
Saturday, 20th September 2008 - 13:59CET
CABS seeks hunting ban as 'hundreds' of protected birds are shot
A captured Marsh Harrier.
Hundreds of protected bird of prey were shot by Maltese hunters in the course of only a few hours, the Committee Against Bird Slaughter (CABS), said in a statement. It said it will be asking the government to immediately ban hunting until raptor migration is over.
CABS is currently conducting bird migration monitoring operations on Malta with a team of 24 mostly German activists. It said that with a strong oncoming wind over the Mediterranean, more than 1,000 harriers, honey buzzards and falcons reached the Maltese islands yesterday afternoon to rest before continuing their journey to Africa.
Near Rabat a CABS team observed hunters opening fire at a group of marsh harriers yesterday evening, at least two of which were hit and fell to the ground. Subsequently the team filmed the hunter picking up the birds and taking to his heels. Previously hunters near the Blue Grotto had literally torn a Kestrel to pieces with six shots before the eyes of the CABS observers. Later at 11 p.m., at a harrier roost south of Xemxija, team members witnessed a group of hunters firing a number of shots and subsequently searching the area with the use of headlamps and torches. At Buskett, an important roost area, observers recorded the arrival of at least 500 Honey Buzzards, 200 Marsh Harriers, some 90 Hobbys as well as dozens of other birds including Osprey, Kestrel and Lesser Kestrel.
Thanks to the presence of numerous police officers and ornithologists the situation remained relatively quiet.
"Sadly this proved to be the calm before the storm" said CABS general secretary Alexander Heyd.
"his morning, on the edge of the FKNK game reserve near Mizieb, where some 120 Marsh Harriers had gone to roost the previous evening there was a real shooting match, involving some 40 hunters," CABS said.
"This began shortly after 5:30 a.m. As soon as a raptor took to the air it was shot at."
"We counted at least 150 shots and saw at least six birds fall to the ground. A further 15 birds were hit but continued their flight," Mr Heyd said.
Another team were deployed to the south of the Fiddien Reservoir where 20-30 Marsh Harriers landed at dusk. Despite the presence of CABS birds leaving the roost came under fire from all sides.
"I was amazed at the audacity and brutality with which the flock was almost completely wiped out," bird guard Shai Agmon said.
CABS also reported that two shot and injured Honey Buzzards were delivered to the International Animal Rescue rehabilitation centre, with whom the German conservationists work hand in hand, during the past 18 hours. Their chances of recovery were slight.
"These observations are only the tip of the iceberg. We estimate that more than a hundred protected birds, some of them extremely rare species, have been killed yesterday and today," David Conlin, a CABS member from Wales said.
Mr Heyd said that the continuing assertions by the hunting federation FKNK that the poachers are a handful of black sheep has been empty words all along.
"Our data lead us to a completely different conclusion, namely that the majority of hunters participate in illegal hunting."
CABS said that it would be asking the government to put an immediate ban on hunting this season until raptor migration was over. The government should also consider declaring the FKNK wooded game reserve at Mizieb, and other important roost places, as restricted areas for hunters and subsequently designated bird protection areas.
A submission to the Environment Ministry, as well as a report on illegal hunting for the Environment Directorate of the European Commission, was being prepared, CABS said.




Comments
I would like to clarify that I am NOT British but Maltese (of Irish descent) , born and raised here and speak Maltese.
I think the hunters told us to 'Go back to England' because they think that it is foreigners who are against illegal hunting and since I don't look 'typically Maltese' (does anyone here) they assumed we were English.
I disagree with your comment about retiring here and contributing to Malta's economy being a 'big mistake'. - Malta is one of the best places to live for a million reasons, and you are right in saying that the Maltese and Gozitans are nice people.
These 'hunters' are a VERY small minority who think that they can impose their will on the majority of us nature-loving Maltese.
The people of Malta (by their very nature non-confrontational) have been very patient with these people who have denied us and our families the right to enjoy our countryside for decades.
The people are finally saying ENOUGH ! - And I firmly believe that the authorities are waking up and that within a very short time illegal hunting will be a thing of the past.
Fingers crossed!!
I have a right to doubt. When the evidence is provided I accept it. Now I know that Jeremy J Camilleri made a mistake. Big deal.
However I will not apologise for something someone else said.
I witnessed HUNDREDS of birds killed in the valley between Zebbug / Ghasri in Gozo 3 years ago!
I was in a farmhouse on the cliff edge in Zebbug with friends celebrating a birthday when a large flock of very large black birds (DEFINITELY NOT turtle doves!) descended into the valley.
All hell broke loose ! - shots were fired from every corner of the valley and Gozitan neighbours, were actually running out half dressed with their shotguns to get a piece of the action.
These birds were systematically blown out of the sky ! A few managed to land in trees below us but a truck and three men descended with guns and they shot them right off the branches not more than 50 Meters away !
We could not contain our emotions the more boisterous of us shouted abuse at these ' POT BELLIED RAMBOS'
They told us to "F** Off and Go back to ENGLAND??!!!"
Not being a hunter myself, I know quite some of them throughout Europe and I have to say that they are abiding to the Law. They even are helping the environment authorities by suppressing pests or overcrowding population of some animals when necessary.
There should be a place for real, serious, law abiding hunters here in Malta.
Regarding the others, they should be banned and not being allowed to slaughter what is flying anymore as they tarnish the reputation of the whole corporation.
'DOesn't a high ranking official within the Hunter's federation fined for illegalities say it all?'
YOU are WRONG!!!!!! Mr. Jeremy J. Camilleri did write what I said. Maybe, you were having a nap and conveniently did not see his comment. His comment has since been censored. You can always check it out with the Editor. A TRUE GENTLEMAN WOULD INDEED APOLOGISE FOR SUCH AN FOUNDLESS ACCUSATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank you for those sites
i saved them all
however as a citenzen of malta have rights and hobbies and my main hobby is watching birds of prey fly as god created them to do
so any hunter that kills birds of prey and other protected birds is taking away my rights
what happens in other countries is also wrong but as always maltese hunters proved to be the worst of the worst
Jeremy J. Camilleri did not say that Mr. Lino Farrugia was convicted of illegal trapping.
Lino Farrugia "was found guilty of having encouraged or assisted another person to violate a police order to stop the trapping of birds" - a criminal offense.
If the law-abiding hunter is to stand a chance, and assuming that the FKNK is on the side of the bona-fide kaccatur, then it must become proactive.
It must condemn these killings, pronounce itself in favour of stiffer penalties to weed out the law-breakers and it must join forces with BL and deploy its people on the field, armed with cameras to dispel any untruths and to show that it is really has sustainable hunting at heart.
Failing that & better still, ban the entire hunting season for good & send all offenders on a reality check to some remote war-stricken land. Let them shoot to their hearts content in order to defend themselves from the real enemy out there, not a tired thirsty migrating bird. Sorry folks, but I'm up to my nose with gunshots and birds falling out of the sky. I have a right to practice my traditional hobby too - LIVE bird watching.
Dear Prime Minister, Minister of the Environment, who promised so much about making more progress in the environment that you chose it to be under your direct supervision, please act now. Show all law-abiding citizens that you mean business.
It is not fair on the law abiding hunters (who are in the majority, unlike most of the readers think), and all the people CABS/Birdlife are fooling by preparing these reports, making it look like that all hunters are breaking the law.
see, as their law breaking brethren are threatening their hobby at this point ..
This still does not cancel the validity of reports by other bodies of course.
It's high time the hunters suggested forms of autoregulation, seeing that they continually
deny illegal hunting takes place. New laws - like a permanent hunting band and a hefty fine
on being observed shooting at a protected bird - would protect the law abiding hunters
from the gung-ho rest.
You wrote: "No I don't know if the people writing here are the ones responsible, but I'm sure some of these people who are against hunters are the ones who leave a mess in the countryside behind them. Why? Because we hunters never leave a mess if we want to catch a dove".
I guess that you don't see spent cartridges as litter then. My point is that usually you don't know who leaves a mess in the countryside, so in this case, it's silly to point fingers.
Thanks for your comments, i would love to know where you are from before calling our country disgusting. Have you ever been here? Have you ever read anything about the country other than this article? How do you pass a judgement about a country based on an internal debate such as this. I am not racist and do not tolerate it, however neither do i accept anyone calling my country disgusting without justification, so please enlighten us on your comment.
Finally, may i remind you that MALTA (a little dot on the map) most probably has much more history than any country you are from, so please refrain from using stupid comments. If you want to call a nation disgusting, do NOT base your facts on the actions of a few idiots, as i am sure you have many more of these in your own country.
To E.Camilleri
Since you are so vociferous about this hunting issue and not everybody (including every E.Camilleri on the island) shares your demand for blanket collective punishment, then at least sign in your full name. I Eric Camilleri for one do not agree with you !
Really, I am requesting all disc jockeys to please play this song frequently during the whole period of the hunting season!!!! Let us start as from tomorrow. Who knows??!!
he took his family for a walk in our countryside(What is left of it!) like maltese love to do! And he was able to show them some birds, hehe.....and trees. Natural stuff which is good for the soul after a week of work in concrete and dust.
Migrating birds belong to everyone.Not just for hunters.Do hunters imagine the pain? Where they brought up to believe that birds don't feel pain when shot? Our island is crucial for birds. It's like a haven on their way to Africa.Its a stop between Europe and Africa.(Like it was for humans during wars) The birds are mine too.I have my right to see them alive...and wish them well on their onward journey. Hoping to see them again in spring.
But....our Gov. budget...euro...wall street......u kullhadd jafeg!!!!!! And still, everyone is broke. :)
Well done for reminding us about this article. It further convinces us (at least those who do not ignore facts) how widespread illegalities are by FKNK members. To have a senior official of FKNK hindering police duty is the last straw. Like trapping, hunting should be abolished forever!!
If anyone is still skeptic about the rampant abuse by hunters, then one only needs to see FKNK’s attitude towards CABS. If hunters have nothing to fear, then they should not have reacted so negatively every time they learned that CABS was going to visit Malta!
And I hope the Gov. wakes up. It has been sleeping for tooooo long on many problems. We voted for a Gov. incapable of taking decisions.Hunters..bus drivers...illegal boathouses...savages who litter wherever they are...fumes from cars...but quick to increase surcharge/tax etc
Don't shout too loud,you might wake them up.Shh!
Read it again will you...
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080825/local/fknk-secretary-fined-over-kercem-incident/
Now if they want to sue me, well, they can go ahead...
As such the government should (1) Ban any further importation of such guns (2) make hunting illegal in any way and form (3) collect and publicly destroy the guns currently held by hunters or else do something to the guns to ensure they can never be fired again (4) start rehabilitating the countryside for other uses such as trekking, camping, climbing, archaeology appreciation, flora and fauna studies, agro tourism etc. We can open up new niches in toursim if hunting is stopped altogether.
The public should also be educated to take care of the environment. Stiffer penalties are needed for those who spoil the environment with their littering.
With goodwill, education and discipline we can achieve a beautiful and unspoilt countryside for everyone's benefit.
The political parties should show their unity about this issue!!!
Please tell the rest of people like you to steer their boats to another destination and you will do us a very big favour.
Thirdly --- there are a lot of comments about the Maltese hunters ,I`m not going to say that they are good or bad, just have a look at other countries especially Germany and judge for yourselves. Here are some web-sites,www.komitee.de/en/index.php?raptors
www.komitee.de/en/index.php?henharriers
www.komitee.de/en/index.php?falconry
www.komitee.de/en/index.php?cormorants
www.komitee.de/en/index.php?deroghe2008
Thank You
Mr.M. Vella, please enlighten me as to when I ever defended law-breakers, or quoted any statistics. Sorry, the 80% was quoted by an anti-hunting individual!! The documentation I hold assures hunters and trappers of the continuance of Spring Hunting and the enjoyment of their traditional pastime.
To all those that doubt that the countryside is littered, I confirm that this is indeed the truth. One has to clean up the garbage left behind by those who want to enjoy the countryside - even the private property!
Mr. G. Cassar, one can clearly see that you "never handled a shot or any other gun" because you wrote laughing stock!
Now before Miss Sylvana Zarb regales us with another of her diatribes and lectures on Maltese Idioms.
Miss Zarb if you are one of the rare breed of hunters who observes the law and does not shoot at protected species, I can think of a Maltese idiom that is rather apt "mal hazin jehel it tajjeb" or "tghid giet hekk".
I suggest that if you are so worried about regulating your past time maybe you should take up another hobby for example knitting. You will not be harming the environment and there are few regulations to knitting in the countryside.
Besides it is not very ladylike for a woman to be roaming the countryside terrorising little birds!!! LOL
SHall we observe illegal hunting...well...lets say I'm confident that we will...
DOesn't a high ranking official within the Hunter's federation fined for illegalities say it all?
Bordering on the outrageous and sometimes insane comments, I was waiting for this public outburst.
Are the majority of LEGAL hunters abiding by the controversial Maltese law?.....YES
Is poaching still an issue?........YES
Do these CABS exxagerate and sensationalise?.......YES
Is FKNK doing its utmost, given its limited Government backing?......YES
Even if only ONE illegal shot was fired and only ONE protected bird was unfortunately downed
the same exxgerated 'baying' for bans and rude remarks towards the majority of law-abiding enthusiasts would have prevailed!
Why exxagerated, you say?
The hunting season has been officially opened since the 1st of September, 6 to 10 protected birds have been reported illegally shot down, maybe 10 to 20, so as to summarize proportionally the actual numbers, 40 to 60 'hunters' were witnessed illegally shooting, or 'groups' (as stated by CABS & Co), the word groups will in itself give a sensational meaning in this context!
Now the title of this report carries the word 'hundreds' (one must note)
Shall we say as well that one hundred hunters were observed poaching (to round up the sensational figures)......100 out of 16,000......what majority???!!!!
I can mention many sports that do not involve KILLING the opposition. Swearing at someone is not lethal is it? Next time you see a bird, start swearing at it, it will make us all much happier than having you shoot it :) Funny you brought it up. On the same note, i never saw hunting included in the list of olympic sports. Why isn't there the hunting world cup?
With regards to legal hunting, i stated earlier i am in favour of this, however with people like YOU claiming to be 'legal' hunters, i am getting my serious reservations about it also. Maybe its about time you learn a lesson once and for all and realise that most of Malta are fed up with the attitude of hunters and their representatives, the FKNK! Stop coming up with excuses to defend the people that shoot protected species and you will see that public opinion will quickly shift in your favour.
Finally i see the questions i asked you earlier went unanswered. The silence speaks for itself!
Just recently a life saving drug was being denied to patients 'just' because it was deemed too expensive.....can someone determine the aggregate cost of these doves that hunters (so egoistically I say) crave to eat!
Government has a responsibility to act in the common good, and override any pretentious expectations that are not worth their cost - conclusive action has been long overdue.
We are waiting.......
You are right. With today's status quo situation, the hunters will still continue with the rampage. One solution is to elect Alternattiva Demokratika to parliament, as it is the ONLY party who has the political will to do something about the issue of hunting.
No matter how many restrictions the local government imposes on them -
You can't beat the Huntards.
The Huntards always win.
The only way to beat a Huntard is to impose high jail terms (no clemency) and catch him in the act.
Once he's out (preferably some 3 to 5 years later), simply rinse and repeat.
Check your facts before commenting! If you want to make a comment on the hunters forum you just need to apply for a login name and password. You do not need to be an FKNK member to apply. And just for your information, comments are uploaded real time unlike Birdlife's guest book which filters all comments and only posts comments that are against hunting!
Vote MLP get MLP
and...
Vote PN get PN (of course!)
Re: "Can I suggest that you try photographing these people in future and passing the photos onto the relevant authorities"
James, It is not that easy to get any incriminating evidence through a still photo for various reasons namely the distance between hunter & prey is too great to include both in one shot and if you did the hunter (and bird) would not be very recognizable. And any sequence stills would easily be dismissed as fabricated. It is obvious that most hunters know this !
@ Kevin Zammit
It doesn't surprise me that you spend the time you are not hunting - READING COMICS !!
You better buy a large stock of COMICS because hunting will soon BANNED FOREVER ! HA HA HA To YOU TOO !!
@ Gerard Cassar
What is a "PROFESSIONAL HUNTER"? - I didn't know we had any !!
Killing these fine harriers, buzzards, falcons, etc., is shameful. But I'm not against people wanting to practice shooting... so I've got an idea.
Why don't hunters breed pigeons? Then they can set them free and shoot them? They could even start by shooting some of the pigeons frequenting those restaurants in Republic Street?
That way some we could solve two problems at once. Less pigeon shit all over the place, and placated hunters...
Comments please...
This lie is repeating itself every year. Everybody remembers this same statment, last year in may, and nobody was arrainged in court.
They are using the same tactics again so that the government will give in to CABS' pressure and close this hunting season.
The truth is that these shootings are rare and everybody knows, including birdlife and the government that the FKNK is always against any illegalities
In fact Kevin I think I’m starting to see through you. I don’t think you are pro hunting at all, I think you are 100% against hunting and are making these comments to give hunting an even worse name than it already has. Well done mate. Keep it up.
Kevin, you'll never stop hunting no matter what?
Do you hunt illegaly? Will you carry on hunting if the promises are broken?
Were you one of the 'hunters' out shooting protected species?
Does this make you feel more of a man?
@ Any hunter federation in Malta, FKNK or St pawl Tat Targa, or whoever Kevin belongs to:
He has admitted breaking the law. Are you going to suspend his membership or condemn his actions. If not you are complicit in his crimes.
Do take action once and for all.
So you are another 'innocent' hunter that never killed a protected species? Your previous comment shows your attitude towards the slaughter of these birds and even if the remote possibility that you indeed never did kill a protected bird were true, your previous comment put you in the same basket as your fellow hunters that do so. As for Parrots, thank God they don't fly over our island or they would be shot too. Finally, the audacity you have to call people brainwashed for standing up against the slaughter of protected birds is laughable. Read you own comments and you will see who is brainwashed. Maybe next hunting season you should out down your gun and go educate yourself a little.
So answer this question Mr. Zammit, are you in favour or against illegal hunting? If as i suspect, you will predictably reply that you are against it, then why are you defending people that are doing this with comments like your first one?
http://forum.huntinginmalta.org.mt//YaBB.pl?num=1221933735
Its because hunters are people like you who confront others by saying things like "I already told you YOU ARE WASTING TIME because we are still going to hunt no matter how much you lie so please try to find another satisfying hobby" that people want hunting to end. Such arguments are brought by people who in fact have no arguments left. Dog and animal fighting is bad - but that does not mean that illegal hunting is good. I am also sure that less dogs die from dog fighting (even if its illegal and totally wrong) than from your so called "hunting"! After all ALL dog fighting is illegal while you have a concession to hunt certain species - but you fail to abide by the rules!
Certainly hunters leave a mess behind them. A much worse mess than any people having a picnic....dead birds!
"CABS seeks hunting ban as 'hundreds' of protected birds are shot"
"Proact Malta Stage II has yet to be launched. Don't forget that our immediate priority must be the birds now in OUR breeding grounds which will have to run the gauntlet of fire in the Autumn. Keep the pressure up RELENTLESSLY. The hunters and their lackeys won't give up without a (dirty) fight - that's for sure"
DAVID CONLIN is a life member of BIRDLIFE MALTA, CABS and the RSPB. The orchestrator of Raptor Camps, (a cover up for the intended ban on hunting in Malta.)
Indeed there are illegalities, they are shameful acts which should not go unpunished. The 2year old September afternoon hunting ban was intended to make the apprehending of these few criminals easier. The police are at the complete disposal of these "protectionists". Yet so far we have not read about arrests .that justify the hundreds of birds reported shot
The fact that CABS are intent on banning hunting makes their reports to say the least dubious. They can only be considered as part of the "STAGE II" plan,
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So hunters are shooting at protected birds because there are no turtle doves? Weren't hunters claiming that they only hunt to eat their catch?
And obviously you are sure that if ever Spring hunting is allowed - hunters will refrain from blasting protected birds.....unfortuantely we know better.
Keep breaking the law and we will see who has the last laugh when the season is closed because of the inexcusible attitude of people like you.
Remember one thing, if hunters break their promises, nobody can expect the government to keep their promises.
To avoid such mistakes I never handled a shot or any other gun.
I saw those marsh harriers on Fri. Such beautiful birds.
"It is about time that the government does something about the issue"
This is the most heard sentence in Malta for many years. Guess what? The government in Malta does not do anything about any issue what so ever. They are just there waiting for MEPA, the transport, the pollution, the cost of living, the dry docks, the hunting, the registration tax and many many many more issues to get solve by who knows who.... a shame.
I am glad to hear that you are a licensed hunther and that you claim respect the law. Most hunters say this, but yet there are many that do the very opposite. I am not saying that you are a case in question but i am sure you will agree that this is true.
Your claim that they upload images of birds from their freezer speaks for itself, i will let others judge your comment. But at least this shows that whilst you might be a law abiding hunter, you are coming up with the same ludicrous excuses that the FKNK use. Should the hunting season be closed, i am sorry but you deserve it.
As for picnics etc, i would like to see where you got this info from. Again, another unfounded comment which others can judge for themselves.
Finally whether one recognises a bird or not is irrelevant. A protected bird is a protected bird whether I can recognise it or not. Whatever next, condone the killing of whales simply because i don't know what the different species look like?
Unfortunately Malta we do not have a lot of hunters which obey the law and do not shot on protected birds.
I do not know why, you poeple cannot enjoy the nature without having the shotgun in hands?!
Lately I was talking to hunter and he admitted on shoting on protecting birds since.... This was his statement.
"Hekk ma nisparalux jien, inizlu haddiehor!" This is a clear example why you people need more education and respect towards these creatures and who admires them!
The bird killers are bringing shame on Malta with there blatant disregard for the law and their refusal to admit some bird killers are acting illegally.
The bird killing issue can be banned completely, by getting all the political parties to agree to act together. That way the bird killers votes cannot be used as a bargaining chip - "either you permit us to kill birds or you will lose our vote" will no longer work.
No I don't know if the people writing here are the ones responsible, but I'm sure some of these people who are against hunters are the ones who leave a mess in the countryside behind them. Why? Because we hunters never leave a mess if we want to catch a dove.
And yes, once i knew the people who left the mess behind them and reported them. But what happened? We hunters still had to clean up everything since no one was sent to clean things up.
I love my country, I am against illegalities but please banning hunting is upsurd. Why other countries can hunt and us no? There are millions of illegalities in EU but since they have big lands everything is concealed. Check out on the internet how many birds of prey die because of poison and illegal traps - in the UK!
Shame on both the government and the opposition for not speaking on these atrocities . I guess as usual birds do not have voting capacity, but be assured that we vote and when the time comes we will see who speaks about these things .
@ George Casha, excellent idea George. If these people cannot behave in a civilised way then their guns should be permanently confiscated.
@ Jonathan Beacom, As a fellow photographer you will be well aware of the phrase a photo says 1000 words. Can I suggest that you try photographing these people in future and passing the photos onto the relevant authorities. I’ve seen such things myself on Gozo but either didn’t have my camera or I just had my compact instead of the DSLR.
As for the majority of Maltese being in favour of hunting can I suggest a referendum? If the majority is indeed in favour of hunting it will end the debate. If on the other hand the majority is against it hunting should be banned forever. What do you say hunters, will you put your money where your mouths are?
"we hunters always have to collect rubbish from people who do BBQs and Picnics in the countryside and leave a whole mess.....and guess what......then they write against hunting!".
Are you saying that the people who write against hunting leave a mess in the countryside? How do you know this? And if you know of someone who does, why don't you report him to the police?
mr michael, I am licenced to hunt like all the europeans are. I am Maltese like you are and I accept the local authorities to monitor the country side.
And were are the hundreds of protected species shot? I go hunting everyday in key sites and i never ever heard a hundred of shots ahseb u ara kem hundreds of protected birds are killed! Why don't they prove it? Always uploading images from their freezer .
Mr Vella, we love nature more then you do, we hunters always have to collect rubbish from people who do BBQs and Picnics in the countryside and leave a whole mess.....and guess what......then they write against hunting! come on.
And another point Mr Vella, do you recognize a honey buzzard, from a harrier? A greenfinch from a linnet? A sisken from a serin? Don't tell me you do, because I've been hunting and trapping from 7yrs in order to recognize them even from hundreds of metres away! So for you everythin is the same!
I always felt that just because I am against hunting, that never meant that it should be banned.
Now, with the hunter's continually shooting themselves in the foot, even to the point of having a high ranking official fined for illegal trapping(sylvia Zarb Darmanin was too busy counting fingers to note), I shall just sit back and enjoy the music.
After all the Bird life, and the old MOS campaignsproved fruitless, it seems that the hunter's are going to manage thier destruction all by themselves. THANKS.
I just pity the hunters' who are law abiding. These law breakers are responsible for your bad reputation, and shall be responsible for a total ban soon.
R Buttigieg. ARe you serious?..that was what A borg Cardona was saying..that the majority are NOt in favour of hunting! My oh my..how embarrasing...ABC...you are personally responsible for the world's destruction*sigh*
I would much rather have them roam our country side than you. So please CABS & ALE keep up the good work. The authorities should provide the ALE with more resources to bring the culprits of these CRIMES to justice. The birds or not your but they are for us ALL to enjoy, and that includes other Europeans not only Maltese. After all, contrary to what you might think we do not live in a bubble and thank God we are not an isolated state!
is one bird. haha what a laugh.
Your comments amuse me, please keep them coming. As for the documents you have, i am sure they do not mention that it is ok for a few to keep shooting protected species of birds to stuff and put on their mantlepiece at home. Nor does it condone such actions and nor does it state that hunters are immune from punishment because of the actions of the 'few' hunters that persist on killing these protected birds. As for the majority of maltese being in favour of hunting, i would love to know where you got this information. Did you perform a scientific survey and attach it to your prized document? Maybe you are dreamig after all! Sometimes as the english saying goes...silence is golden! Now let me guess what you reply to this will be, no doubt you will ask me to keep to the above saying lol
Speak for yourself. Most of the Maltese DO NOT WANT HUNTING. FKNK & Hunters think that since they are round about 6000, they can declare themselves as "The Majority".
Go home and leave these birds alone. YOU ARE AIDING IN THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WORLD.
Shall we ask them to send you a couple of protected birds riddled with bullets home, so you might believe what they are saying?
Secondly, it is not at all easy to identify hunters, particularly when early before dawn, in a wooded area and when there are many hunters around. You can hear a barrage of shots and can easily see a bird being gunned down or injured and therefore witness an illegal act but how easy is it to pin point the person/s who have shot the birds?
You can report that poaching is taking place. But to prosecute you need to either catch the poacher red handed or catch him in possession of a protected bird. That is why it is easy to witness illegalities, particularly where large easily visible birds are involved, but it is not so easy to prosecute successfully.
Then don't read it, dear Patrick.
These people must be stopped and removed license immediately. We have exterminated any species that exist on this island, and any bird migratting that is seen movingt is shot down.
One important issue regarding this horrible killing spree, is that it is being passed to our children as a tradition from their parents! Children must be educated that this is all wrong! We must enjoy these majestic creatures and not kill them!
Such traditions must be stopped! We are in 2008!!! But some Maltese still live in 0050 BC!
Before anyone gives me the "but you should report these people", sorry, am at home from September 15th-30th. Am banned from hunting after 3.00pm....apparently the poachers are not. So much for that!
Last Spring, thanks to the fact that there was no hunting, I was able to see more unusual birds flying overhead than I have ever done before.
As for the comments that we should ban cars, cigarettes, alcohol etc., these are childish comments. Every issue must be tackled in the most effective ways. The way forward on protecting birds is to ban hunting, whereas the curbing of other illegalities must be tackled separately and intelligently (if we have any of that left!)
As for the comment related to political parties, I am highly sceptical that any party will do any more, and manage to win the battle, on the hunting problem.
Regarding foreigners helping to monitor the situation, there is nothing wrong in having foreigners help out where we Maltese cannot cope.
@Robert Nock your comment is appreciated.
@ Dennis Agius, Shooting from 3pm till dark with the exact location, and you failed to report, but preferred to report here. Is their something funny?
I am a law abiding hunter and I expect that since these CABS specialists possess video footage of poachers (if there are any) shooting illegaly then these videos should be handed to the ALE rather than to boost with local & foreign media!
Another point is that law abiders have nothing to do with the rest & there are far more law abiders than poachers as CABS confirm. In there reports they said that approx 0 hunters were in mizieb, 40 out of 20,000 is insignificant therefore CABS has the duty to hand over hard evidence to sustain their allegations and to apprehend the culprits.
Poaching is illegal & therefore should be stopped rather than minimised for the sake of our pastimes, traditions and MALTA. Besides CABS has the duty to also prepare a report re Germany's illegal hunting problem!
After over 20 years of close encounters with these people I can assure you that the vast majority of so called hunters break the law and shoot at protected birds at every opportunity.
I have witnessed many large scale massacres of large birds and birds of prey all over the islands, I have even seen hunters firing at flamingos off the back of a moving pick-up truck in Gozo !!
I have been verbally abused and threatened at gunpoint on public land and shots have occasionally been fired over my head but I always stood my ground and got on with my work.
No matter what the hunters association says, these abuses happen daily !
If the FKNK keeps on encouraging the lawless behavior of most of its members, and making irresponsible statements about 'interfering foreigners', than they should be prepared to suffer the consequences when even legitimate Turtle Dove & Quail hunting is abolished for ever. ...KEEP IT UP FKNK ! ...MAKE OUR DAY !!
This of course can only happen in a civilized country, unfortunately this is Malta where the law of the jungle prevails on a daily basis. The gross incompetence of the Authorities in all areas makes it much harder to accept this sad situation, but these are the facts we are faced with everyday and nobody can deny them.
I don't think that CABS had the intention to give detailed and precise figures in such a report. Seeing six birds hit does not mean that only 6 were hit. Saying that nearly a whole flock was wiped out should mean something though (quoting from the report from what bird guard Shai Agmon said).
The problem of illegal hunting will only stop when those hunters who do not break the law join forces with all those who are against the killing of protected species. Till now, none of the hunters seems to be lifting a finger against those who are killing birds of prey, and please, do not tell me that birds of prey are not being killed!
The hunting lobby often states that there are only few irresponsible hunters, but from what I am seeing, there are only few responsibile, and that is the reason why the hunters are not pin-pointing who is breaking the law! In my opinion, yes, the only solution is to STOP HUNTING IMMEDIATELY as this morning showed that the Maltese hunters will NOT obey the law if birds come over!
Regarding the number of people that were caught by the police, one cannot expect miracles from a dozen police officers! They are not superCops!
Political parties should finally realise that by clamping down hard on hunting they stand to gain more votes rather than lose.
As for the abolition of hunting completely, yes, Sir, keep on dreaming!
The birds were amazing and there were a lot in the sky. This morning i went again to see them flying back to the south, but i didn't count that much. Could be that they migrated during the night.
I hope so.
40 hunters, 150 shots, 6 birds hit but kept flying, etc etc etc.
Was the end of spring hunting and the end of trapping a dream perhaps?
"for in that case they (tourists) would be interfering in our internal affairs which is none of their business."
Perhaps I.Galea would like to see tha foreign interference law reactivated!
We are not an island anymore. whatever happens here effects the rest of the world and vice versa.
How can one expect that hunters abide with the Law when some time ago we heard on the news that one of the main personality in the hunting federation was found guilty for helping a trapper at gozo to trap illegally?
Shame on you all? If the LAW ABIDING hunters disagree with what had happened and want the hunting and trapping to continue they are to report all those responsable of the massacre which is occuring. Malta is a small country were everyone knows everyone.
The only think is left to do is to close the hunting season like it had been done last year.
Mr Goverment we are after you once again. Act quickly please!!!!!!!!
However, hunting should be different. All the birds that can be legally shot are edible and not endangered. Of course you can argue that it is an element of cruelty, but than so are all activities where animals are kept or caught and killed for human consumption (fishing, keeping and killing livestock, chicken etc). If you are a vegetarian or believer in animal rights, I respect your views even though I may not share them.
But for the rest of us who eat meat (animals shot), chicken (decapitated), fish (hooked) and so on, it seems inconsistent to be so intolerant of hunting (as in legal hunting). But of course these illegalities are completely unacceptable, and as you rightly said, shooting down a bird to leave it there (or place it in a cabinet) is simply not on. Well done CABS
I would much enjoy commenting and discussing the hunting issue with persons like you, Sir. Unfortunately, I am stuck with receiving insults and rude comments from individuals who do not know otherwise!!
I don't wish to give the impression of being pro-hunting in any way - actually I am pretty much in favour of stricter regulations and merciless enforcement, however such a farcical article could not but make me raise an eyebrow.
Enjoying bigilla and local delicacies at the Fosos Floriana?
Mr. A. Xuereb, how rude can one get? Excuse me, Sir, I WILL NOT SHUT UP, even moreso since it seems that my comments bothers you and quite a number of other contributors.
Mr. J. Scerri and Co, keep on dreaming! Law-abiding hunters have all the right to practice their traditional pastime within the parameters of the Law.
Mr. J. Borg, since when has the responsibility of law-breakers (whatever the wrong-doing) fallen on co-citizens? Furthermore, it appears that your language of speech needs much polishing. A person is known through his words and actions - your rude comments are not reflecting so positively on you!
Ms. Emma Xerri, could you please enlighten me as to where I may look up the 80% statistic you mention? Being presumptuous and throwing inflated figures around is no surprise, especially when coming from the anti-hunting side.
Mr. C. Aquilina, with your line of reasoning, we have many individuals who "are guilty by association". Remember? - Illegal hunting is not the only illegality we have in Malta.
SAME GOES TO MLP UTD'S SUPPORTERS. WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTION TIME, ALL YOU CARE FOR IS YOUR FLAGS !
ALTERNATTIVA; HUNTERS ONLY REAL POLITICAL THREAT WILL NEVER MAKE IT TO PARLIAMENT !
INDEED...EVERY PEOPLE HAVE THE GOVERNMENT IT DESERVES. WE ARE NO EXCEPTION.
You are too passive!
I would not want to be in your position seeing those beautiful creatures being shot. It must have been very sad.
I have a plan!
Any protected species that is in the Maltese territorial waters or land should be declared national sovereign treasure while on our land.
CABS should be temporarily integrated with the revenue security corps.
CABS should be assigned on escort duty to birds.
Any Maltese national treasure that is threatened should be protected and
CABS should be given permission to arrest hunters on the spot.
If you need volunteers I would be the first in line my friends, it is time these people get some of their own medicine back.
J.
All those in favour of hunting should be ashamed. Shame on you all!!
Can someone tell me what is so nice and glorius in shooting a bird down ... worst of all, shooting it down and leaving it there.
With the number of shots CABS claimed as being fired and the number of birds that are claimed as being shot down there is no fear that any bird is threatened with extinction by Maltese hunters.
If tourists won't come because they do not like hunting then so be it.
No one should threaten or hold the Maltese Government at ransom, especially foreigners, for in that case they would be interfering in our internal affairs which is none of their business.
I am a member and active supporter of Bird Life Malta but I do not object to legal hunting.
I have many hunters as friends and most (but not all) are law abiding.
The problem (as I see it) is that Malta with its high population density and and small huntable areas leaves very little room for hunting,and every illegal event makes headline news, where it would be of little or no consequence in the national media of larger countries within the EU.
This is not to excuse the illegal shooting of protected birds in Malta. In fact i believe that the legitmate Maltese hunters would benefit from more policing by such bodies as the ALE, or other bodies such as Birdlife & CABS. and would be better served by hunting organisations such as FKNK if they were to control their members.
" With Spring hunting banned, what are some of the hunters who might not be in a position to control themselves expected to do? "
What sort of justification is this? People not in a position to control themselves should not be running around carrying shotguns! And people trying to defend them are accomplices in their crimes.
Birds Life is irreplaceable not like other sectors of abuse especially if the birds go extinct.
With Spring hunting banned, what are some of the hunters who might not be in a position to control themselves expected to do? Why all this fuss about 11 birds? Does Mr. Conlin eat chicken or turkey on Thanksgiving?
May I suggest that the autobahns in Germany and the motorways in Wales be converted to nature reserves if and when 11 road accidents, or other infringements, take place on such roads.
If the Germans and the Welsh are so eager to help 11 birds to return to Africa, why is it that they do not show the same enthusiasm to help us and take “hundreds” of illegal immigrants back to Africa, or to Germany and Wales, for that matter?
Perhaps we need to remember one of the parables, and those among us – including CABS members - who have never broken the law in some way or another throw the first stone against the hunters.
Malta is a tourist driven economy, that is a fact. Take the tourist income out of the economy and the country will find itself in a very serious situation. I am therefore asking the Maltese Government through the Times to answer this very simple question. Are you willing to jeopardise the economy of your country in order to secure the votes of a few hunters?
I sincerely hope that hunting is banned again, but this time for good, as it is quite obvious that these people cannot police themselves in a responsible manner. I too live on an island but you could count on one hand the number of protected birds, which are shot down here in a year. When it happens here it is accidental because our hunters have respect for their sport.
@ Geoffrey Mifsud and others, just give me one ONLY ONE sector that there are no abuses and that they don't repeat themselves, and then we ban hunting.
Shame on you. Whatever the wrong and I do not agree with hunting, I detest people who go asking big brother to punish their siblings. Foreigners should look after their own affairs in their own countries and stop picking upon tiny Malta.
CABS
What happens in your own country?
Why don't you dare to go to Egypt and other African countries and try to stop the massacres that happen there? Or are you chickens?
As an aside, judging by the number of shots that CABS claims were fired and the number of birds that they claim were shot down, they have nothing to fear about the extinction of any bird species. Maltese hunters were certified by CABS themselves to be lousy shooters.
Why are they not caught and brought before the courts ?
They should feel the full wrath of the law Maximum Penalty even if it means prison.
But I keep asking WHY ?
What happened to Self Regulation proposed by the FKNK ?
If a number of football supporters, regardless of the percentage, damage property, the CLUB has to pay! Hence, even in this scenario, HUNTING SHOULD STOP as the hunting federation is there simply to attack EVERYBODY who dare say something against the killing of birds, regardless if they are saying the truth or not! I never heard FKNK saying that it took any action against any of its members!
And just for the benefit of those with a sense of humour by-pass, I'm being heavily sarcastic: if these reports of illegal hunting are true, it is time to ban hunting once and for all NOW.
The last election proved beyond doubt that the vote of the hunting lobby is no longer strong enough to topple scales - which was the reason why these people have have had it so good for so long.
If the goverment wants to convince us that the environment is being given the priority it deserves, the hunting season should be closed IMMEDIATELY.
I agree with you,But to ban hunting once and for all you have to have a Government with guts, this is something that this Government have never shown.
I have always argued that law abiding hunters and trappers have the right to their hobby (and I still do) but all those who consider themselves as law abiding hunters and yet try to minimise the extent of the problem of illegal hunting are themselves accomplices in this saga and fully deserve all the flak and any further restrictions that may result from this continued widespread illegality.
As to the FKNK the less said the better. They clearly are happier targeting birdlife and CABS than doing anything to bring about order to the hunting situation. The extent of illegalities and the type of comments we have recently heard from an FKNK official do nothing to enhance the tarnished image of hunting in Malta.
If law abiding hunters are happy with this type of leadership, then I’m afraid that they will also have to be happy with the consequences that this continued widespread illegality will have on their tradition.
These people will never ever learn. They have assumed that they have control of whatever roams in the skies.
My opinion is that tougher measures should be adopted:
1. An immediate ban on hunting is obvious.
2. Suspension of all hunting licences with immediate effect.
3. Recalling of all guns and weapons used by hunters, which shall be kept by the police department.
4. Budget is close - A hefty increase in license fees for hunting, and I mean hefty. If hunters consider this as a pastime and a hobby, let them pay for it. Make the 'pastime' an expensive one.
5. Increased the fines payable under current law. I also suggest the introduction of imprisonment of a minimum 3 months maximum 6 months for those still caught hunting illegally.
6. Referendum. 1 simple question - should hunting be completely banned all year round in Malta - yes or no. Political parties should not take sides on this please.