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Updated: More illegal immigrants reach Malta

Photo: Jason Borg

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A total of 108 illegal immigrants landed in Malta in two groups this afternoon.

The first 31, landed at Delimara early in the afternoon. Seventeen men, two women, a boy and a girl were found on land and another 10 men were on a boat trying to escape. They were escorted to land by the Adminsitrative Law Enforcement police.

The second group, of 77, including two women, were landed at Wied il-Buni at about 3 p.m. They were brought to shore by the Armed Forces of Malta on two AFM patrol boats after they were rescued from rough seas by the container vessel Stadt Goslar some 50 miles south west of Malta.

They were spotted by the vessel’s crew stranded on a crammed rubber dinghy whose engine had stalled.

The Stadt Goslar also took on board a migrant who had been rescued by a Spanish fishing trawler.

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Carmen Hopkins (on 26/8/08)
Are any of these illigal immigrants landing in Malta given a health check up mainly blood tests.
Sandro Pace (on 26/8/08)
@ R Borg

Love it or hate it, most are not that submissive to this unfair taking of our land.

Please stop dreaming now.

And you go it even wrong on the Dalai Lama. He was referring to a different context wherein Tibet region remains within China, renouncing to total independence.

But if you know a thing of what the Dalai Lama stands for, you should know that he is and will always remain vociforous against the settlements and 'immigration' of ethnic Chinese in the Tibetan region. Something which he usually refers to 'CULTURAL GENOCIDE'.

Something which is also happening to MALTA.
We need tough leaders, not the cheesecakes we now have.

If the world recognises that 'mass immigration' is cultural genocide everywhere, why not in Malta. Why does the government fail to make such a point internationally? What does he fear?

No, indifference is not an option. The people will be educated that this is cultural genocide on the maltese, and it is up the them to make their mind and their attitudes.
D Fenech (on 26/8/08)
Emma Xerri and Charles Sammut's arguments make a lot of sense in my opinion.
@ R Borg... No on the contrary it is important to keep the comments coming. Just accepting the situation would be adopting defeatist attitude.
The politicians are pretending that they do not heed these comments but I am sure they do.

R Borg (on 26/8/08)
During the Tibetian protests in Tibet earlier this year, the Dalai Lama told the tibetians that love it or hate it they have to live together with the chinese rulers.

Here again, love it or hate it, the maltese has to live with these immigrants. The EU or Libya are not going to do anything to help us, the government and the opposition are going to do anything and the election is 5 years away.

Please stop complaining now!
Michelle Dali (on 26/8/08)
@Charles Sammut
Very good point. Well done for raising this crutial issue.
Charles Sammut (on 26/8/08)
Frontex has exacerbated the illegal immigration problem for Malta. What Frontex is doing is shepherding boats towards Malta when they would have continued on towards Italy. By the end of the season Frontex would have resulted in 50% more Africans arriving in Malta. If anyone doubts this please ask anyone in the AFM who is involved in this task.

There are now well in excess of 10,000 Africans in Malta, most of them able bodied men in their prime and a good number of whom have military training. How many able bodied men can the AFM and police muster? I wouldn't put it past 800, and I am being optimistic.
Emma Xerri (on 26/8/08)
@M. Mercieca - This is not just a monetary matter and nor by the way is it a racist one. Just because the EU is funding these illegals while they are in Malta and hoisting them on other European citizens in mainland Europe. This exercise will forever change the face of Europe as we know it and divide the unity amongst its citizens that has been the hallmark of European identity and social progress.

This also begs the question, why is the EU so in favour of breaking down the homogeneity of every European country? Are there some secret agreements with North African countries which the citizens of Europe are not privy too? All I know is that the EU has a lot of programmes to help the process of the integration of North African countries with Europe, most under the euphemism of "Mediterranean" which means all the countries of North Africa.
Reuben Zammit (on 26/8/08)
As the EU is definitely not taking this invasion of illegal immigrants seriously and Frontex seems to be nothing more then a gimmick, Malta should take matters in its own hands. Give these immigrants a passport and thus EU citizenship on arrival in exchange for the promise that they will leave our shores and escort them to the next ferry out of Malta. Then let the EU deal with the problem.
Charlie Grech (on 26/8/08)
I think you better repair their boat and send them back. Malta is to become Africa. Too much is too much.
Emma Xerri (on 26/8/08)
@ Mellisa Bagley, - yes, certainly that they can be placed very accurately to their country of original based on their language and dialects, providing you have linguists worth their salt. Alternatively, just send them back to Libya were they started from and let the Libyans figure out which tribe they belong to.
adrian pace (on 25/8/08)
Complacency....more complacency by our government.

We should be ashamed at the inability of our MEP's to deliver, ashamed at our presiden't visit to Libya which only brought more dishonour to this nation.

We have become the laughing stock of the mediterranean, our armed forces and police have been outnumbered by these illegal immigrants and we still fail to call a state of emergency and refuse to let them in. Our euro parliamentarians are still pressuring the EU for more frontex funding while we have dropped below crisis level. Libya is obviously enjoying our humiliation after having imposed a visa on it's nationals when we joined the EU.

Anybody voicing concern is either brought to trial or labelled a racist by the liberalist movement which us running this nation and controlling our media.

History will repeat itself!
Melissa Bagley (on 25/8/08)
I just LOVED the comment posted by Emma Xerri:

"based on the language and dialect that they speak this can be done easily and accurately".

This is where the fun starts. Multilingualism is the norm. It is normal for people living in Africa to speak 4 or 5 languages, and toss in a couple of dialects. Keep posted on forensic linguistics and you'll find that the phrase "easily and accurately" is far from the truth.
A. Muscat (on 25/8/08)

An open invitation to all:

Culture and tourism protectionists
Our futures generation guards
Please click the following link and post some comments on one of our SERIOUS PROBLEMS
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20080825/local/party-culture-fuelling-demand-for-cocaine

All our Gale’s – Vella’s –Sammuts’s –Camilleri’s –Pace’s are welcomed
martin said (on 25/8/08)
In my humble opinion there are 3 ways to solve problems.

1/ Be proactive. See the problem coming and do something about it to avoid it.

2/ Be reactive. Do something when the problem is already there.

3/ Sit down in a corner and hope that the problem will be solved by itself.

Seems our leaders have opted to option 3 as they hardly ever say anything about this growing problem. Cant imagine what they are capable of doing if for some reason we have a dispute with North African countries. EU does not seem to have any interest in our problem. Dr. Simon Busuttil seems to be hoping that something will be done but I really dont believe it ever will.

Hope govt opens its eyes and listens to the people. Surely they read what is written and if they do they should know what the Maltese people are feeling.

They must keep in mind that they represent MALTESE AND NOT AFRICANS.

ACTION PLEASE BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.
R.Gauci (on 25/8/08)
@M.Muscat

The Answer to your question No.1 :

Man charged with rape
Mumin Trabulé, a 21-year-old man from Ivory Coast, currently residing at Ħal Fal Tent City has pleaded not guilty to attempting to rape two women and raping a third between March and this month.

Police inspector Carlo Ellul said Mr Trabulé was an illegal immigrant who arrived in Malta two years ago without any identification and did not have a permanent address.

The charges against him were serious so granting him bail would not be suitable.

Defense lawyer Mark Busuttil said that Mr Trabulé should not be denied bail just because he was a foreigner.

However, Inspector Ellul argued that the accused had admitted, in a police statement, to the attempted rape of one of the women.

Mr Trabulé was remanded in custody.


I Alamango (on 25/8/08)
Come on guys we have to defend our country! we can't take this anymore. We have to show our teeth and pressure government to Act and not just comment and nothing is done! Are we still patriotic? We have to defend our country, our life, our children's future. I am not a racist but we cannot support all this influx anymore. We are overpopulated in this tiny country, We are burdened with expenses, and we cannot afford to reach out in the nearly empty pockets to subsidise them anymore from our income! There are more priorities in malta than handing them to these individuals so that they could be 'livin la vida loca' . Population of immigrants has reach too much now and it seems that the government is daydreaming. Some pressure from us will surely help and action has to be taken.

Writing just comments on comments in every single article on this site with regards to this topic will not help!
Raymond Sammut (on 25/8/08)
@ Andrew Camilleri

Please lead by example, Mr Camilleri. You know how to get to Marsa, Birzebbuga, Hal Safi, ...

If Malta has never been a nice country to you, it may yet be. This is your opportunity. Go ahead and do what you think is right.
Joe Galea (on 25/8/08)
Please keep the boats for when the time comes for us Maltese inhabitants to flee the country.

Well done to the government for the strong action he is taking in this respect...also thanks EU for not even giving a crap about Malta.

Let's all go to Africa!!
Raymond Sammut (on 25/8/08)
@ M. Mercieca

Do you have anything new to say?

"• No power on earth will stop a hungry human to get food and security."

Would you have the cheek to suggest that a human, or an animal for that matter, couldn't get food in a continent the size of Africa? In tiny Malta, almost all food items are imported, some of them even from Africa itself.

" ... only reflect our xenophobic and racist sentiments ... "

Speak for yourself. What exactly are you on about, M. Mercieca.
John Borg (on 25/8/08)
And for those of you who see this problem merely a financial one, boy have you got it all wrong! That is what the politicians would like us to believe, just to hide the real issue! This country will be over-run in a short span of decades. Any of those activists who preach human rights (and I am in no way against such rights) should be honest with us all and defend our human rights too. We have a right to "belong" to our homelands, just as the immigrants have a right to belong to theirs. Soon we will be forced to live in a completely alien culture to ours, to help our visitors assimilate to their new surroundings. It will be offensive to have Christian effigies, feasts and maybe even Christmas cribs, as this too seems to offend their relatives in the UK. We are simply becoming a vehicle of the illegal business of transporting these unfortunate people and a sort of laundering station, to clean up what was and still is illegal.
Again, I believe that we need MEP's who have the guts and courage to speak out in our favour and safeguard what is ours.
John Borg (on 25/8/08)
The only way we can voice our opinion on this matter is through our vote. With the forthcoming MEP elections, we should forget about partisan politics and only vote for those who have the guts to go against the flow and speak out for our rights! If these so called refugees (most of them are simply economic migrants landing on our shores illegally) have rights, so do we. Being born and raised in a foriegn country, I saw my homeland literally taken over by illegal Asian immigrants who then were given legal status and shipped in their entire extended families. This was Australia, a land mass so huge, it could take millions, but the effect was there. Can you people imagine Malta and the serious demographic changes in say 20 years time? Wake up. It is already late and we will regret it. Maybe not us, but our children. Gone is the Malta we once knew. Forget festa's and whatever is in our blood. It will all change. If my defence of my heritage will earn me the label of a racist, which I am not, so be it. At least it will not be "mea culpa".
Charles Sammut (on 25/8/08)
Judge for yourselves the physical condition of these people who claim that they are escaping from genicide, persecution, hunger and crossing deserts and seas to come to Malta.
M.Muscat (on 25/8/08)
The problem has now become a crisis. Let me ask a few questions and please try to understand.
1 What will happen in 12months time when most of these migrants will be roaming our streets?
2 Where will they work? Perhaps exploited by some well off bloodsuckers.
3 Where will they be accomodated? Perhaps by epening open cantres around Malta and Gozo.
4 How and where will they receive healthcare? Perhaps by increasing taxes, surcharge, etc. and by using Mater Dei while you wait years for your needs.
5How will they affect our culture, religion, health, tourism and the overall economy?
6 How is it that all powers that be - government, opposition, unions, church authorities, especially media, MEP,s - choose to remain silent?
7 Why are we all being ignored and cast away? Perhaps it's not election time.
8 Will you ever trust and vote these people again?
Andrew Camilleri (on 25/8/08)
What a nice country we live in! We are offended if someone calls us racist yet we do not want to help these people out citing taxes and CULTURE. WE also condemn protest and demonstrations done by various sectors in Maltese community as outdated and out of touch. Yet what do people on this blog propose - yet another protest march!

We have to accept the reality that this is a phenomenon which is here to stay and we must adapt ourselves in order to help these people assimilate themselves into our society as much as possible. Segregation will ALWAYS make things worse.
Owen Sant Angelo (on 25/8/08)
Let's all keep an eye on the placing of Malta in this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density
Better than watching Eurovision but, at this rate, just as predictable.
M.Muscat (on 25/8/08)
The problem has now become a crisis. Let me ask a few questions and please try to understand.
1 What will happen in 12months time when most of these migrants will be roaming our streets?
2 Where will they work? Perhaps exploited by some well off bloodsuckers.
3 Where will they be accomodated? Perhaps by epening open cantres around Malta and Gozo.
4 How and where will they receive healthcare? Perhaps by increasing taxes, surcharge, etc. and by using Mater Dei while you wait years for your needs.
5How will they affect our culture, religion, health, tourism and the overall economy?
6 How is it that all powers that be - government, opposition, unions, church authorities, especially media, MEP,s - choose to remain silent? Perhaps they have something to hide and have a finger in the pie - otherwise how do you explain this silence.
7 Why are we all being ignored and cast away? Perhaps it's not election time.
8 Will you ever trust and vote these people again? If your answer is "yes" , you must be mad.
M. Mercieca (on 25/8/08)
Some points we should consider while we debate:
Whatever they are called, boat peoples, Irregular, illegal, undocumented immigrant, this is an increasing phenomena and will stay with us.
• The government is doing the right job, and receiving funds from EU to handle irregular immigrants that eventually send to other EU countries. No penny is taken from our taxes to immigrants. (Debatable)
• We should never listen to the peoples that the immigrants for political gains. Same peoples scaremonger the public aiming to create tension and press the government (in vain)
• Social tension only reflect our xenophobic and racist sentiments, which again enables EU, human rights organizations to slam us on the face.
• No power on earth will stop a hungry human to get food and security.
• The topic has also bestowed xenophobic and racist peoples a good cloak to come into sight patriots like! And this is against EU values.

• Just because some persons do not have documents, it does not mean they do not have rights.

• Malta is a country that forms part of the international community and not (isolated Bocca-Club in Mosta or Hamrun)
I
Raymond Sammut (on 25/8/08)
@ Joseph Caruana

This is a poignant part of what was reported by the International Herald Tribune on June 12, 2007:

Quote:
Friso Roscam Abbing, spokesman for Frattini, added that a program dividing up illegal migrants among EU members could act as a magnet. "I do not see how we can share out illegal migrants. It would give a bad signal to say, 'You can come, we will save you, we will distribute you among ourselves,' " he said.:Unquote

The Maltese interior minister at the time was Tonio Borg. Since then, Tonio Borg called it quits, and is now enjoying a more lucrative portfolio.

It is now left to the current interior minister to say himself what Tonio Borg and the EU could not get themselves to say to the illegal immigrants:

'You can come, we will save you, we will distribute you among ourselves'.

And here they are: 27+27+27+27=108.

This picture says it all.

Mr Joseph Caruana, you took to liberty and acted as spokesman for the interior minister in this blog. Can you now please enlighten us on the contingency plan that had been promised by the interior minister?
Michelle Dali (on 25/8/08)
I am horrified to read about the number of illegal immigrants (mostly men) landing in Malta every day! The government must act immediately to stop this influx and protect its citizens. I feel the comments posted by Emma Xerri and so many others on this subject are very valid. When will the government listen to its people? I hope and pray it won't wait until it is too late and this beautiful country with its idyllic lifestyle will be irrepairably damaged.
dbugeja (on 25/8/08)
@Andrew Borg Cardona
Those who are saying send them back are not saying shoot them or let them drown so your comment is senseless.

I am no racist and respect them as well. but I don t like thousand of people coming to my country without any documentation and in a few years time they will walk all over us.
Just look at Marsa and Birzebbugia, these places are almost a no goers for maltese.
The situation is getting out of hand, just think about tourism or maybe your income doesnt depend on tourism. How about the welfare we are paying to them. and then the government will say that Malta doesn t have money for pensions and for those promises he made before election to those people who bought property beleiving that the government is going to help them and then he said no more money.

What would Libya say or countries if we were to go illegally into their country.
Some say they don t want to come to Malta and yet the number has increased. They have sent very few to USA so we are encouraging them.

Carmen Portelli (on 25/8/08)
Almost every day on the Times on line I read about illegals arriving in Malta. Not once have I seen a report, press release or comments or anything of the sort by the PM on this problem. Am I missing a page of this paper?
Edward de Bono (on 25/8/08)
Its about time the goverment calls for an emerency meeting in Brussels to put an end to this huge problem, the figures just keeps rising and will not stop, were are all these people going to live ? And what quality of life will they have ? 400,000 maltese and please missunderstand me in the right way, if 100,000 are children 100,000 are pensioners there are 200,000 tax payers to pick up the bill for what makes the country run, how many more taxpayers would we need to pick up just what 108 illegal migrants will cost.
Even if the EU is helping ( I don`t know, I presume) Do we need this sort of help which will later on be thrown back at our agruments ? Who from the other 26 are coming over to look into the situation as it is: Next time an EU minister comes over and they soon will due to the new presidency , lets show them how and why we can`t cope anymore, lets inform him that all other items on the agenda whatever be it defence, climate,approving new candidates for membership, whatever, will be blocked untill MALTAS problem is solved.
C Bonello (on 25/8/08)
Well, everyone seems to be unhappy about the situation, and clearly no one has the proper solution, because there aint no easy way to solve this issue. This is an international problem which can only be solved if all nations cooperate (even the ones who arent directly affected)

there is one mathematical formula about to solve this problem:

a fair distribution of immigrants to all "1st world" countries according to following criteria:
- population density of the country
- area of country
- economic wellbeing of the country (GDP per capita)

if all these 3 variables are taken into account a simple equation can be formed to distribute all immigrants all over the world. (for instance for every individual we host, countries like america would have to accomodate 1000 )

3 questions i constantly ask myself about these immigrants:

1. Do they get medical tests regarding HIV / other STDs?
2. Why are about 95% of all immigrants MEN?
3. What impact will malta have with all these men knowing that statisticaly speaking Africa has an Adult HIV Prevelance of 15% !! ?
Emma Xerri (on 24/8/08)
We have had enough of talk and discussion .
We have practical solutions:

1. Renegotiate Malta's Treaties to take into account its small size and homogenous culture. In short adopt a position like 'civilized" Japan that protects its unique culture and heritage. Malta cannot and should not accept refugees or immigrants from ANY country.

Any treaty that states we must take in 'Refugess" must be rescinded immediately and if necessary unilaterally.

We cannot sit and wait as" Lifeboat Malta" sinks under a flood of humanity pouring in. Treaties should not prevent Malta from protecting its national interest if it is being threathened ,and threathened it is! This is not the time for pedantic Eureacrats and nay sayers to tell us we cannot do anything because "we have signed a piece of paper".


2. Repatriate humanely all these so called Refugees back to their country of origin - based on the language and dialect that they speak this can be done easily and accurately.

It is now time for ACTION ! - A LARGE & PEACEFUL protest march in front of Castille is necessary so that the wishes of the Maltese people will not continue to be ignored.
lewis sammut (on 24/8/08)
thanks

to fenech adami, his eu
soon you have to do what lot of people did during mintoff time leave the country while you can
they keep coming soon they out number you
Max Bezzina (on 24/8/08)
The image that introduces an article contains a symbol which reminded me of another used around 70 years ago by some very bad people.

Coincidentally many of the comments I read below also remind me of these bad people and their attitude towards persons they accused of stealing them of their land, their money and their ethnic purity.

Yes in Malta we have a problem with illegal immigrants, there is no denying that. But the problem is not that they are coming to our island, the problems are first that we do not know what to do with these unfortunate people once they are here and second that they keep desperately fleeing their countries . Many of them do not chose to come to Malta, they just leave their countries because they are desperate.

Solutions need to be found, that is for sure, but in the mean time, let us treat these peole with dignity and not comit things that history taught us can lead to abominable things.
John Azzopardi (on 24/8/08)
It is the responsibility of the Prime Minister and his Minister Mifsud Bonnici who are responsible for come up with solutions not the citizen. The citizen elected these officials an entrusted them to do what is good for Malta. The citizen is now fed up. Will the prime minister please speak and come up with some sort of a plan. This is becoming the biggest joke in Europe. I call this ineffective leadership. As for Andrew Borg-Cardona and Mark Alaisio, they need to grow up and shop calling people racist. The two individuals do not speak for the Maltese.
Anderw Camilleri (on 24/8/08)
The situation is getting beyond hopeless.
J. Parnis (on 24/8/08)
Unfortunately, when three years ago the then Leader of the Opposition, Dr. Alfred Sant said 'Rigward l-immigrazzjoni illegali ghandna npoggu l-interess nazzjonali l-ewwel u qabel kollox' he has bombarded from many sectors, (for their obvoius reasons, obviously!!), and even cited episodes from the 80's for comparisions. Incredible!

Instead of accepting the invitation, the statement was used for political mileage.

And for those apologisers, kindly note, that the Government is democratically elected by the majority of people to tackle ALL sorts of problems, not just a fraction, for the benefit of the Maltese Republic and its people, so, concrete action MUST be taken.
apgrech (on 24/8/08)
I don't consider the Italians as racists for protecting their own people. Malta should do the same. It's not the color of the skin that scares me but the fact that we are already overcrowded plus there will be culture and religious friction if the immigrants keep coming over.

I would object even if they were from any other country with blonde hair and blue eyes. We just cannot accomodate so many and it's about time our government does what the Italian government has done - in fact, our President should have done that two weeks ago but he probably forgot!!!!
Marcel Dingli (on 24/8/08)
Well people, I said it and will say it again : You were warned and did not use your vote wisely. Next time round it will be too late. Enjoy the situation, as it is you yourselves who have brought it about. It seems that also people of the like of ABC are admitting we have a problem now.
Denis Catania (on 24/8/08)
You must take it to the streets in a peaceful manner. I'm trying to organize a demonstration in front of the UN and possibly the Malta Mission. All depending on permits of course. I got an encouraging phone call yesterday from a concerned Maltese, he claims he can get me 100-150 demonstrators. Which is a nice number, due to the small Maltese population in New York. Don't wait for the politicians, lawyers, doctors and sympathizers to this for you, as most profit from such events. YOU THE PEOPLE MUST DO IT. You need to take your country back. We can opt out of any treaty we signed, even out of the EU as they are no help. How fast they forget WW2.
Jean-Pierre Aquilina (on 24/8/08)
With the contingency plan in action now that the 2,000 mark has been exceeded - whatever that 'plan' is - we can now put our minds at rest knowing that the highest authorities are dealing with the problem for the benefit of us Maltese.
Sandro Pace (on 24/8/08)
@ Mr. de Bono

The issue is more than a financial one. And if you think that it 'all' boils down to that, you are gravely mistaken.
Sandro Pace (on 24/8/08)
Defending ourselves against this illegality is not illegal, and if it is on paper, it should not matter. We are defending, not attacking.

Defending the government for its indifference will not do any headway. There is more that can be done to raise our voices, one of which is what Mr. Malcolm Seychell suggested. The government is doing nothing, because it is chosing to, not because it cant. If the EU is not willing to co-operate, it cannot be allowed to tie our hands.

No responsible government will let Malta become one whole immigrant centre. Indifference is illegal to the present and future generations.

S.Aquilina (on 24/8/08)
The only way to punish a politician by not voting next time. The Maltese people have to do something because the PN/MLP they are doing nothing
J.M. Chapelle (on 24/8/08)
@ M. Gatt

You are so very true. Being reversed into a corner is such a horrible situation, and meanwhile these poeples infest our island with smiling faces and try to IMPOSE their culture on us... but are we powerless to do anything?




Definately not.

The poeple make up a country, not its religion, its economic bodies or its minorities.
The poeple are the blood and flesh of a country.
The poeple.


Now, all you need is a leader to lead the poeple in the right direction...
John Schembri (on 24/8/08)
I was wrong in my last comment on this subject , it was not a boatload of 27 , it was a shipload of 108!
Can the commentators who are writing that the government should do something , explain to us what this 'something' is?
Joe Morana (on 24/8/08)
@ Ms Louise Vella: Your input on this issue is always welcome and respected, however it is sheer naivete` to assume that any agreement Italy enters into with our neighbour to the south will cover Malta as well. If anything, such an agreement will result in more illegal immigrants coming Malta's way. Traffickers keep well informed, believe me. As far as EU help is concerned - forget it! No EU country wants any part of this mess. Does the phrase "burden-sharing", or the name 'Frontex' ring any bells? It had to be the U.S., a country with its fair share of illegal immigrants,and whose economy has been teetering on the verge of recession for months, to render assistance in the true spirit of burden-sharing! At that time the Foreign Minister publicly stated that he did not think that the fact that the U.S. was helping out would encourage more illegal immigrants to come to Malta. 2,000 plus thus far this year, say another 2,000 in 2009, need I say more?

@ A. B-C: Any which way you care to phrase innuendo, we have always considered ourselves a civilised nation. We arrest and detain those who break our laws!
E. Camilleri (on 24/8/08)
Last time I crossed over to Sicily and landed in Catania via a comfy catamaran it seems that my colleagues and I looked in far worst shape than any of these daring "unfortunates". Fishy indeed !
D Fenech (on 24/8/08)
@ Andrew Borg Cardona
That is why we elect genius politicians ,who have genius layers like you to advise them how to find the solution.
What the majority, who by the way are not genius like you ,want is a solution!
For the good of genius' as well as the ignorant majority.
Ps. By the way ignorant people like me are worth a vote too. Remember??
Emma Xerri (on 24/8/08)
@Andrew Borg Cardona, but of course they have indeed researched all the treaties and know right up to the last cent what they are entitled to.

The so called 'Refugee" problem that Malta has been experiencing is not new to other countries who have been taking in refugees for a number of years. They know the laws and what welfare benefits they are entitled to before they arrive and demand them. They even send for their many wives to join them and get extra welfare for the babies they have each year too. Please, do not be so naive.

Malta cannot afford to adhere to the Refugee Treaty it signed in good faith years ago. I appeal to our elected government to rescind this immediately and make it know that Malta does NOT accept refugees of whatever colour. They will all be sent back. If you think that this cannot be done, please note that many respected countries have not signed international treaties such as those prohibiting the use of Land Mines, Kyoto, Convention on the Rights of the Child, just to name a few.

If a Treaty goes against the National Interest, then it should be scrapped.
James Sultana (on 24/8/08)
"louise vella: Among all the bad news, there is a little bit of good news, but don’t bet on it. Corriere (www.corriere.it, 23/08 at 22.51) reports that an agreement on illegal immigration between Italy and Libya is in the offing:
“Il ministro delle Riforme Umberto Bossi annuncia che a breve l'Italia chiudera' un accordo con la Libia in tema di immigrazione. "Penso che in questi giorni Berlusconi dovrebbe firmare un accordo con la Libia - ha dichiarato il leader della Lega - e, quindi, si chiudera' per sempre la vicenda degli immigrati provenienti da quel Paese".

Louise, to me this more of a BAD NEWS. Now the traffickers will have no choice other than bring them to Malta, because if they take them to Lampedusa they will be sent back and hence the buisness will stop as it will get a bad name !!

DO ALL THOSE WHO WRITE THAT THESE ARE DESPERATE PEOPLE LOOKING TO RUN AWAY FROM HARDSHIP HONESTLY BELEIVE THAT THE PEOPLE IN THIS PHOTO TRAVELLED ON A BOAT FROM LIBYA TO MALTA? THEY LOOKED SMARTLY DRESSED AS IF THEY TRAVELLED ON AN ORGANISED SHIP TO ME !!!
Edward de Bono (on 24/8/08)
Can anyone educate me as to what one illegal immigrant costs the tax payer, if he/she stays on the island for a total of 365 days. No agruments about the treaties Malta signed or the EU,
Just the answer of what one illegal immigrant costs. Medical bills ,Meals, clothes, electricty,detention time, salaries for staf, and so on. Realy I am very concerned as we all so be, as we are, but in the end it all boils down to how much more direct and indiredt taxes can we afford. We pay tax on on saleries and then we pay taxes in the by VAT and then we,,,,,,,,
M. Gatt (on 24/8/08)
The local authorities will never do anything because they know that the vast majority of the media and the Church are in favour of this illegal immigrant invasion. The local authorities know what power these two institutions have. So, we continue to hear about meetings in Libya and meetings in EU, etc. etc. but nothing will happen.

Those who dare to say a word against this invasion will be immediately labelled as racists. Unfortunately, we will just have to see this country become an island of Africa. The majority of the Maltese people, who are against this illegal invasion, can only watch their country being taken over by these foreign people.
M Scicluna (on 24/8/08)
Well done all you have something or other to say about the imigrants that come in boats. What about those who come in by plane, through customs, extend there stay, then apply for a refugee status, get a job on the side painting and masonary, also get national assistance as refugees, are protected uder the Human Rights Laws, opeing businesses, get housig assistance, and more, they have the same rights as you and me if not more, who have been flogging oursleves for years paying taxes and sweet all. for who. Come to Bugibba and St Paul's Bay and see for yourselves. One guy already orgnised a flat where they gather four times a day. Belive it or not there is a company director involved with these people, and they know where to get help. This is not Raceisim we have a Country that are going to loose in the coming future, they have expressed this.
Malcolm Seychell (on 24/8/08)
Something can be done.

Vote against every law proposed by the EU.

Like this the EU stops until we are given the help we need.

Meetings and more meetings are useless
a.cassar (on 24/8/08)
@ Andrew borg Cardona
civilized men don't commit suicide!
A Attard (on 24/8/08)
For once i'm doing something ILLEGAL.
I'm adopting these immigrants with the TAX I pay!!!!!!
Justin Zammit Fiorentino (on 24/8/08)
prosit to Joseph Caruana.....

Finally someone who has summarized what happened...needs to be done and what is the real situation...frankly speaking. Xarabank style accusations in favour or in negative light towards such immigrants are useless.

Right now the problem can be alleviated through co-operation between the Libyan government and the EU....and more help by the EU to spread the burden of illegal migrants would help. I think the latter is the only temporary solution right now. Far right or far left rethoric, and I add as well Catholic rhetoric, do not matter much.
J.M. Chapelle (on 24/8/08)
Dear Mark,

Give up your savings, your life and get trafficked to the doorstep of Europe. You end up in a detention centre and then moved to an open centre. It is a leap of faith into a better world, and tbh i would do the same.

Now, take your kids/wife/girlfriend/(insert loved one here) for a walk outside the open centres in marsa, or go for a walk late at night along the long road in Hal Far, and then tell me that in a few years time things won't be all 'jungle-like'.

Of course 'Mogadishu' and 'jungle-like' is a bit extreme, but that is the use of hyperbole, i.e. to really accent the finer parts of the problem. ** And we are in the early stages of the problem **

Now I think you are wise enough to know that it is not a world you would want your children in, unless you yourself are a sympathiser or in the 'all aboard' brigade, but believe me, you *really do* want your children to grow up around like me.

Iddahaqnix! Ciao!
John Debattista (on 24/8/08)

WE ARE FEED UP Shame on you PN / MLP its about time you do something not Bla Bla as allways.
Mark Bugeja (on 24/8/08)
We are facing a very major problem. The country cannot overtake all these illegal immigrants. Wake up Dr Gonzi|!!
Graham Crocker (on 24/8/08)
You know what we Maltese really need? A Crack down on Illegal Immigration.

Human loving, UN loving and leftism aside.
0.02% of the Maltese population came illegally today.

0.02% of a population for example is like 140,000 Illegal immigrants going to London (pop 7mil) in one day.
D Fenech (on 24/8/08)

"are I-L-L-E-G-A-L and breach a bunch of international conventions to which Malta is signatory." Joseph Caruana.

Ok then the mistake was to become signatory!!!!!!!

What do we do next is the question.

emmanuel buttigieg (on 24/8/08)
Thank God we have more workers for the quarries, the building industry, the Refuse collection and separation, whitewashers, etc, etc.

This way more Maltese small business people (or sharks) get richer quicker.
Maria Borg Micallef (on 24/8/08)
I know that it is the silly season, but how come the media keep on persisting writing about these arrivals. And please these people are neither illegal nor irregular, they just come here and stay put here at my expenses. And then I as a member of the EU cannot go to the UK as long they say so, more worse than that the plane itself cannot take off unless approval is given by the UK. And then they say we are all equal in the EU. And these people come here everyday take our money then when someone like me say what he wants to say it is called racist and censored by the media because it has come a cliche' to be pro africans but no one house them in their hhome on their own expense.
t. borg (on 24/8/08)
There is only one solution and nobody wants to hear me, nobody. Malta should stop giving fingerprints to eurodac like the Italians and many other eu member states. We are cowards and lickers. Gonzi is not the right person for this. No help from eu no fingerprints. No fingerprints all illegal immigrants go to eu and no one can send them back to Malta.
Denis Catania (on 24/8/08)
ABC I would first start by arresting criminally, not as asylum seekers, anyone who puts the life of children in danger. Matter of fact any on e who is on that boat with a child. This would deter this from happening in the future. Since we have no room at our detention center, we should start asking volunteers such as you, to take in such people at their own expense.
Patrick Bellia (on 24/8/08)
They come here crammed on dinghys, they bring with them diseases, and within days you will see them with mobile phones wearing clothes of several trade marks and we the maltese citizen pay taxes, pay the surcharge etc for these people who are inavding our country. Malta has a history to act when it is too late, and this is one of those reasons, possibly no one is nothing that are going to outnumber us? the last thing why dont give them an appatrment in potomaso so when they come here they will have also a residence with the view? WAKE UP BEFORE IT WILL BE TOO LATE BECAUSE ITS NOT VERY FAR
Andrew Camilleri (on 24/8/08)
When illegal immigrants arrive on our shores they are taken to the open centres. There they wait to be interviewed in order to find whether they qualify for a humanitarian or refugee status or else have to go back home. The problem is that this team of interviewers is only made up of 10people maximum so a huge backload is being created. What is needed is more interviewers to speed up the process of refugee granting or repatriation.
Andrew Borg-Cardona (on 24/8/08)
D Fenech - no, I don't have a solution, I never said I did, but you certainly don't either. "Opt out of any Refugee Treaties"? And then what? Do you think the boat-people have researched which countries are parties to international treaties?

You're right, you're not a genius.
guze xerri (on 24/8/08)
When the patient is in grave danger of dying, drastic measures are taken.

Malta is such patient now.

Malta should pull out of the EU so this illegal invasion can be dealt with on our own terms and very soon.
Mark Gatt (on 24/8/08)
When are we going to realise that enough is enough!!! What are our politicians doing? Is this what our ancestors fought for? Is it already late or only time will tell. When was the last time you visited Marsa and soon enough in the surrounding areas, get ready for the ghettos...
J. Tonna (on 24/8/08)
Thanks to the EU I am 2 inches taller since we joined it. They are all the time promising help (pulling our left leg), then when we tell them that we cannot wait any longer they offer us some bread crumbs (pulling our right leg). Long live the EU!!
Kenneth Galea (on 24/8/08)
I am becoming more and more alarmed reading about this persistent illegal immigrants coming to our shores. Frontex is a farce, the EU is a traitor. Speaking about burden sharing is totally out of order. How can anyone expect to take on illegal immigrant to ease the pressure off Malta??? And please minister Carm do us a favour, stop talking about the burden sharing because you will only encourage 'would be illegals' to flock to our island. Shame on Dr Gonzi and the immigration minister. I want Carm to come up with a strategic solution and tell us when and how these illegals are going to be deported. Don't enrage us further with the words 'Frontex' and EU or 'burden sharing'. We want to hear the words 'repatriation process' and deportations. When are these going to commence Carm??
A.Agius (on 24/8/08)
Noting the worsening of the situation in these past weeks I can't resist to suggest the re issue of a once very popular tune, "Return To Sender". I am sure it will be sold out in a very short time.
Joseph Caruana (on 24/8/08)
@ Malcolm Seychell & A Camilleri

The Interior Minister is doing just what he should do in this case... keep all the arrivals in detention until they are granted humanitarian protection or refugee status. I don't know how many times I have to spell out you that all the suggestions being put across here on how to deal with the problem such as "giving them supplies to proceed with their voyage north", "send them back", "tow them outside our territorial waters" are I-L-L-E-G-A-L and breach a bunch of international conventions to which Malta is signatory.

In these limited circumstances Government can only keep those that are granted neither humanitarian protection or refugee status under lock and key for 18 months until they choose to go back home or are forcefully repatriated.

Without co-operation from Libya and the EU, there is nothing else that can be done. Coming up with ludicrous suggestions or trying to pin the blame on someone won't help either.
Andrew Borg-Cardona (on 24/8/08)
Giles Zammit - correction: shame on those who betray this country's credentials as a civilised place.
Charles Sammut (on 24/8/08)
Let me pose a hypothetical question to those of the "take them all in" brigade.

You and your family are blissfully sailing on your 13 foot boat when the Titanic sails by with 2229 people on board and hits the proverbial iceberg. Survivors start swimming desperately in the direction of your boat and, as obliged by your Christian persuasion and international obligations, you start taking them on board.

Need I go on?
Sandro Zahra (on 24/8/08)
We cannot just throw them back in the water, but if we make a simple mathematical calculation one will be able to calculate the situation in Malta in 20-30 years!
Mark Aloisio (on 24/8/08)
J M Chapelle: you don't want your kids "to grow up in Mogadishu". I don't want my kids to grow up around people like you who desperately need to get a life.
d bugeja (on 24/8/08)
dr Gonzi

you and your government are betraying us the maltese people. we want action and you are being a dissappointement to us Maltese.
D Fenech (on 24/8/08)
@ "genii" Andrew Borg cardona
Emma Xerri gave you a suggestion
"Malta should change its Refugee Laws and opt out of any Refugee Treaties - Malta's very existance is at stake here! "
Arrogance from you is not a solution either!
is anybody telling you to shoot anybody?
Or is it because you yourself do not have a solution?
The average Maltese person is not a genius, true, but you do not need to be a genius to read the obvious!
apgrech (on 24/8/08)
The illegals' saviour just spoke. Andrew, I'd give them food and water and send them back where they came from.
Charity yes - allowing them to use us, no.

Jeremy, then why not grant their wish and send them up to Italy or wherever they want to go.
J.M. Chapelle (on 24/8/08)
I am maltese because i come from Malta. Etheopians come from Etheopia, Somalis from Somalia... everything has a place in this world.

I want my children to grow up in a Maltese country, not Mogadishu.

And one more thing... where do the suggestions we come up with go? where do we send them? who do we tell? who is listening?
Giles Zammit (on 24/8/08)
To whom on this island is still pro-immigration: there is a temporary solution, live up to your own colourful words and start sheltering them at your own house, at your own expense.

Hail those who respect the names of our fore fathers and mothers who suffered famine and death but still didn't leave this island fall into our enemies' hands! Shame on you who betray our island's heroes.
Mark Aloisio (on 24/8/08)
Andrew Borg-Cardona: your point is well-taken. As I wrote yesterday, these people harping on about our "inept politicians" and their "betrayal of the nation" need a reality check. Perhaps these geniuses can come up with a solution and even pass it on to the governments of Italy, Spain, the UK, and even the US who are all facing a similar problem.
Malcolm Seychell (on 24/8/08)
A proper minister who takes decisions should be made when it comes to this issue.

Minister Mifsud Bonnici has showed he has absolutely no control of the issue.

These illegal immigrants are coming straight from Libya and not Africa. They should be prosecuted and send back home.



Franco Farrugia (on 24/8/08)
@ Mr Charles J Buttigieg - Is there sarcasm in your comment? What do you expect AFM to do accept to obey the orders of the Government? If you are in some way critcising AFM, I think such crit is misdirected!
Joe Buttigieg (on 24/8/08)
Now you are all complaining ? I bet you all voted to be in the EU. You can complain until you're blue in the face.You reap what you sow. The Maltese government does not have a say about this .What the EU says goes. They got us by the short and curles.
B.Borg (on 24/8/08)
Dear Jeremy Lanfranco, please why you persist to call them IRREGULAR immigrants, when these reach our shores every day; more REGULAR then this!!!
Andrew Borg-Cardona (on 24/8/08)
Could all the genii who want the Government to "do something" please make suggestions as to what? Racists whose solution involves letting them drown or shooting them on the beaches need not respond.

This is not to say that there shouldn't be efficient, humane and considerate repatriation for people not in danger. Nor is it to be taken that the Government shouldn't put pressure onto our European colleagues to take their fair share of the burden.

In the meantime, though, we will continue to behave in a civilised manner towards other human beings.
Jeremy Lanfranco (on 24/8/08)
We all know where these irregular immigrants wish to end up. Surely not Malta. Since the European Union is not being productive in defending the European coast, how about welcoming these individuals with a Maltese Passport. In a couple of months there will not be any of them left in Malta!!!!!!
C. Camilleri (on 24/8/08)
'On Their Way' was said in part of your News update.

Good let us greet them on the Quay with Maltese folklore, and flowers.

Send them back the way they came, enough is enough. And for the reason of these ILLEGAL immigrants, I say, 'roll on winter and rough seas'!
Silvan Mugliett (on 24/8/08)
Uff! I'm fed up with this news! These immigrants should be questioned and made to reveal information about the racket behind all this. Malta as we know is a sinking boat.
F bonello (on 24/8/08)
Can the Government tell us when it is going to take any action? Yes we have money for everything, but not ot increase our pension. The gov. asks only sacrifices from us while they spend money left, right and centre. Do they care about us, poor pensioners? Definetly NO!!
A Camilleri (on 24/8/08)
Drs Gonzi and Mifsud Bonnici have a lot of explaining to do about this unsustainable situation. It is a shame how no official report is given to us Maltese citizens regarding how the Government is tackling the problem which is gradually developing into a very serious situation for Malta.

I feel that we citizens are being completely ignored simply to appease some agreement with the EU or the United Nations. It is as though we totally depend on these institutions to establish a policy for our country.

I say the the responsibility rests totally on Dr Gonzi's shoulders. I suggest that Dr Gonzi gets down to real business and resolve his home problems without having to rely or ask permission to other countries.
Emma Xerri (on 24/8/08)
When these "immigrants" sail in, authorities should check to see that they are all well, feed them, then put them on a ship or plane and send them right back. You know where they are coming from and why. Anything less than this would be irresponsible and against the Human Rights of the Maltese, who only have these islands to call home.

They have the continent of Africa, and some come from resource rich countries. The EU should be there to help these countries get their act together so that they stay there, and not granting assylum. I am sure it is not a picnic for them to come on these boats and that if things were different, they too would rather stay home and be with their own.

I recall that when EU accessions negotiations were underway, the government had stressed and made special concessions so that Malta, because of its small size, would not be innundated with foreigners. I believe they thought that it would be other Europeans who would flood in. Malta should change its Refugee Laws and opt out of any Refugee Treaties - Malta's very existance is at stake here!



Johann Mifsud (on 24/8/08)
This summer was the worst summer in illegal immigration, when are you going to wake up Mr Minister?

I'm not racist but I'm fed up of this situation. In a couple of years it will be the African island in the middle of the med. instead of Malta the tiny island.

Shame on you and shame on the MEP's because they are our voice in Europe and they are there doing nothing.
George J.Marshall (on 24/8/08)
About illegal imegrants

Of course, everybody supports those people who have left their lands and
their homes because of violence, but we don't want it at the expense of
giving up our land or changing the demographics of our land."
Something must be done, to send back all illegal immigrants
William Attard McCarthy (on 24/8/08)
The Maltese Govt must look deeper into this....it seems that we have some futuristic sci-fi energy-thwarting device hidden away somewhere on these islands...a device capable of stalling boat engines when they're in the vicinity of our shores.

Jokes apart....the situation is fast becoming critical, and I'm sure Cikku l-Poplu is not far away from the edge of its tethers...

louise vella (on 24/8/08)
Among all the bad news, there is a little bit of good news, but don’t bet on it. Corriere (www.corriere.it, 23/08 at 22.51) reports that an agreement on illegal immigration between Italy and Libya is in the offing:
“Il ministro delle Riforme Umberto Bossi annuncia che a breve l'Italia chiudera' un accordo con la Libia in tema di immigrazione. "Penso che in questi giorni Berlusconi dovrebbe firmare un accordo con la Libia - ha dichiarato il leader della Lega - e, quindi, si chiudera' per sempre la vicenda degli immigrati provenienti da quel Paese".
A similar agreement was announced last December, but the influx has not stopped – indeed it accelerated. Let’s hope this one is for real and will also cover Malta. We are suffering from an Italian problem. Most of the illegal immigrants come from Somalia, Eritrea and Ethiopia, formerly parts of the short-lived Italian empire. They transit through Libya, which was also an Italian dependency. They want to go to Italy, the rich country they know best. Malta just happens to be on the way. Still the Maltese government has been supine or worse.
Charles J Buttigieg (on 24/8/08)
Welcome to Mata. We will take good care of you.AFM OUGHT TO BE CONGRATULATED.
Joseph Agius (on 24/8/08)
welcome to Malta!....and the criminals keep on laughing at us and investing their money to buy more boats and dingys!
a.agius (on 24/8/08)
When is the government doing something? When we decide to take law by our hands?. We Maltese are feed up of all this.... SHAME ON YOU!!!!

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