German Green MEP in Malta next week to discuss proposed Ghadira road

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Dec 11th 2008, 11:18

Mr. RCZ, I insist that I know your age perfectly well. Anyway, this was not what we were debating.
This argument has turned into a personal attack from your side. My only intention is for truth to prevail. Therefore, your insistance that the Ghalqa/Ghadira Tat-Tajjar was used as a car park is FALSE. I can vouch for this as I enjoyed this area during my early childhood, my childhood, my teens and, up to the time allowed, during my older age.

Richard Cachia Zammit

Dec 10th 2008, 20:42

@Sylvana Zarb Darmanin
LOL you slipped again.

Yes I know that you are about my age but quoting you AGAIN....."Sir, when I was playing in the Ghalqa/Ghadira tat-Tajjar, you were still attached to your mother's apron. ", AGAIN shows that you didn't know that at that time.

And hey be fair for once. You did not say "birdwatching in your childhood" but "birdwatching in your EARLY childhood" and that doesn't mean when you're in your teens. Well I leave it to the readers to decide (even though no one will be reading this LOL)


Anyway and a Happy New Year to you too.

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Dec 10th 2008, 13:11

You never give up, do you?!

What you quote does in no way show that I did not know your age. Where you birdwatching in your childhood? In fact you have admitted that you did this in your teens. Well, you should know that I am your age BUT I did not start visiting Mellieha Bay in my teens. I spent my childhood and teens at Mellieha Bay during summer. I still do, with the only difference that I can visit CERTAIN areas on Sundays ONLY!!!

If you still insist that I did not know your age, it is only thanks to the Editor who did not allow me to disclose the exact information about your previous employment and the age you joined the Bank!

Finally, I reciprocate your wishes for a Happy Christmas and the New Year!

Richard Cachia Zammit

Dec 10th 2008, 10:54

Ms S Zarb Darmanin, when you were right I admitted. However YOU always insist on anything even when proven wrong.

As for my age, yeah sure, the below 3 quotes from your posting shows cleary that you had a good idea of my age :-

(1) “In fact, the area we are disputing about was in the past used as a hunting area by a noble person, and I clearly remember this. I believe you weren't around at the time."
(2) "How can you arrive at a correct judgement when you DO NOT "remember that very well"!! "
(3)"Instead of quoting me, you should have tried to reason out whether you were birdwatching in your early childhood!! "

Just the same....Happy Christmas to you and yours.

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Dec 10th 2008, 08:53

Mr. RCZ, admit you are wrong in this one. When I write to insist on something it is only because I am 100% sure about it. "Breaths of fresh air" come in very small quantity.

And BTW, I did substantiate my claim that I am perfectly aware of your age and your employment, however the editor chose not to print it!

Richard Cachia Zamit

Dec 9th 2008, 16:48

@Sylvana Zarb Darmanin
Factual arguments...yeah sure. At least, in my case there was once when I realised that you were right and I admitted. You said that that was a breath of fresh air. I suppose neither I nor any other reader who disagrees with you will ever have a breath of fresh air as far as you are concerned….and that is not because you are always right.

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Dec 9th 2008, 13:37

Mr RCZ STOP ASSUMING! Unlike you, I write FACTUAL ARGUMENTS!

As for your FKNK argument, I feel it is about time that you accept that I am NOT a hunter, NOT attached to any organisation, do NOT have to please anyone, and as such can be objective in my writings. I know you do not like the situation and find it hard to accept it, but in life there are things which we do not like and yet have to accept. PACENZJA, Mr. RCZ!

Richard Cachia Zammit

Dec 9th 2008, 10:59

@Sylvana Zarb Darmanin
LOL that is exactly why you messed this all up when jumping blindly into conclusion about my age and saying that I can’t possibly remember etc etc….because you remember when I joined the bank but you didn’t know the fact that that wasn’t my first job and I had been employed elsewhere for many years.

As for the FKNK, I am sure that it’s not a case because you are not a puppet etc etc, it is just because they took some time to issue their press release and you had already blurted out what you had to say just to despise Birdlife and totally ignoring the natural environment, otherwise your “song” would have been different. Don’t forget that normally you always refer to things the FKNK says as FACTS even when they are scientifically incorrect. Remember the Turtle Dove in China????

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Dec 8th 2008, 18:49

I am going against my word and am replying to Mr RCZ's childish contribution as I cannot ignore the opportunity presented to me by him.

"What I know is that you started this whole thing by posting comments in favour of the new road and now the FKNK itself is against this project and has proved YOU wrong" Your statement confirms that I am indeed independent and not a puppet on a string for any organisation. Remember you used to doubt this?! Well you have now provided evidence to prove yourself wrong once again. Furthermore, this is childish behaviour on your part - I quoted BirdLife for you and as a child does you wanted to do the same. Grow up Sir.

I confirm once again what I have been stating: THE GHALQA/GHADIRA TAT-TAJJAR WAS NEVER USED AS A CAR PARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And BTW I never doubted your age as I remember you joining the Bank! And as I said, you look your age!!!

Richard Cachia Zamit

Dec 7th 2008, 15:44

@Sylvana Zarb Darmanin (continued)

You keep saying that you used to “enjoyed playing in this area”, and I’m sure that in the 70’s you were already too old to play, so probably during those years you didn’t frequent that area “every single summer day”. Probably your memories go back to the 60’s whilst I am refering to later years. Whatever…as I said all this is documented and can easily be checked.

I have read everything that Birdlife has published re this issue and nowhere did I read anything that proves me wrong. What I know is that you started this whole thing by posting comments in favour of the new road and now the FKNK itself is against this project and has proved YOU wrong.

Oh and BTW, the challenge is still on. You still have to substantiate your accusation that I approve of others who trespass on private property.

Richard Cachia Zammit

Dec 7th 2008, 15:38

@Sylvana Zarb Darmanin
LOL I expected this from you. So my “You are really not worth arguing with" is my "irtirata” according to you. So what about your “And please Sir I will not be replying to any further baseless arguments” and again “Sir, this is my final contribution to this senseless argument!” (see below). I should have made the same remark but I’m not that childish…even though you insist that I am younger than I am.

Again when you said that “you should have tried to reason out whether you were birdwatching in your early childhood!!” shows clearly that even though I told you exactly my age, you are still confused about it. I started birdwatching in my teens in the early 70’s. The work on the Ghadira Nature Reserve started in 1980 and by that time I was already 23 years old so unlike you, I’m not relying on childhood memories. As I have already mentioned, but you seem to be missing, is that what I’ve been saying can be checked on reports and documents about the area published throughout the years.

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Dec 7th 2008, 11:19

Mr. RCZ, stop going round in circles and insisting that the area under dispute was used as a Car Park!!

Instead of quoting me, you should have tried to reason out whether you were birdwatching in your early childhood!! It was at that time, that I enjoyed playing in this area not just on Sundays as I am restricted now (due to the Nature Reserve) but every single summer day.

I reiterate that I never made an assumption about your age - I assure you, you look it!

Even your colleagues at BirdLife have proved you wrong. The parking area was nearer to the beach than the Ghalqa/Ghadira tat-Tajjar. You are wrong and consequently all your senseless arguments are baseless. So please stop wasting my time!

Your "You are really not worth arguing with" is your "irtirata' and your scapegoat. Readers would have expected your admission that you were wrong. But that is proving to be too difficult for you.

I rest my case here. You might find gullible readers to believe whatever you say BUT trying to convince me about something which I have experienced in my childhood is a non-starter!!!

Richard Cachia Zammit

Dec 5th 2008, 19:42

On 02/06/2008 Ms S Zarb Darmanin wrote on this same web site and referring to me:-

“In fact, the area we are disputing about was in the past used as a hunting area by a noble person, and I clearly remember this. I believe you weren't around at the time."

What did you mean by that....that I was abroad or something. Also further down you wrote:-

"How can you arrive at a correct judgement when you DO NOT "remember that very well"!! "

Are you suggesting that I have dementia????

No the fact is that you made a wrong assumption about my age to try and win the argument and now you are too proud to admit it.

As for the area being used as salt pans….big deal, what does it prove???? Does it prove that cars didn’t park in the area during the summer months???? Are you going to start another argument just for the sake of arguing as usual.

You are really not worth arguing with and I will join the others who ignore you.

Oh and BTW, even I know you.

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Dec 5th 2008, 17:46

Mr. RCZ you are again in the wrong. I never assumed your age, on the contrary, I remember you starting in your employment and I know you quite well!!! As already remarked you are confirming the Maltese saying of "L-ispizjar milli jkollu jaghtik".
Sir, when I was playing in the Ghalqa/Ghadira tat-Tajjar, you were still attached to your mother's apron. Stop saying untruths, this area WAS NEVER USED FOR PARKING! If you think you are the only one who has photos, you are mistaken. Stop your obsession in baseless accusations and take some time to read what BirdLife had to say about this area. I quote from The Malta Independent: "Before the road had been built, the area today comprising the nature reserve had consisted of salt pans". These 'salt pans' were actually referred to as the Ghalqa/Ghadira tat-tajjar. Now, if you want to say that your colleagues at BirdLife are likewise being arrogant, it is up to you to decide. However, readers will judge for themselves.

SO MUCH FOR BEING ACCURATE AND FACTUAL, SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Richard Cachia Zammit

Dec 5th 2008, 14:23

@Sylvana Zarb Darmanin
First you said that I couldn’t possibly remember because you just assumed WRONGLY that I was younger and now you’re telling me that it couldn’t be that I used to go birdwatching there. Who are you to tell me ABOUT MY LIFE?????

Yes the area was leased to a person who used to go hunting there for ducks but by summer, that same area dried up and people used to park cars in that same area. Stop insisting about this matter because as I already said this fact is documented in reports about the area compiled at that time. And it is a fact that I used to frequent that area for birdwatching. Birdlife (MOS at that time) even used to have outings there. Even this fact is documented. I have photos of the area as it was before the Nature Reserve was created so don’t come and tell me that I don’t know the area.

Unfortunately your arrogance has no limit, so much so that you first accused me of approving of others who trespass on private property and instead of substantiating your claim as I insisted, you blame ME of accusations. Hallina trid.

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Dec 5th 2008, 09:05

Mr. RCZ and Ms. C. Vella, the Ghalqa/Ghadira tat-Tajjar WAS NEVER USED AS A CAR PARK. I spent my childhood at Mellieha Bay during the summer. There was the beach itself, the road, another area used as a Bus Terminus and a parking area, a small camping area and then the Ghalqa/Ghadira tat-Tajjar. During that time, Mr. RCZ, you could not have gone birdwatching. The area was actually used by a certain noble person who used to use it as hunting grounds! I remember perfectly well the dummy birds placed in the Ghadira to attract birds.

So please, stop your usual tactics of accusing others without backing your arguments with facts!!!

Carmen Vella

Dec 4th 2008, 17:17

If Ms Zarb Darmanin when mentioning the "Ghadira tat-Tajjar" is refering to the area where now there is the nature reserve, I myself remember it in summer, dry as a bone and used as a parking area. So if that is the area she is refering to, I'm afraid SHE is wrong.

Richard Cachia Zammit

Dec 4th 2008, 14:14

You made this argument senseless because you think that just by firing statements and accusations you can win your argument. The fact that the The Ghalqa/Ghadira Tat-Tajjar was used as a car park is even documented so it is not something that I’m inventing and can be easily checked. As for “How can you arrive at a correct judgement when you DO NOT "remember that very well"!!”, shows clearly that you don’t rely only on false accusations in your posting to win an argument but also wrong assumptions. I am 51 years old and I remember very well the area as together with friends I used to go there birdwatching. I even have photos of the area.

So Ms. ZD, again I challenge you to show me where and when I ever said that I approve of others who trespass on private property. You have made an accusation and you have to substantiate it.

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Dec 4th 2008, 10:56

Mr. RCZ, you are absolutely wrong! The Ghalqa/Ghadira Tat-Tajjar was NEVER used as a car park. How can you arrive at a correct judgement when you DO NOT "remember that very well"!!

Sir, this is my final contribution to this senseless argument!

Richard Cachia Zammit

Dec 4th 2008, 10:37

@Sylvana Zarb Darmanin
So I am the one who is throwing accusations. Again I challenge you to show me where and when I ever said that I approve of others who trespass on private property. If you are not replying it is because YOU CANNOT.

As for the Ghalqa/Ghadira Tat-Tajjar...yes I remember that very well and I also remember very well that the area was used as a car park in summer and yet, according to you, it is NOW that the natural environment of the area has been ruined. You are so blinded by your obsession against Birdlife that you don’t even realise that it is the road that is being blamed for causing the degradation of the beach and not the Nature Reserve. Nobody said that the Nature Reserve has ruined the area or is damaging the beach. Only an extremist who hasn’t the slightest idea of what nature conservation is, would say such a thing.

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Dec 4th 2008, 08:56

Mr. RCZ, throwing accusations and going round in circles gets one nowhere. Being interested in what interests you and ignoring other things also gets one nowhere.

In my childhood I remember Ghadira Bay together with the "Ghalqa/Ghadira Tat-Tajjar" and I assure you that that natural heritage has been ruined. If we can do anything to stop further destruction I will surely be one to encourage it!

And please Sir I will not be replying to any further baseless arguments.

Richard Cachia Zammit

Dec 3rd 2008, 13:37

@Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

I challenge you to show me where and when I ever said that I approve of others to trespass on private property.

Nobody mentioned hunting and hunting has got nothing to do with this issue and yet it is clear that that is the only subject that concerns you and not what is the best for our natural heritage.

As for the flamingo, is it possible that you missed the picture on this newspaper with blood all over its neck and belly??? And are YOU against the Nature Reserve??? If that is not being biased I don’t know what is.

Please, please, Ms ZD, stop inventing things and stick to the subject.

Carmen Vella

Dec 3rd 2008, 13:07

Ms Zarb Darmanin, unfortunately you are not considering the fact that both the sandy beach at Ghadira as well as the garigue area through which the new road is planned to pass, are part of our natural heritage. Just because aesthetically a sandy beach looks nicer than a rocky garigue, it doesn’t mean that it is more important. What we have at the moment is an already developed sandy beach and an almost untouched garigue area. The best solution is to save both habitats but if one had to be chosen, it should be done only after a serious study of both areas and their bio diversity. However it seems that you are knowledgeable enough to have already concluded which to protect and what to do.

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Dec 3rd 2008, 11:12

"Because as you well know, access to everyone without control results only in damage." EXACTLY, MR. RCZ!!!! Yet you expect that others trespass onto private property owned by hunters, trappers and other individuals!!

You see, Sir, how unbiased you are!! Readers can judge for themselves!!!!!!!

And BTW, is that Flamingo the same one which, not so long ago, was said to have been badly injured by hunters?! Well, at that point it was used to serve your purpose (against hunters), this time it is being used to sustain your argument in favour of the Nature Reserve!

Please, please, Mr. RCZ, stop attributing things which pertain to you, in my regard!

Richard Cachia Zammit

Dec 3rd 2008, 10:12

@Sylvana Zarb Darmanin
As always what you write shows clearly not only who you really are but also your lack of knowledge about the subject. You said that I care only about birds. So Ms Zarb Darmanin, did it ever pass your mind that to care about wild birds you have also to care about the environment. Without protecting the environment you cannot protect birds...GET IT.

And the birds you mentioned are they mine???? NO. They belong to everyone including future generations. That shows cleary my respect towards others.

One other thing Ms Zarb Darmanin....take the example of the Hypogeum. That is part of OUR national heritage and belongs to everyone, and yet you and I don't just go in there whenever we feel like it. Why? Because as you well know, access to everyone without control results only in damage. The same thing can be said about the Ghadira Nature Reserve. Do you really believe that if everyone could go there whenever they please, that Flamingo would still be there??? Ms Zarb Darmanin…Just like myself, you can visit the reserve on weekends and it is FREE. Hundreds of people do that each year.

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Dec 1st 2008, 18:52

Mr. RCZ you confirm what the Maltese saying says: "L-ispizjar millu jkollu jaghtik!" First of all, I cannot see how the nature reserve belongs to me as well when I cannot enjoy it whenever I want! I enjoy my belongings anytime and whenever I want. Secondly, all you care about is birds and the nature reserve. You hold no concern whatsoever towards the nicest beach we have in Malta. You are so obsessed with birds and nothing else. Remember your concern regarding scaring tourists away from our island? Are you no longer concerned to protect this nice beach for all Maltese, future generations and tourists to enjoy?

Can you please enlighten me as to the respect YOU have towards others?! And please, Sir, stop using yor usual tactic of trying to imply that I do not understand your comments -this is your scapegoat. You are fully aware that I understand your comments pretty well.

Richard Cachia Zammit

Nov 29th 2008, 21:35

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin
Maybe if I repeat what I said this time you might understand. The natural environment, including the Ghadira nature reserve, belongs to everyone, including yourself and it is our duty to pass it on to future generations. But alas you can only think about one issue whatever the subject and you seem to derive joy even though you know that more of our garigue might be lost due to development. Well if you do know how to respect others you don't seem to share that same respect to our natural environment.

lgalea

Nov 29th 2008, 20:54

Good to comment and debate about the project, but don't be alienated from the budget effects on the cost of living including the proposed increases in the water and electricity tariffs, the trebling of the price of gas and the sewage tax which we will be getting.

Just DON'T BE ALIENATED.

A.Farrugia

Nov 29th 2008, 19:46

I am neither against nor for this proposed project. You see Ms. Zarb Darmanin, I do not act like a jumping jack on things I do not have information on. You seem to have a lot of technical studies about this proposal from the way you wrote your last note. Good for you, but I do not. so I cannot declare myself in favour or against.
I repeat that having any one's opinion, be it of a Maltese expert, a German transport specialist or a biological expert from the Bangkok does not irk me at all (Unlike it did a short while ago to other people). You see, since I want what is best for my country, I let anyone who can contribute put his / her knowledge in the caludron. The we decide having all the studies in hand and the opinions of experts.
I hope this clarifies what I feel about (1) This project (2) having foreign intervention

MARK MIFSUD BONNICI

Nov 29th 2008, 18:55

What has Green MEP Cramer got to contribute to Malta's largest beach being returned to its natural state? He might be a specialist on transport issues but what does relocating a road passing through our loveliest beach have to do with transport specialists??

Alternattiva are involved in this issue since they purport to be the defenders of our environment. If this were really the case then they should find no objection to this project. On the contrary they should be giving it their full backing.

The interests of the Danish Village are no concern of theirs. It has thrived because of its location and transferring the road to its proposed location would only better its beach facilities making it more sought after as a destination.

The nature reserve has had a road running along its side long before it ever became a reserve. Relocating a road to the opposite side would make no difference. Birds are not disturbed whether the road is to their north or south!!

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Nov 29th 2008, 18:51

HA! HA! Mr/Ms A Farrugia and Mr. RCZ, you are getting a taste of your own medicine and it seems it is proving to be too sour for you!!!!!!!

All you are concerned about is your hobby, immaterial to the damage being done to Ghadira Bay! Of course I care about the environment and absolutely do not wish any harm to it. But then, I also know how to respect others, something quite lacking from your side!

Richard Cachia Zammit

Nov 29th 2008, 18:42

@Sylvana Zarb Darmanin
Yes this is the second time you commented on this issue and yet again there was no indication of concern for the environment from your end. The natural environment belongs to everyone and we have an obligation to safeguard the little that is left for future generations. But alas, it seems as if for some people, the word "Konservazjonisti" (conservationist) is only used to impress.

A.Farrugia

Nov 29th 2008, 18:41

I declare myself in favour of having this German Green here. Germany is part of the EU and so is Malta. Qis mitt darba jghid il-Malti. The more thinking heads we get in this project the better.
Ms. Zarb...do not mix hunting with this issue. For once stop thinking about hunting as you tried to imply in your write up

Sylvana Zarb Darmanin

Nov 29th 2008, 18:09

Well said Mr. Andrew Gatt and Mr. MMB!! As I have had occassion to comment in an earlier issue, "Min jixtieq id-deni lil garu jigu f ' daru! OR What goes round comes round!

Maybe now, certain individuals, will understand what lack of tolerance and respect from others feels like!!!!!!!!!!!

Victor Galea

Nov 29th 2008, 17:51

MEP Cramer will be the key speaker during a public debate Friday 5th December at Juliani Hotel at 6.30.

@ George Cremona
Not only the people from Mellieha are invited but from all over Gozo and Malta. Transport is an issue that cropped up 20 years ago (for the Greens) while for others its an issue who started yesterday.

George Cremona

Nov 29th 2008, 17:20

It seems that AD has no faith in the Maltese people as if in our country we have no one who is capable of advising our government what is best to be done or not. In my opinion the discussion on such a project should be done with the Maltese people, with the ones from Mellieha first and foremost and not with foreigners.

Richard Cachia Zammit

Nov 29th 2008, 16:12

@Andrew Gatt
You said you care about the environment so what is threatened should also be close to YOUR heart.

MARK MIFSUD BONNICI

Nov 29th 2008, 14:33

@Carmel Cacopardo

"The road as proposed by government will have a negative effect on the nature reserve through bringing both traffic noise and light pollution much closer to the said reserve"

The present road passes on the opposite side of the reserve to the one proposed, so noise and light pollution will remain as is. As for the Danish Village suffering damage to its "tourist investment" the present road is just as close to The Danish Village as the one being proposed and this investment has thrived for years.

Are you not aware that the present road is hindering the passage of silt that actually forms the beach.

Government's suggestion, apart from increasing the size of the present beach for the enjoyment of all, is also ensuring the continuance of the natural process of how the beach was formed.

Hopefully Government will carry on with it's plans.

mike pace

Nov 29th 2008, 12:58

Are we keep the same method and employing foreign brained mastermind mangers to solved our internal problems were our national citizen are to find their fortunes aboard .
Its shame and mickey mouse situation were we got the best people in any trade and profession and lost the confidence in this government and left our shores.- SHAME -SHAME - SHAME !!!

M.Spiteri

Nov 29th 2008, 12:48

If you cannot go around it or above it then just go underneath it. A tunnel underneath the existing road, i think, is something worth looking at.

S.Camilleri

Nov 29th 2008, 11:44

I would like to ask the said minister, why should we accepte these funds. No funds, no road and no problem. It sounds as if the EU offers us funds to build a modern tower in valletta for example, we take these funds and build this tower, cause if we don,t take the funds ,they are lost. Get my point.

John A. Azzopardi

Nov 29th 2008, 11:36

May I declare that I am not Blue or Red and neither a hot-headed Green.
How can I convince the powers that be, that sometimes, they have their priorities UPSIDE DOWN.
Most of the roads in Malta/Gozo are in desperate need of resurfacing, even a low cost layer,
NOT road patching please - that is a sheer waste of time, material, manpower and most of all a complete waste of money.
THEN they would be able to afford the luxury of thinking about new roads where they are not required and which spur on nation controversy.
As for the "expert" being brought over from Germany - just try the early morning and evening rush hour routes Naxxar/Sliema, the Qormi road to/from the airport , roads leading to/from Valletta and many many others.
This "expert's" predecessor, also German, was "astonished" about how "wide" our roads were, so he ensured that we swear our heads of (in Maltese) whenever we go through one of the "modern concept" roads. And the Maltese taxpayers, through their STUPID politicians/officials, paid through the nose for something they certainly did not need: STRESS !

Andrew Gatt

Nov 29th 2008, 11:26

@ C Mallia.....you use the word "hunter" like it's an obscenity! Yes, I care about both the environment AND the way public money is spent. And as much as anyone else, I want good value for it.

By the way, hope you're enjoying all the uncertainty, doublespeak and steamrollering. Might give you a small taste of what it's like when something close to your heart is threatened.

Manuel Mifsud

Nov 29th 2008, 11:12

According to Hon. Min. Gatt, the funds have already been allocated to this project. I think the "Green" MEP should have come over to discuss the project earlier on. I hope that if he advises against it, he would be a gentleman and help Malta redirect the funds to some other project. This would set Dr. Gatt's and our mind at rest that the funds will not be lost.

C Mallia

Nov 29th 2008, 11:10

At least the government is open to discussions and yes all studies should be published for the sake of transparency.

@Andrew Gatt

Coming from you, a confirmed hunter and as you like to say "conservationalist", it is strange that you are worried about funds when the environment is concerned, especially on an island as small as ours.

david farrugia

Nov 29th 2008, 11:03

Is it possible to extend the reserve towards the beach if the project goes ahead? As regards to the affected hotels, a bay view and an considerably extended shore without cars is probably more desirable than arid land at the back.

A.Dalli

Nov 29th 2008, 10:49

AD is being double faced here. One the one hand it says that the proposed new road will destruct the environment on the other hand it says it will hamper tourism, specifically mentioning Danish Village. Danish Village in itself had destructed the environment there. How could AD come forward for Danish Village when there are other hotels around the area. Does anyone within AD have any business interests in Danish Village ? I would have thought AD should campaign against the destruction of a huge area Danish Village brought. Some thing is not clear here.
Bring the beach back to its former glory, remove the old road from the beach.

Andrew Gatt

Nov 29th 2008, 10:31

The last German consultant turned most of our roads into congested, single-lane, badly-drained crawlways. Wonder how much we'll be paying for the privilege this time around!