrustructure they spent it on weapons. In the meantime, they expect the people they want dead to supply them with all their needs - depending on the Jews whom they describe as their enemies while at the same time winging and moaning about everything instead of getting off their backsides and do some work!

C.Zarb

Dec 31st 2008, 18:22

Israel never 'win' the battle because they are civilized enough not to start a genocides/jihads/crusades. If you want a true miracle then read about the 6 day war and how a weak Israeli nation was capable not to be thrown in the sea by those who promised it.

Andrew Camilleri

Dec 31st 2008, 17:15

@I Ellul: Using the same reasoning, Italy and Tunis both have the right to take control of Malta due to the fact that it was Roman/Carthaginian land 2000 odd years ago.

Tony Mizzi

Dec 31st 2008, 16:57

@wally vella-zarb
You want an answer ... so here you are .....

For me, both Israel and Palestine are pursing their right to live in a free, safe state. Nonetheless, the road they both are taking in order to reach this final destination instead of getting them closer, is just destancing them more from the final target.

This because I believe, altghough I stand to be contracted, is the effect of having a significant segment in either country who hates, even not even wishes the stermination of the other nation. Obviously, this hatred is the direct result of the violence and killing on either side. Thus, the Palestinians elected Hamas in power whereas the Isreali goverment what to show its strenght, to keep hold on power in the forthcoming election.

Thus, it is pointless trying to find out who is correct or wrong on specific single issues. Apart, on certain isssues they are both wrong and correct at the same time since the good of one side is the destruction of the other.

Just remember that this issue didn't started 50 - 60 years ago, with the reinstament of the State of Isreal, but is ongoing for ages !!

A. Muscat

Dec 31st 2008, 15:28

Although Israel has the fourth nuclear arsenal power coupled with the USA unlimited supports , still they will never win a war over Palestinians. The latter have both RIGHT AND WILL. History proved that when peoples have the determination, they will never be defeated!

wally vella-zarb

Dec 31st 2008, 14:30

@ Tony Mizzi

It appears from your answer that you are incapable of understanding what I write. You had asked me for 1 thing that the Palestinians had done wrong and I gave you some. Now you are attributing a 'black-or-white' scenario and continue to accuse me, almost directly, of not seeing both sides of the coin.

Be that as it may.

But let me ask you a direct question : What is your position viz-a-viz the settlements that have been erected all over the West Bank, the road that has cut this West Bank in two, the occupation of the Golan Heights; are all these justified or are they not aggression by Israel destined, inevitably, to provoke retaliation by Palestinians?

In your answer, I urge you, in your own words, " ... please try to be more balanced and objective ...",

J.Spiteri

Dec 31st 2008, 13:56

The Graffitti spokesman asked the Maltese government to pressure Israel to stop the attacks. Can our government really do better than the UN? After all, isn't Hamas always the one who tries to provoke Israel? If Hamas really wants peace and security for its people, it should follow the road to dialogue with its neighbours. We are all sick of seeing corpses of children, men and women, all victims of this ongoing violence, being carried above the heads of chanting hysterical men. But it seems that Hamas rejoices in watching its fellow - citizens dying as 'martyrs'.

Justin Meli

Dec 31st 2008, 13:32

yeah all of you keep swimming in misinformation western media feeds you , you choose to stay (maybe purpsely? ) blind and see who is the real threat and terrorist here keep enjoying your Fox news.. israel accupied and oppressed and killed innocent people and cut medical and food supplies and water supplies to gaza , palestinians are prisoners in their OWN land.

killing by hamas is not justified , killing is always bad . but its not as bad as a massacre and destruction of a whole population!

and NO israel has NO right to be in Palestine .

Paul Galea

Dec 31st 2008, 12:53

@Ruth. R. Goldirova
Very factual in-dept comment. I learned couple of things from what you said down here.

V. Zammit

Dec 31st 2008, 12:10

Ian Ellul
Are you writing self-made history? What you are saying is misleading. I am afraid!

H Gatt

Dec 31st 2008, 11:52

@ Justin Meli

You see kids rather than men throwing rocks because the men are busy brainwashing youths into exploding themselves on Israeli public buses.

C.Zarb

Dec 31st 2008, 11:45

And tell me Justin why Palestinians attack and kill Christians in Bethlehem. Are they the enemy too? Have they massacred Palestinian people?

Why missles are being thrown from residential areas to Israeli cities? Are the people residing within those houses/hospitals/Schools the enemy too?

The Palestinians will NEVER win an open war against Israel. The only viable route there is, is peace. Yet the terrorist group Hamas doesn't want that. They can't face living amongst Israeli people as much as they cant face living amongst the Christians whom they persecute. That is the biggest problem in this complex situation.

C.Zarb

Dec 31st 2008, 11:40

Mr Seychell if I was an Israeli citizen, I would want my country to protect me. If missles are thrown into my family's direction then yes Id like it to do whatever it takes to stop those attacks and bring the terrorists behind it to rest.

My point is that Hamas is the true enemy in here. Its Hamas who provoke Israel, Its Hamas who discriminate and kill Christians and its Hamas who fire missles from schools roof tops despite knowing that one day or another the Israeli will counter attack. Hamas is in favor of one things ie total annihilation of anything that is not Muslim fundamentalistic and is against anything that can bring peace.

Ian Ellul

Dec 31st 2008, 10:44

The FACT:
1. The Land of Israel belongs to the Jews as it has since God gave it to them - period. There has always been a Jewish presence in the land since Abraham settled there and and history as well as archeology is on their side.
2. The Arabs had a chance to choose peace in 1920, 1929, 1936, 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, 2006... in all these instances they chose war.
3. Why did Arabs massacre Jewish communities in 1920, 1929 and 1930's? Was it because of the "occupation" of 1967?
3. Israel has made peace with those who wanted it, namely Egypt and Jordan and there has since been no confrontation.
4. Israel pulled out of its OWN land of Gaza in 2005. Since then the Arabs chose Hamas and launched over 5000 missiles at innocent Jewish civilians INSTEAD of building a future.
5. In the week prior to the latest Israeli actions of self defense, Hamas launched 200 missiles at Israeli civilians.

WHERE WERE YOU WHEN ISRAEL WAS BEING ATTACKED? TO THOSE WHO JUSTIFY HAMAS, I PRAY YOU'LL BE BLESSED WITH NEIGHBOURS SUCH AS ISRAEL'S.

Justin Meli

Dec 31st 2008, 09:54

israel brutally massacred the people of palestine for all those years , cutting supplies , killing with no mercy and the western media just show us how hamas are a terrorist group..why do you think you always see palestinian children throwing rocks? because there are not many men left to do so.. and its funny how you are the same people that post against illegal imigrants when palestinians feel the same way as you , that their land had been stolen

J Busuttil

Dec 31st 2008, 09:35

These leftists orgonisations are always the same. They protest whenever a western state is involved and they are always against. Example: They didn"t protest the killings of Christians in INDIA,they didn't protest the killings of christians in CONGO and Nigeria. And about AD. Their present leader ARNOLD CASSOLA was a candidate in Italy's general election in a formation called ARCOBALENO which consisted apart from the GREENS, two COMMUNIST PARTIES and left wing socialists.

Louis Fenech

Dec 31st 2008, 09:13

Ms Abdilla

What's fair about taking someone's land and making it yours because you happen to be more powerful and at the same time laying claim to it because it was yours 2000 years ago?. The present occupiers of that land are for the most part European Jewry who are originally converts to Judaism and have as much right to be there as you or I. which is none at all

David Muscat

Dec 31st 2008, 09:02

@ J Aquilina. Saying that the palestinians attacked first is a short sighted comment. The Israeli/Palestinian problem started long ago not this week as you may well know.
May I also add that kiling innocent people is not acceptable neither as a attack nor as a retaliation. We cannot side with the israelis nor the palestinians, we have to side only with the innocent citezens of both nations.

Tony Mizzi

Dec 31st 2008, 08:52

@D Mangion

Thanks says for saying that my comment is outrageous !!!!!

So, please kindly inform me whether Dr.Gonzi, Prime MInister of Malta and PN leader, Mr.J.Muscat, Leader of Opposition and PL leader, and Dr.J.Muscat, AN leader were present to the said protest????

In no site it has been stated that they attend, whereas on another enphasize the presence of Ad's leader !!!!

Thus, have I the right to state that I agree with those who weren't present at the said protest????

AD decide to be present .... fine for me .... they have a right for opinion, but I beg to differ from them.

If this in the end is regarded a political position fine. AD took their political position by attending to the protest. SO expect the Maltese citizien to make their value judgement, and decide accordingly ..... THus, I'm was outrageous such as Dr.Cassola was by attending the demonstration .... we both made a politicain statement. The difference is that I'm a common citizien, while he in 6 monthes time has to come and ask for the votes of follow maltese. For use, my door will be shut for him and his party!!!!!

Muscat.Pat

Dec 31st 2008, 08:46

A victim is a victim. Victims are to be found on both sides of the border. However, comparing the the Hamas rocket ( long range murtal) to the sophisticated israeli aircrafts and rockets is absurd. On the other hand, Hamas means more trouble for the Palestinians. They should have taken the chances offered to start off with a state. Hamas is only interested in Religion and using the Palestinians for their own Islamic agenda. Islam is one thing, secular Palestine is an other. Bringing Islam into the conflict was a strategic mistake. Unfortunately, many Arab countries are using Palestine to prop up their own corrupt and undemocratic regimes. However. one cannot blame the Palestinians for demanding and fighting for their own state. Americans did it by war, so did the Italians and the French. They have been suffering since 1948, surely if we are deaf to their plights they have to make a stand.? The survival of Israel, (they have a right to their state too) depends on peace with the Palestinians. Wars should not be used as election tools; it is cynical to say the least.

Tony Mizzi

Dec 31st 2008, 08:36

@wally vella-zarb

Now we have it from the horses mouth ....

The Palestines are the all suffers, the Isreali are the murderers!!

Perhaps you forget that through Palestinians action Israeli citizien died. Perheps, you forget that also third country citiziens as well, who have nothing to do with the Middle East crisis sufferred and died through the action of Palestinians.

Perhaps you don't realize that there isn't a supreme mandate which dictate that that is Palestine, not Isael!!!!! Perhaps, you are short mindeed as well becuase it seems that history for you started after World War 2 !!!!!

So, please try to be more balanced and objective and condem the acts of violence of either side.

Francis Attard

Dec 31st 2008, 08:34

Another confrontation added to the, already in excess, between us Maltese. What an example to the young generation!!!!!!!

Tony Mizzi

Dec 31st 2008, 08:27

@carmen caruana
Thanks to good, I wasn't there !!!


However, you confirmed the plain truth, the leader of Alternattiva Demokrattika attend the protest..... Fine, everybody can make his judgement !!!

H Gatt

Dec 31st 2008, 08:24

Graffitti are a hypocritical organisation. They claim they want peace and yet they protest only against one side (Israel) when everyone with an open mind knows that in the current conflict neither Israel nor the Palestinians are blameless. Moreover Hamas is a terrorist organisation irrespective of whether they are legitimately in government or not. Where were Graffitti during the massacres in Georgia and Tibet only months ago? Did they organise any peace marches? Of course not! They only protest when it suits them!

J Farrugia

Dec 31st 2008, 08:19

The stat e of Israel has all the right in this world to defend itself and its citizens before any other consideration. To those who took part in the march, I say that you have no right to attack Israel. Those who attack Israel will see their end coming to them. No one will remove the Poeple of God. They are the chosen people and they will remain so. And no terrorist organisation will stop that.

Ron Cassar

Dec 31st 2008, 08:14

The Israeli response was simply disproportionate.
Just like when Hamas provoked Israel from Lebanon a year ago.
Israel retaliated by attacking southern Lebanon inc it's infrastucture such as it's main airport.
Really wonder whether Israel has considered that after a provocation and retaliation by heavy milatry weapons, the Palestinians will gather International support.

Both sides have thier justified reasons for this ongoing conflict.
One question always puzzeled me?
If Nelson Mandela had managed to bring down years of institutionalised hatred within one country, why can't this world have 2 separate countries with Jerusalem as shared sovreigity?

Daniel Micallef

Dec 31st 2008, 08:10

This land belongs to the people who have always lived there,namely the Palestinians. It has nothing at all to do with the mostly European Jews,and by that I mean Zionists, who hijacked it some 60 years ago. I see nothing wrong in the people of Palestine wanting there land back.

Certainly there will not be peace in that part of the World until this question is settled. The consequences reach far and wide and is the main reason why groups such as Al Qaeda came into being.

john micallef

Dec 31st 2008, 07:56

did israelis protest when hamas started firing rockets on innocent israeli civilians? did the international community react when the ceasefire ended and hamas started attacking israel? why are the protestors showing pictures of innocent dead people? why don't they say that the same dead people harboured terrorist hamas cells in their neighbourhood? same old stories. why don't these protestors protest when their 'religious' cousins elsewhere in the world commit bombings on civilian targets?

Pauline Abela

Dec 31st 2008, 07:43

STOP USING KIDS in demonstrations. Some are so little they probably don't even know how to read let alone digest issues that adults over generations have been unable to solve. You want to do demonstrate? - DO IT YOURSELVES.

And if you think Hamas is so right, go help them out - No doubt they'll greet you with open arms.

Moira Attard

Dec 31st 2008, 06:42

I would hope that the opening of the Maltese Embassy in Israel be delayed in protest at the wholesale massacres being perpetrated against the Palestinians.

Joseph Aquilina

Dec 31st 2008, 06:32

The PALESTINIANS attacked first. Why should Israel not defend herself? Why are you blaming the innocent?

Joseph Aquilina, CANADA

Victor Buhagiar

Dec 31st 2008, 05:39

In Congo 189 Catholics were killed, hacked to death by machettes. Will our brave compatriots who protested at the killing of terrorists, now protest at this massacre? I bet they won't. I bet they don't even know about it. I wonder if they don't even care really!!!

Bill Millam

Dec 31st 2008, 01:12

Hamas IS a terrorist organization, period! Since when are civilzed governments suppsoed to deal with such criminal/terrorist organizations such as Hamas. It is a pity that in any war there always is collateral damage (civilian deaths) but Hamas is getting exactly what it deserves: a dose of its own medicine.
I for one have absolutely no sympathy or support for Hamas and their misguided tactics unless they categorily denounce ANY and ALL use of violence against the sovereign state of Israel
Bill Millam
Los Angeles

Ronnie Gauci

Dec 31st 2008, 00:51

Did they protest when Hamas criminals fired missiles on innocent Israeli civilians for no particular reason? Israel has the right to defend itself.

Chris Borg

Dec 30th 2008, 23:56

I don't care if Hamas are terrorists, if Palestinians want to be governed by terrorists, good luck to them. I am also in favour of a fully-independent Gaza + West-Bank. HOWEVER this current war cannot be blamed on Israel as it was Hamas who has for the last 6 months provoked Israel with the firing of rockets + ending of truce (and should we ignore the fact that Hamas are propped-up by a State which is led by a President who has declared that he wants to conduct a holocaust?). Some argue that Hamas never used the kind of weaponry Israel is using, so as to justify Hamas....yes of course they never used that kind of weaponry, for one simple reason: they don't have that kind of weaponry.

@wally vella zarb: Arabs were attacking and killing Jews in British Palestine....and by the way, the State of Israel presently has a MUSLIM minister in its cabinet while the deputy foreign minister is a Druze...how many non-muslims occupy political roles in Hamas-led Gaza?

No peace is possible without compromise. All parties have to give-up something, and here Israel led by example when forcing Israeli settlers out of Gaza.

Charlie ATTARD

Dec 30th 2008, 23:45

How would the We Maltese would have reacted if We were kicked out of Malta to Sicily , and Mlata given to the Jews ..as they did after the war in Palestine!! Shame on you those who are condoning this genocide on defenceless people. Violence breeds Violence. I wAS a great supporter of israel, ONLY FED RUBBISH through English media ..the Papers, and tohought Mintoff was Extreme!! At a mature age and with so much information at hand we CAN see both sides of the coin, and the roots of all this. The Facts are Israel does not honour Resolution 242 and many more after that, The whole Issue revolves around as to how the Arabs .. whom I hated with a passion, been btrayed beyond belief by the English, after having fought two world wars on their side aginst the Ottomans and the Nazis..
They paid the price, being betrayed. Why does Israel, today ram a boat loaded with medication, and Doctors ..Why ..because they simply want a blood bath!!! Shame on you all who are condoning this Massive Scale Murder taking place!!

Christian Abdilla

Dec 30th 2008, 23:36

For fairness sake, I would expect the same people to turn up next week wearing 'yermulke' and waving flags with the Star of David in order to truly protest against ALL violence - or is the violence only one way ?

Granted, the balance of forces always makes Israel seem like the 'bully' but I am more than sure that Hamas militants throw stones and molotov cocktails at Israeli troops not because they are choosing to be less destructive but only because those are the only weapons available. Should more powerful weapons be made available to Hamas, they will definately use them !

Emma Xerri

Dec 30th 2008, 23:30

Of course I feel sorry for innocent civilians killed. But then everyone should know that Hamas place their rocket launchers and other weapons in the midst of residential and civilian neighbourhoods for maximum civilian causualties should Israel attack.

Why do not the protesters also denounce Hamas for being terrorists and having no respect for life or human beings, be they Jewish or Arab. They just want to milk to situation After all, there is no better photo-op like killed or wounded women and children to garner world sympathy to their cause. They never tell you that they have been the ones that have been breaking truces, and launching rocket attacks into Israel cities where innocent civilians have been killed and wounded. When finally Israel decides to defend itself and its citizens, they cry foul and call on the world to defend them. How pathetic.

Andrew Camilleri

Dec 30th 2008, 23:11

What Israel has done to Palestine is utterly abominable...while violence is wrong, Palestinians fighting for their freedom from the yoke of Israeli brutality and oppression. How would you feel, if you were kicked off your land, abused, walled into a prison and starved, treated as worse then animals? The Palestinians kill or injure a single Israeli, and the Israelis pour down fire, death and destruction on an unimaginable scale. America especially, and the rest of the West don't do anything concrete other then talk because the Jewish Lobby is way to powerful, and anyone pouring scorn on what Israel does or comparing it to the treatment of Jews in European ghettos during WW2 is silenced.

All this sympathy for Israel is just proof of how biased western media coverage of the situation is.

Victor Zammit

Dec 30th 2008, 23:10

@Marvin Mizzi

The number of people attending this protest was MUCH BIGGER than the number of people that attended any ANTI-Immigrants protests. This is a good sign anyway

A.Magri

Dec 30th 2008, 23:01

Graffitti, GWU and the remaining left wing ngos should travel immediately to the Gaza border on the Israeli side and feel what it is like to be bombarded by rockets.

Israel responded out of provocation, and the Palestinians got what they wanted and what they seem to live for - trouble.

Sandro Pace

Dec 30th 2008, 22:55

At least one of the groups taking part professes a world without boarders, more or less, or hint to that direction. Will they tell Hamas or the Palestinians to open their hands to Jewish settlements in Palestine?

Or do they have different opinions for different situations?

D.MANGION

Dec 30th 2008, 22:26

It is indeed sad and shameful that most of you writing down here, really find ways and means for justifying the murdering of innocent civilians many of whom are children.
It is even sadder when some of you say that we have our own problems to solve, so worrying about the Palestinian issue is of secondary importance.
It is then outrageous of Mr. Tony Mizzi to hand pick AD and Dr. Arnold Cassola from a crowd of 200 to make some political point against AD.
The article says it loud and clear that the march included the participation of political parties. (Do you see the plural there?)

Let me quote, Italy's Gianfranco Fini, fresh from your own pick of centre-right wing political beliefs, who clearly states that; "There can never be Mediterranean Peace without a longlasting peace in the Palestinian territory." - Now are we going to label Fini as a pseudo terrorist too ?
Let's all pray together for peace. Let's all do our little part for World peace. Let real peace enter our hearts. Then we can start to discuss issues.

I Abela

Dec 30th 2008, 22:20

Unfortunately some civilians had to pay a price but I do support Israel on this one. Hamas is a recognized terrorist group and doesn't deserve to exist, let alone rule a country. Also Hamas have failed to renew a cease fire and have indiscriminately fired rockets into another country. If it was me in charge, I would have issued a 3 day ultimatum so that civilians have time to evacuate, and then level Gaza to sea level. A sovereign nation can never be blamed for protecting its citizens and its interests.

J Fenech

Dec 30th 2008, 22:12

Hamas don't hate just jews, and the west for that matter. They even hate muslim moderates, like Fatah. Just because the latter have been pushing for a peace deal. The Israeli people have every right to defend themselves. They are not targeting the Palestinian people, they are targeting specifically hamas. Tonight's was no pro-peace demonstration, it was more accurately a pro-terrorist manifestation, judging by the rants uttered by the miserable crowd who bothered to turn up!

Michael Pace

Dec 30th 2008, 22:10

Indiscriminate killing of Jews by the Nazis gave many of them the guts needed to create the state of Israel, and to fight to defend it. Indiscriminate killing of Palestinians will only increase Palestinians' will to fight. If Hamas seems to be the only group taking this seriously, its support will only increase further, the more it seems a victim of Israeli violence. U.S. action in Iraq keeps increasing opposition to the U.S. Afghans who were sick of the Taliban are now increasingly supporting it. When will people learn that violence only breeds violence. (This also holds for Hamas violence, and Taliban violence, and whichever violence).

Eric Frendo

Dec 30th 2008, 21:42

What about holding a protest against the palestinians for all the violence, bombings they are commiting against the Jewish people?

Marvin Mizzi

Dec 30th 2008, 21:31

A peace protest what a joke .....shame to all those who where there. Everyone has to right to express oneself in a democratic society ---- but a was it a peace protest or support for Hamas --- Hamas is defenitely not a peace organisation but a group of organised terrorist. If those particiape in this march real wanted a show of peace should have done away with Palestinian flags and kheffias. \It was hamas that wanted the truce to end and Israel would be ready again to go to the discussion table if the President of Palestine is left to work. So those present should have had placards to condemn Hamas for the act of cowardice to remove the truce and and to exhort all parties to go back to the peace talks taking sides is not the solution and both sides did their good and bad things. So please do not act like children any more Carnival is still a few months away and what there was was this evening in Valletta was an anticipation of Carnival The Middle Peace need that the to Nations accept each other as such.

wally vella-zarb

Dec 30th 2008, 21:24

Yes, Mr Mizzi, I can tell you of one thing that the Palestinians did wrong:

They should never have accepted that their land be split and given away. They should have realised that people like Ben Gurion would not stick to their side of the bargain but would want more and more land. They should have realised that the Allies, in their hurry to wrap up the aftermath of WW2, were only looking at their own interests and not the interest of Palestine or the Palestinian people - at that time composed of Christians, Muslims and Jews, all living together under the British Mandate after the overthrow of the Ottoman Empire. They should have realised - or rather the ALLIES should have realised - that the very setting up of a Zionist state, was really the setting up of a state based on one religion (Jewish), with the inevitable result that it would be countered by states with a different religion (Islam). It was the setting up of a time bomb.

THAT is the other side of the coin.

They now know that they have nothing else to lose.

carmen caruana

Dec 30th 2008, 21:20

It was a peace march against the brute force over civilians. I was there and it's was nice to see even Jews. Any killing have to be condemned of every country!!
@tony mizzi
You said that Cassola was in the head of the march, I'm sorry but you are showing that you weren't there. I was few from the last people of the march, and Cassola was right behind me!!

Jo.Galea

Dec 30th 2008, 21:14

What's all this fuss about , why are you so worried?
I suggest you take a look at these pictures from standwithus.org news (an international education organization) showing muslims ( including Palestinians) in other european countries making protest in favour of islam.

http://www.standwithus.com/gallery/cartoonprotest/LondonProtest05.jpg
http://www.standwithus.com/gallery/cartoonprotest/LondonProtest.jpg
http://www.standwithus.com/gallery/cartoonprotest/LondonProtest02.jpg
http://www.standwithus.com/gallery/cartoonprotest/LondonProtest03.jpg
http://www.standwithus.com/gallery/cartoonprotest/LondonProtest04.jpg
http://www.standwithus.com/gallery/cartoonprotest/PalestinianProtest.jpg

J farrugia

Dec 30th 2008, 21:11

min organizza din il-kummiedja ghandhu ghalfejn jisthi juri wiccu. kif ma tisthux meta l-hamas huwa grupp ta' terroristi? meta dawn qatlu hafna palestinjani minn gtal-fatah. meta dawn qed isalbu l-poplu kollu ta' Gaza bhala prigunieri tieghu. U meta dawn it-terroristi imxahhmin mill-iran mis-sirja u mil-libanu, qed jisparaw milli kontra l-israel? u joqtlu n-nies? fejnhom il-mixjiet taghkom favur il-paci? jew favur il-palestinjani biss ? huwa ghajb li dawn qed jithallew jaghmlu pantomina minn tragedja umana tort tal-hamas. dawn huma l-ftit tradituri li ghandna f'malta. mohhom biss kif isawtu lil Israel. Imma s-sahta tibqa fuq il-poplu kollu palestinjan li huwa favur il-hamas u allura kontra l-paci dejjiema.

Ruth. R. Goldirova

Dec 30th 2008, 21:08

This is a state sponsored terrorism.

Americans fought for their freedom, so did the German, French, Maltese and Spanish...etc. All these countries achieved their freedom and defended their lands at a very high price. Palestinians just doing the same.

The Zionist state ‘Israel’ (not the JEWS) was ILLEGALLY established on the Palestinian’s land on 1948. This historical crime was done by the blessing of the UK.
Israel is the only country which has no borders and that was illegally established on other people’s land. Moreover, Israel is the only country that never observed one single of the too many UN resolutions! (Above the law?)

Poor Palestinians kids and peoples, desperately, to defend and get back their STOLEN LAND) attack Israel soldiers with stones, or using home-made with a few km Range Missiles. Israel retaliates by using F16 and cluster bombs.

What established illegally will always remain illegal. Unless the west mainly (USA and UK) correct the worst ever history mistakes, more blood would shred.

Adrian Borg

Dec 30th 2008, 21:01

Sorry V. Zammit, we should all be PROs on behalf of Malta and poke our nose in other countries' business, try to solve their problems.

Maybe we can do this to distract ourselves from solving ours. Maybe we can do this because other countries are doing the same with us ... helping us with our major problem ... anyway who cares?

V. Zammit

Dec 30th 2008, 20:54

Catholic Malta
Isn’t where this massacre is happening is the birth place of our LORD?
Gaza is not only for Muslims, Christians are living there too.
@ Francis Attard
As it shows from the comments, this issue is beyond our thinking. You are right. Most of us living in the moon.

Mark Seychell

Dec 30th 2008, 20:53

@ wally vella-zarb

Do you seriously believe the Palestinians are all innocent? As D Vella said very well, we should look at these situations from both sides of the coin. However there is no excuse to the blatant murder of hundred's of innocent lives in just a couple of days. It's like the reign of terror all over again.

Mark Seychell

Dec 30th 2008, 20:50

@ c.zarb

So in your very enlightened oppinion we condone the killing of so many people as long as the leaders of hamas are killed?

C.Zarb

Dec 30th 2008, 20:40

Hamas has no respect to anyone. They fire missles on Israeli Civilians from (Palestinian) Hospital rooftops and they brainwash children to die for the 'cause' which will be never achieved unless through peace. If you think that Hamas hates Israeli people just because of the Middle East Conflict think again. Just check in which conditions the Palestinian Christians are living in Betlehem. Hamas hates anything that is not fundamentalistic.

Tony Mizzi

Dec 30th 2008, 20:38

@wally vella-zarb
It seems that no one taught you to look at the 2 sides of the coin !!!!!!

Kindly illuminate us with at least just 1 thing which Hamas/Palestine did which is wrong ....

Tony Mizzi

Dec 30th 2008, 20:36

Is the keffiyeh a symbol of peace or a symbol of war????

Funny the usual congratation was once again present ...... AD leading the march .... but playing the usual innocent part. If Dr.Cassola goes hand in hand with someone backing terrorists, irrespective what he say with his mouth, he would still backing terrorism !!!!

c.zarb

Dec 30th 2008, 20:34

Hamas are a terrorist group. What's next? Should we start support Al Qaeda?

Francis Attard

Dec 30th 2008, 20:29

There are 400,000 people in this country and according to the article more than 200 people took part in the protest. Let's assume that there were 300 people more than 200. That will amount to 500. Therefore, 399,500 people chose not take part and I suppose that they didn't because they are not aware of what are the real differences between these two races and they choose to distance themselves from siding with anyone of them. This story has been going on for ages now, and if they are not capable to resolve their problems by themselves, how can we ever solve them for them by simply going to march through the streets of Valletta.
We have many problems ourselves, so let's try to solve ours first.

D Vella

Dec 30th 2008, 20:14

@wally vella zarb

WHERE WERE YOU when a crazed muslim homicidal maniac blew himself to pieces together with a busload of people . . . one of whom happened to be a cousin of mine? Where were YOU when a terrorist rocket launched by Hamas and its adherents landed in a residential neighbourhood and took off the leg of a twelve year old together with most of her home? It's not about land it's about the obsession of some arabs with revenge and their pathological fixation on the destruction of Israel!!
Well, your arab friends would do well to heed the words of Confucius, even if he is an 'infidel dog' to them . . . .

when you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves . . .

The more these people fight and resist and try to destroy Israel, the more they are destroying themselves!

Ruth. R. Goldirova

Dec 30th 2008, 20:14

Solution, but:!

Two disarmed (nuclear-free) states living peacefully next to each other. This idea has been promoted for long time by many, if not all Arab countries. However, the continuous refusal by Israel for signing (both nuclear and mass destruction weapons - free Middle East) would leave the Middle East warped in flammable powder keg. Furthermore, talks about peace or any project like (EU-Med Union) will remain just an illusion!

c.camilleri

Dec 30th 2008, 20:13

@ a muscat. Can you pls explain what winning or losing a war means? The number of casualties, territorial gains or what? in all these Israel has always been the winner.

A. Muscat

Dec 30th 2008, 19:50

Although Israel has the fourth nuclear arsenal power coupled with the USA unlimited supports , still they will never win a war over Palestinians. The latter have both RIGHT AND WILL. History proved that when peoples have the determination, they will never be defeated!

wally vella-zarb

Dec 30th 2008, 19:47

Where are all of YOU when Israel continues to steal land from the Palestinians? Where were YOU when Israel blockaded Gaza, cutting off supplies, food, medicine? Where were YOU when Israel set up settlements on Palestinian land? Where were YOU when Israel cut that infamous road through the West Bank? Where were YOU when ... ?

ALBERT FENECH

Dec 30th 2008, 19:47

Why didn't the "over 200" people march on the Palestinian and other Arab embassies to exhort them to pressurise Hamas into immediately stopping their terroristic acts of firing missiles into Israel and of putting the women and children in Gaza at enormous risk by using them as human shields? Some people do indeed have a distorted concept of "democracy". By the way what was Alex Sciberras Trigona doing there? Was he attending in a personal capacity or was he representing the Partit Laburista? If the latter, are we to understand that the PL is in favour of Hamas continuing to fire rockets and sacrifice women and children? I thought that these days of kow-towing to Arab countries were behind the PL. Apparently not.

V Mercieca

Dec 30th 2008, 19:45

Loss of life is always a sad state be it Palestinian, Israeli or other.

I do not recall any demonstrations against attacks by various Palestine groups against Israeli and other life. Should not these groups also hold protests against Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah etc. for their suicidal attacks on innocent people? Should not these groups also urge our government to protest against Hamas - the present Palestine government?

If I am not mistaken, Israel has been sending messages to Hamas to stop firing rockets against Israeli territory and stop provoking retaliation. Now we have the retaliation. Now people are waking up to protest!

c.camilleri

Dec 30th 2008, 19:45

The people of Georgia has been crushed by the Russian military power and you did not hold any protest march. The same happened in Tibet and you remained silent. Why? The poor response to your protest clearly shows that you are not genuine and your agenda is just leftist propaganda as use to happen in other countries. The leaders of Hamas have invited all this suffering on the people of Gaza because they did not take the advice of the Palestinian President to renew the peace agreement. Israel often said that it is ready for peace and it is also ready for war. Regretfully Hamas has chosen the latter unlike the Fatah organisation which has made much progress towards a peace agreement with Israel.

D Vella

Dec 30th 2008, 19:40

I find these protests against violence extremely distasteful, especially when they attempt to sell us one side of the story only. All the more so when some of the protesters are audibly heard chanting anti-semitic racist slogans, interspersed with the usual 'death to zionists' and 'death to israel' rubbish!! That is exactly what happened the last time a similar protest 'for peace' was held in our country.
Intelligent people of goodwill will only accept these protests when the same protestors will hold a similar march sometime against the Hamas terrorists, their deliberate spreading of hatred, their practical dismantling of all the efforts that had gone into the peace process and their daily recurrent firing of rockets into Jewish residential areas. Violence will only beget more violence and that counts for both sides. The inevitable result of this latest spate of homocidal action by the Jewish state will be more suicide bomber murders and even more rockets . . . sad but true.

Francis Attard

Dec 30th 2008, 19:38

"All acts of violence were to be condemned"
Punto e Basta.
No Buts.

Vincent Zerafa

Dec 30th 2008, 19:29

Where were all these when Hamas fired rockets into Israel these past months? Why didn't they go to Valletta to protest against Hamas? Are they really for peace? Just how one-sided are these protestors?

I don't believe that they are peace lovers at all!!

Joseph Sciberras

Dec 30th 2008, 19:28

I do not recall Graffiti protesting when Hamas were firing rockets at Israeli towns and villages during the six month "truce" that ended a few days ago. Nor do I recall them protesting at the supply of weaponry being provided by Iran to Hamas, which they also used to effectuvely massacre Fatah supporters in Gaza. Is it a case of two weights and two measures?

I.Scicluna

Dec 30th 2008, 19:16

Where were all these people/organizations when Hamas-fired rockets landed in Israeli towns?

Quote:
The actions being taken by the Hamas were not on the same level with those by Israel.
Unquote:

Correct...Hamas targets Israeli CIVILIANS.

Adrian Borg

Dec 30th 2008, 19:16

Wouldn't it be better if we solve our LOCAL problems?

Sorry ... forgot that a problem can be a relative issue, regarded as a "blessing" by others ...