Video: MCESD disagreement on utility tariffs persists - another meeting tomorrow

Luke Gatt

Oct 23rd 2008, 05:35

I fully agree with the rise in prices because we Maltese have a mentality to waste things a few years of "faqar" would do as good or else we will never improve.

So go on make the electricity tariffs sky high prices so that we realize how much we waste!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And by the way the lidl supermarkets are making its customers spend more as we maltese like buy 1 get 1 free offers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

l Galea

Oct 22nd 2008, 19:43

Gas is to increase to €14, nearly 200% increase.

How's that for a social conscience?

Beppe Rizzo

Oct 22nd 2008, 18:33

Hello!!! Are we aware that the price of oil has gone down substantially? Shall we continue to pay for the errors of Enemalta's wrong purchasing decision? This is one clear case, if ever there was one, in which the authorities should assist the mojority to ease the burden of additional and inflationary costs.

M. Grech

Oct 22nd 2008, 17:37

@A Camilleri
Kieki il malti jghid cikku waqa u kiser siequ!. Lets face facts now!

@Joseph Cassar
Qatt ma smajna xi businessman igerger. Forsi ma tkellmix man-nies ta' malta jew tkellem ma xi folla partikolari ta' businessman. Ara in-negozju kif sejjer. Jibku biex tixtri xi haga.
btw supermarket kullhadd irrid immur!

Looking at other countries i have never heard of such a high surcharge or high electricity /water tarrifs. (Always comparing proportionately to average salaries).

The rate of inflation is killing the country. This measure will cause dramatic harm!. Don't consider only the extra *bucks* you will pay when you receive the electricity bill, but also the extra you need to pay to cover the additonal 'business costs' jigifieri tal-hwienet, fabriki etc etc.

To consume less what has to be done...lets all switch off electricity/water main?..
Zimbabwe!!!

vincent magro

Oct 22nd 2008, 17:33

nixtieq li min jikteb f'dan is-sit jghati l-ahjar li jista.
kullhadd jista jikkontribwixxi ghall diskussjoni serja.

deb bugeja

Oct 22nd 2008, 17:26

The PN is very much aware of the national crisis we have and yet he wants to increase the electricity tariffs and the price of gas. This will put a heavy burden on maltese families and risk the failure of many maltese jobs. We are going to endure another time when we have to put the kettle on to take a shower or leave the car in the garage and go to work by foot or by bus.

What really amazes is that before March everything was pictured to us as plain sailing and now everything seems to turned upside down. those who are self employed already feel their sales decreasing and with the coming economy everything will slow down.

No matter what they say, we are to pass through dark ages again and it frightens me.

joyce aquilina

Oct 22nd 2008, 16:59

@ a camilleri , iva ilna ma nohorgu nieklu barra ghax il ftit paga li ghandna irridu nieklu u nixtru il medicina li jien u ir ragel ghandna bzonn u irridu inhalsu il kontijiet li jigu kuljum u iva is supermarkets li qedin jifthu huma tac caqnu u min hawn nirringrazjah talli qijed igibilna affarijiet orhos imma supermarkets ohrajn naqsulhom in nies habba fih u fuq kollox int mhux taqbel maghna qeda miskinaaaaa

Marco De Carlo

Oct 22nd 2008, 16:53

Veru li qed jifthu sur A Camilleri Pero huma hafna iktar li qed jghalqu.

u jimporta insaqsik ? dan li qed tiftahar li hawn il gid kollu, Jien ma niflahx inhallas izjed nista jekk ikolli xi kont ma niflahx ghalih nitfaw fuqek la tant tiflah int ? jghidu li il poplu malti generuz bhall dan il gvern hux veru ?

Marco De carlo

Oct 22nd 2008, 16:40

@A Camilleri

Sur Camilleri ghax in tom in nazzjonalisti ta swar u prini triduwa.

Min semma l EU ? Dan huwa fatt li il hela u tberbiq zejed tal pee N tefana f xiffer irddum.

Issa sta ghalina li nohorgu ingergru ahna li xbajna inhallsu ghall festini zejda forsi int mhux qed tgorr u da joseph cassar, jiftahar kemm hawn nies li johorgu jieklu ,issa ma nafx forsi intom ma thossux dan il piz ghax forsi tghamlu parti min cirku tal qalba.

Tiftakar kemm kontu tohorgu itektku b borom ? meta kin jghamel xi haga il labour ? Anzi ahna prudenti u nistennew il gvern jagixxi bi prudenza lejna li sa issa anqas din il kelma ma jaf xi tfisser nahseb.

a camilleri

Oct 22nd 2008, 16:30

@ Joyce....

Bil-qalb kollha! ;)

rigward ir-restaurants - mela nahseb issa ilek zmien twil twil twil ma tohrog is-sibt, ghax skont is-Super 1 ilna fi krizi u ilna mmutu bil-guh ghal dawn l-ahhar 20 sena, apparti xi ftit xhur li konna tlajna l-genna bejn l-1996 u 1998!

Taf x'ma nistax nifehm?? kif qed jibqghu jifthu iktar restaurants u iktar supermarkets meta hawn dal guh kollu! ... imma .. difficli tifhem hux??

:)

joyce aquilina

Oct 22nd 2008, 16:10

@ a camilleri, igbidli l-ohra please.
@joseph cassar ahna ilna li qtajnih il hrug nhar ta sibt ghax ma naffordjawhx u ir resturants li jkunu mimlijin huma dawk li jkollhom il pizza u il burgers u supermakets bilfors mimlijin ghax jieklu iridu hux imma jmorru fejn isibu l-rhas

a camilleri

Oct 22nd 2008, 15:28

Gheziez Joyce u Busuttil,

Jahasra jiena naqbel maghkom qeghda! Kieku tela' l-Lejber kieku ma kinex ikun hawn problemi fid-dinja! Kieku bqajna Svizzera fil-Mediterran kieku ma konniex inkun parti mill-Unjoni Ewopeja u ma kienux jaffetwawna l-problemi li hawn fid-dinja!

Ara l-Izlanda, ghax semghu minn Joseph Muscat u ma dahlux ma affetwahom xejn!

Veru jew le li l-Izlandizi sejrin tajjeb ghax semghu minn Joseph Muscat?? Xi hadd iwegibni please.... Napprezza hafna.

rapheal cauchi

Oct 22nd 2008, 14:58

it looks that this government is getting worse and worse

all the groups in the MCESD are saying no to the government proposed measures but the government is still insisting on implementing them.

i think the problem is because the deficit is now out of the government's hand

joseph cassar

Oct 22nd 2008, 14:47

Kulhadd igerger imbaghad kul fejn tmur mimli bin-nies, ipprova mur xi restaurant is-sibt fil-ghaxija minajr ma tibbukkja. Jew mur ixtri mis-supermarkets, ha tara kif taqqbizlek tistenna.
L-Ewropa kollha tgerger ghax il-konsum naqas, hawn Malta ghall-grazzja t-Alla s'issa ma smajtx businessman wiehed igerger. Ahna jaqaw specjali, jew ghandna xi mohba xi mkien.

M Busuttil

Oct 22nd 2008, 14:28

Sur Camilleri, insejt li kull xaghar il-Gverni kien jogholi l-petrol u d-diesil, ghax kien joghola z-zejt minn barra. Issa z-zejt rahas bin nofs u qed ikompli niezel izda il-PETROL u d-DIEZIL ma RAHAS ghaliex sur Camilleri?

La z-zejt nizel bin-nofs ghalura ghaliex id-dawl u l-ilma se jogholew flok li jorhsu Sur Camilleri?

Meta oghola z-zejt minn barra l-Gass qatt ma oghola issa li z-zejt rahas il-GASS se joghola minn €5 ghal xi €12, hekk sewwa Sur Camilleri.

Charmaine Chetcuti

Oct 22nd 2008, 14:27

the government must also take into consideration one other thing: consumers will be paying more than what is written on their electricity and water bill so the actual burden will be larger. This is due to the fact that an increase in electricity and water expenses for business will result in hidher prices.

Thus the miserable consumer will be paying a very expensive electricity and water bill plus purchasing daily products for a higher price!!!!

Sometimes I think that the government believes that our wallets are like an endless pit...you'll never reach the bottom. But believe me a lot of families have reached the bottom of their pit ages ago!

joyce aquilina

Oct 22nd 2008, 14:03

@ a camilleri, allura int kuntentt li d- dawl ha joghla daqsekk? U issa smajna li il gas ukoll ha joghla sew. mela kemm ghandek paga int? u bill haqq ghax forsi insejt issa joseph muscat hemm u mhux alfred sant.

vincent magro

Oct 22nd 2008, 13:52

hi x-xewqa ta kullhadd li tinstab soluzzjoni accettabli ghas-setturi kollha. jidher li fl-MCESD hemm din ir-rieda. aktar ma jkun hemm konsensus bejn il-partijiet socjali,aktar hemm cans li neghlbu l-isfidi li ghandna quddiemna.l-izbalji li hadna fil-passat la huma skuza biex inzommuhom u l-anqas raguni biex nitrasferuhom f'oqsma ohra. chesterthon fl'orthodoxy jghid li jekk issib li ghall zmien twil kont qed taghti halib hazin lit-tarbija,int tibdel il-halib u mhux lit-tarbija(u l-halib hazin tarmih u mhux taghtieh lil trabi ohra) mela l-isfidi nafuhom,is-soluzzjonijiet madwar il-mejda ghad-diskussjoni,u filwaqt li l-partijiet socjali jridu jifmhu li kull spiza trid tintrefa minn xi hadd,il-gvern irid jifhem ukoll li l-governabbilita mhix biss it-tmexxija gurnata b'gurnata,izda timplika ukoll tibdil ghall ahjar ghall dawk kollha li jiddependu minnha.

a camilleri

Oct 22nd 2008, 13:32

@ Manuel Micallef

Veru ta! Jahasra kieku tela' l-Lejber fil-gvern kieku m'ghandniex problemi ta xejn! Kieku lanqas fid-dinja ma kien ikun hawn krizi!

Qed tara ja Maltin x'ghamiltu tellajtu l-PN fil-gvern? Gibtu krizi dinjija!!! Kollu tort taghkom.

Jahasra kieku tela' Elfred Sant, kollox harir kien ikun miexi, u anke jekk forsi kien ikun hawn ftit problemi fid-dinja, kieku xorta konna nkun mexjin tajjeb ghax ahna konna nkunu l-Izvizzera fil-Meditteran!. Ara kemm sejrin tajjeb l-Izlandizi ghax semghu minn Joseph Muscat u ma dahlux. Mexjin fuq ir-rubini.

Hux hekk Sur Micallef! Jekk hawn problemi fid-dinja, KOLLU TORT tal-PN!

;)

P.Schembri

Oct 22nd 2008, 13:21

@Rita Spiteri. The PN doesn't make u-turns. The PN makes somersaults. Only MLP does the u-turn!!! Oh what a circus!

Manuel Micallef

Oct 22nd 2008, 12:51

This government is going again to bring us to our knees like we were in the 60s. Industry is already in deep trouble and PN is giving it another shock with the proposed new tariffs;

Tallaba fit-toroq ergghna gejjin, u bix-xemgha fil-ghaxija;

A Ciangura

Oct 22nd 2008, 12:32

No doubt the effect of the tariffs on domestic use is v important. But nonetheless is that on businesses in general. The livelihood of business owners and their employees is at risk. Counter measures are required, reduction of : VAT, indirect taxes, or introduction of tax incentivisation measures are a few examples. Eg. restaurants pay 18% on sales but since they do not pay VAT on food purchases, they cannot claim back anything; end result is a straight payment of 18% VAT to Govt, so this taxes total turnover NOT profit margin. PLUS income tax, plus employment contributions,

Rita Spiteri

Oct 22nd 2008, 11:57

The government has insisted it is not bound by the proposals, and it indicated that the new tariffs, which were originally to have come into force on October 1, could instead be introduced gradually over a two or three-year period especially for large enterprises which used to benefit from the capping on the surcharge.

Is this a u turn?