Updated: Prison wardens detained at police HQ after assault charge

Philip Paris

Aug 18th 2008, 23:27

@Robert Callus
So far all I see is crime getting worse. We need to change our attitudes with criminals.
I am not saying beat them in jail everyday, but, if some force is needed to stop a thug from escaping, selling drugs to kids, or robbing the blind, then be it.
I live half the year in Toronto, criminals get away with everything from robbery to shootings.
Because of there "rights" to a speedy trail, there is so much crime that not all can be meet.
They end up being released only to re-offend in a worse way knowing they can beat the system because of there "rights". So give the criminals rights and you end up with more crime, more criminals and innocent victims suffering.
The Maltese justice system needs to learn from the problems of other countries before it turns into a North American city.
The good of the people need to out way the rights of the criminals.

A. SCIBERRAS

Aug 18th 2008, 22:46

no wonder the drug dealer had that smile when he was brought to court. He knew he could take the system by its knees.

D Fenech

Aug 18th 2008, 04:29

@ Robert Callus
No i do not think that the comment inquiring why this drug dealer had to visit his mother in a hotel and not have his mother visit him in prison is frivioulous!
It is frivioulous to take him to a hotel for that matter ,surely!
As for the alleged beatings, if they took place they are to be condemned. That goes without saying!
What we are asking is- On which criteria was it decided to have a drug dealer go to a HOTEL to visit his mother?

Chris G.

Aug 17th 2008, 22:26

I vote for giving the guards a gold medal (seeing it's the Olympics) for ridding us of such people...what I would like to know is what you commenting here would have done if the man had passed on drugs to your kids?

WHAT would you have done? WHAT would you have done? Would you have written as conscientiously as you have done? Would you allow your children to waste away and let justice run its course? I think not!

I live in Joann Gardens (Tarxien), where the ravages of drugs on KIDS is highly and freely evident..what heartache! how many families shocked?!

Life is hard and cruel...we don't need to make it easier on druggies! Visit his mother!

Debono, Meli, Cuschieri and Falzon....your next beer is on me!

Robert Callus

Aug 17th 2008, 21:06

@Philip Paris
So you are implying that two wrongs make a right? Has humanity vanished into thin air?
If the person in question tried to escape he should be taken to court and have his sentence invreased. That is democracy
What you are saying is that a guard, officer or anyone in authority can take the law by his hands and do what he wants

PHILIP PACE

Aug 17th 2008, 20:45

Welcome to the circus.
To Mr.Franco Farrugia.
You felt that my comments were superfluous?
So according to you a drug PUSHER deserves to be called MR when he is serving time?
As you mentioned the topic of children what if a drug dealer approaches your children and leads them to the most despicable path of total devastation on drug dependency?
Do you still call him MR.DEALER?
Thought that you knew better but I was wrong.
Mr.Banana

dbugeja

Aug 17th 2008, 19:41

Prisoner visting hismother in a Hotel? I think it should be the other way round. Mother visiting son in prison. What is this? The circus has come to town.

Philip Paris

Aug 17th 2008, 16:02

@Franco Farrugia
Do you think criminals treat there victims with dignity?
The more dignity and rights we give criminals, they will end up living a better life in prison then most lower income families.
As human beings we need to start using our common sense to protect the moral fiber of this planet.
Also, God has nothing to do with this. If he did, we would not have this problem with criminals.

Franco Farrugia

Aug 17th 2008, 11:48

@ Philip Pace - Indeedl, your comment is superfluous. A detainee or an inmate will remain a human being, and still needs his dignity even if he forfeited it for a while.
You speak like that because you have none of your children in there. Otherwise, I am sure you would join a different chorus.
'There go but I without the grace of God'.

Robert Callus

Aug 17th 2008, 10:12

Franco Farrugia's comments make sense. The other two are frivioulous and of the point. The issue is not whether we should call him Mr or where he visits his mother. The guards have no right to beat people that way. Violence is only accepted if the person is using force. This happened in the prison while the prisoner was restrained, this completely unacceptable.
Especially at times where abuse by people who should control it is rampant (or coming out to light)

D Fenech

Aug 17th 2008, 07:17

What i cannot understand is " visiting his mother in a hotel!"
Could not his mother have visited him in prison? and all this would have been avoided?
As for the wardens, Franco farrugia has made very valid points which i hope will be heeded by those in authority.

philip pace

Aug 16th 2008, 21:09

Welcome to the circus,
Since when do you call a drug dealer who has been found guilty with the title of MR.?
Can you explain?
You could call him the prisoner, the convicted and all the typical names in the world but you never call a drug dealer, an angel of death, an unmerceriful despicable and money profiteering person who has been caught and sentence to serve jail a MR.

Is this a new way of reporting?

Mr.Banana

Franco Farrugia

Aug 16th 2008, 19:23

You cannot have prison wardens at the age of 27!!!!!!!!! Where is experience? Does experience only lie in the muscles?
How do we pick and choose prospective law-enforcers such as police officers, wardens, prison wardens, etc ....?
What training is being given to these people??
By training, I mean: initial training, psychological training, continuing training, periodic training, etc...
What is the yearly budget dedicated to ongoing formation and training??? If it is not good enough, then, the State has a responsibility in this matter.

We need good people in these forces - and you get them by choosing correctly and by giving them their dues!!!!! Good salaries and good resources! And the best resources is not pistols and weapons but training!!!!!!