Labour publishes analysis of government's water and electricity rates proposal

Karl Abela

Nov 12th 2008, 16:41

@ All

Ok, here is my much anticipated reply back to all.

In the published document there is nothing except for a summary of the budget presented by the government.

Sure, its the government job to take care of the country but how can anyone judge the governments actions without concretely comparing them with someone else?

Do you now realise that Muscat is trying to heat everyone up and then simply ride on the wave of everyones artificial anger to get their vote? Thats what I call a cheap campaign to get votes. And when you buy cheap you all know what happens....its like spitting in the sky!!!

G. Curmi

Nov 12th 2008, 16:00

@ Carmel Azzopardi

First off, you are wrong about me being a "PN guy". Unlike your obvious political allegiance, I have no affiliation with and owe no allegiance to any political party; I simply comment impartially about the situation.

You are also wrong in assuming that I did not follow the link provided above by the Times to the MLP's "critical analysis". What does this "critical analysis" provide? Little more than a series of statistical tables provided by KPMG and MITC and other tables derived from them that merely state the obvious. It is often said that "Figures lie and liars figure", meaning that anyone can use/abuse statistics for his/her own purposes, as appears to be the case in this “analysis”.

People might take Dr. Muscat and the MLP more seriously if he were to present his long-promised proposals to remedy the situation that are so conspicuously missing from his "critical analysis". If Dr. Muscat has any concrete viable proposals, as Leader of the Opposition, he is duty-bound to present them to the nation. If he does not, no amount of whinging and manipulation of statistics will remedy the situation.

Carmel Azzopardi

Nov 12th 2008, 14:40

Are you PN guys, are you serious?

There is a whole technical report full of calculations on the Labour website. Don’t tell me you started Joseph-bashing without even looking out for it?

Don’t tell me, G.Curmi, that you were so pleased with yourself, you did not do the research.

Here is the link:

http://www.mlp.org.mt/rizorsi/dokumenti/downloads/AnaliziKritikataProposta6tal-GverndwarTariffitad-DawluIlmaPDF.pdf

G. Curmi

Nov 12th 2008, 13:41

Wow! What an analysis! At best, one can only describe it as underwhelming and simplistic. Is this what you call a credible analysis Dr. Muscat? It took you and your advisers this long to come up with such lucid, detailed, and far-reaching conclusion? A Form 2 student would have done much better in far less time.

Where are your long-promised and much ballyhooed alternative proposals to remedy the situation Dr. Muscat? Is this the best that you can do? What a terremot! A seismometer sensitive enough to detect your terremot has yet to be invented.

If this is the best that you can offer, Malta simply cannot afford to have you as Prime Minister. Heaven help Malta if the electorate is ever naïve enough to allow you to form a government. Talk is cheap Dr. Muscat. Get serious will you please?

A Mangion

Nov 12th 2008, 08:37

Where's the calculation of how Muscat came up with the 194% surcharge?

He cannot publish it cause its incorrect and will highlight the faults in its assumptions. This is the same story of when saying that the PN employed 600 new workers with the public sector, and when they state that the government spend Eur 70 million before election. The same when stating the project overruns. Just figures and no analysis to backup their calculations. Is-soltu bla bla bla... and no beef!!

Joseph Mangion

Nov 12th 2008, 07:58

Did Abela/Magro who wrote below see J Muscat's budget speech on Monday, I suggest they do before asking where are the suggestions. I can imagine you two stretching every penny to pay the new utility bills but having to smile so as to show that all is ok.

R. Camilleri

Nov 12th 2008, 07:41

hello!!??? em...still waiting for some proposals, do I have to wait long ???

Charlo Camilleri

Nov 12th 2008, 07:31

Mela fl-ahbarijiet tal-gazzetti jgibu l-analizi shiha! Mhux ahbar igibu!

R. Caruana

Nov 12th 2008, 07:12

Am I blind or what? Where are the MLP workings? Is that all 'Joseph' can come up with!

Robert Cassar

Nov 12th 2008, 02:50

emm.. Can we have an alternative please? JM talking comes cheap please give us directions and solutions like a leader should do.

P.Schembri

Nov 12th 2008, 00:09

@ Abela and Magro. We'll see who'll have the last laugh!!!!

D. Micallef

Nov 11th 2008, 23:43

it's an analysis of the GOVERNMENT's proposal.

David Zarb

Nov 11th 2008, 23:03

@ Karl & Vincent

1. The complete analysis can be found on the mlp website.
2. If you really wanted to listen to the MLP's proposals, you could have easily followed Dr. Muscat's parliament speech. May I remind you that for once, none of the PN or Goverment complained that no propososals were being made.

Amanda Mallia

Nov 11th 2008, 22:29

And what is YOUR proposal, Muscat?

lgalea

Nov 11th 2008, 22:22

Karl Abela
Finanzi fis-sod. Hahaha what a laugh. I pity those who fell for it. I didn't.

Mario Mercieca

Nov 11th 2008, 22:17

So our labour compatriots cannot afford 3.3 euros a week. So thats what all this fuss is all about? When the goverment tries to increase its income it is slaughtered, if the budget deficit is not reached it is slaughtered just the same.If funds are cut for this and for that just the same so the government cannot get it right. DO you remember the stop moaning of 1st May some five years ago? I think its time to stop moaning again.

Noel Barry

Nov 11th 2008, 22:12

Everything he suggested is already there. Typical of the MLP. They just do not know what is going on.

I Abela

Nov 11th 2008, 21:47

@ Karl Abela - Are you being serious? Where are the proposals? Have you heard the budget reply by Joseph Muscat?

fredmallia

Nov 11th 2008, 21:42

Well done Joseph! the gonzipn/gatt are increasing the tariffs when the price of oil is less than 60 us dollars per barrel. However gonzipn/gatt are with their pants down because their hedging agreement price is more or less 110 us dollars per barrel!

they must follow the MLP advise and purchase oil at the current price so they will relief enemalta and balance some their mistakes and inefficiencies.

andre camilleri

Nov 11th 2008, 21:36

taqax ghac-cajt sur-Muscat. Mela qatt xi darba l_-Labour ghamlu analizi ta xi haga u gabuha tajba!!!! History will reapeat itself. Sant's shadow is still roaming in the "greenhouse".

Joseph Agius

Nov 11th 2008, 21:32

my twelve year old nephew could have done this!!......why does he always have to remind me of kidstuff!!

A. Attard

Nov 11th 2008, 20:56

@ karl abela

have fun paying the bills!!! you seem happy doing so

anthony a. mifsud

Nov 11th 2008, 20:54

@ Mr. Abela & Mr. Magro.

You must be very rich, in your pocket to let an incompetent Dept like Enemalta to drain your pockets.

I for one, believe to pay for what I consume, but I will defend this day light robbery .

I am just running broke.

Toni

Muscat. Pat

Nov 11th 2008, 20:52

What did you expect the tariffs to be lower or higher ? For you these hikes might not be a "gran che" but for many pensioners, who are not rich, it might mean whether to light the heater or not! This, is no laughing matter,

J scerri

Nov 11th 2008, 20:24

@ k abela

Muscat have nothing to propose. That is the work of your government. He just explained what you cannot see

If you think its a joke, I will bring you my bill and pay it for me!

Yesterday in Parliament He said what could be done by the government that a while ago said it would put his ears to the ground.

All I have is minimium wage with a family of 3!

Maria Falzon

Nov 11th 2008, 20:21

Dear gentlemen, there is a whole document which was actually presented!

George Cremona

Nov 11th 2008, 20:14

Is this all JM had been working on for two long months? Is this poor analysis, if one can call it as such, he is able to come up with? Poor fellow and poorer are all those who follow him. No wonder that the MLP is still unelectable.

Karl Abela

Nov 11th 2008, 19:40

hahahah what a laugh....is this all that MuscatMLP can propose?????

Where are his suggestions? Where is all the bluff that Muscat showed last Sunday?

vincent magro

Nov 11th 2008, 19:19

jien hsibt li se nara l-analizi!