Inflation, immigration top people's concerns

Graham Crocker

Sep 20th 2008, 18:59

I'm against illegal immigration, but the argument is never ending, both sides of the arguments are too good to win each other, so what we get is a nation divided and nation conquered (by ignorance).

guze xerri

Aug 21st 2008, 22:33

@ A. Vella,
Re: Illegal immigrants,
Yes it is a problem created by globalists and the NWO elite,
but we do not have sit here and take it?

calling people who are true patriots and nationalists, racists and nazi is very wrong on your part.

the time will come when all that political correctness indoctrination, which by the way comes from the same globalists, will be beaten out of you.

A.Vella

Aug 21st 2008, 17:49

@ C.Ebejer

I'd rather have all my taxes going to illegal immigrants than 1 euro cent going towards helping out someone like you. Shame on you and people of your sort. It is an international problem created by gloabilisation, Malta is suffering its consequences more than countries, but does that mean that we should leave them starving? What exactly are you saying? Holding a referendum of whether we want them? Then what?

C.Ebejer you are a racist at best, and a nazist at worst, miltrary type education is the only hope for people of your ilk.

C. Ebejer

Aug 21st 2008, 17:14

@ e. bonnici. Part of the inflation is due to the ILLEGAL immigrants. Who do you think is going to pay for their SURCHARGE if not us, the law abiding Maltese citizens that work and pay taxes.
And if we end up on the dole we get a fraction of what these illegals are getting without their having paid anything. Did our Maltese government ever give us access to use a mobile free in a community like he gives them. does any unemployed maltese person get 3 square meals a day.
And why not hold a referendum of whether we want them? then it will be a true picture of whether the majority want them or not. We held a referendum for the EU. Why not for these illegals?

J.Spiteri

Aug 21st 2008, 17:00

Part 2
Surveys can be "doctored" to suit whoever, about immigration, we lived in UK for a long time and can tell you will be sorry in a few years time, just visit the UK and speak to the local people and see for yourself to ratify what I mean.

J Micallef

Aug 21st 2008, 15:58

Graham Crocker - get lost!

e bonnici

Aug 21st 2008, 15:56

Amazing, almost all comments are about immigrants; don’t you think inflation is more serious problem?

J.M. Chapelle

Aug 21st 2008, 15:35

And our govt. remains silent on the immigration issue. Hello? Doesn't a government listen to its people?




Hello?

Kevin Borg

Aug 21st 2008, 14:19

@ Graham Crocker

Part 2

I think that if we seriously think of intergating these people we should not think of them as economic factors but holistically try to create a system that will seriously allow them to integrate and be respected for what they really are, including their native religon and tradition. This the state is surely not doing.

If they don't the problems will be faced by our children. An immigrant who is not well integrated in society will be a serios problem in the future, especially if he has children that are being rejected by society. A fine example is France. The riots we saw two years ago in Paris should have been a wake up call for all of us. Those riots were the result of immigrants who have not been properly integrated in society.

I hope that my few thoughts will help people like you see these migrants not only as economic charts but as people who need to be integrated. If they do not integrate properly, then I agree with those who say they should be sent back from were they came from. It would be better for them and for us.

Kevin Borg

Aug 21st 2008, 14:08

@ Graham Crocker

Part 1

Well I would waist two hours arguing with you Mr. Crocker. You seem to be a firm believer that immigration is healthy for the economy. I hope you are not some contractor employing these immigrants and becoming, as you said in your post, "a richer society"

However I do not agree with those that you quoted "want to kill them". I can asure you that the majority of Maltese who are fed up with boats unloading these people on our shores will not even think of killing them. The proof of what I am saying is in the actions of the country as a whole.

What we expect is the goverment to take political action and through diplomacy ease the burden on our economy, that is feeling the burden of all these people. Beside the economy one has to take into acount that Malta is already densely populated as it is, let alone with this uncontrolled influx. And beside the economy you are leaving out the integration issues.

It is difficult for us, let alone for the immigarants to integrate. The basis of our culture are very different.

Kevin Borg

Aug 21st 2008, 13:53

A very interesting survey, especially the last part regarding the EU membership. It shows that we managed to lose a lot of time and energy trying to convience half the population that EU membership was good for the country, when more than half today are convinced it was a good decision to become members.

Well done to Malta and those creative arguing bunch who came up with the partnership idea and managed to stir the country around the pot for all those years, achieved nothing. They lost all those years trying to convience us that something that worked very well form the 1950's and served all member states very well was not good for Malta.

What a vision!

It was like convincing a bird that wings are not needed to fly and all you need are two bricks tied up to your feet. Unfortenetly half the country believed the absurd theory. And what is more absurd is that people who tried to convience us that EU was not good for us are today EU parliamenterians and fully fledged all for Europe.

What a foresight they had! A bat flying in the night sky can even see further than they had.

A.Vassallo

Aug 21st 2008, 13:45

@ J. Spiteri

I cannot imagine why J. Spiteri is so sceptic about the results of the survey conducted by Eurostat. Perhaps he is one of the old school, and perhaps he is one of those Eurosceptics still running around.

Eurostat surveys are not “tal-habba gozz”. They are used by the governments of all EU countries to measure their progress. Let us grow up J.Spiteri.

P Debono

Aug 21st 2008, 13:39

29% against immigration?! Why not mention the fact that 99% of the Maltese are against ILLEGAL immigration, which is by far the largest share of immigration imposed on us?

A.Vella

Aug 21st 2008, 13:37

Amen to that Graham.

As to J.Spiteri, given your confidence in your intellectual, you should really go to Brussels and give them a lesson or two on how to do proper surveys. Who knows maybe you will come out with new statistical and math theories that ridicule the current international ones, and you will make us all proud for winning the first Nobel price.

Graham Crocker

Aug 21st 2008, 13:17

@J.Spiteri
This shows you, that you don't know a lot of people or that people just tell you what you want to hear to avoid arguments.

I've met many people who want them so the economy 'improves' & the society becomes richer, and people who want to kill them, so they don't make us bankrupt and don't ruin society with their 'Scary' culture.

People are so different, maybe if you took a step out of your home town you'd realise it.
Its a neverending and stupid argument to bring up and not many are going to bother wasting 2 hours of their life arguing with you.

J.Spiteri

Aug 21st 2008, 12:46

I like to know were they picked the 500 people from, because all the people I speak to, are mainly totally against this illegal immigration. Come on, if you are going to do a fair survey do it properly and across all the spectrum of levels of the public !!!! Don't try to kid a kidder