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Updated: Policemen, assaulted, spat at, in night of incidents

(adds arraignment)

A Briton was slightly injured when he was hit by another Briton using a pointed instrument in a bar at St Paul’s Bay last night, the police said.

The injured man, 38, was the barman. He was injured by a 17-year-old at about 1.30 a.m. The barman is being treated at Mater Dei Hospital.

The boy was arraigned in court this afternoon and given an 18 month jail term suspended for four years after admitting to threating the bar owner and trying to stab him.

In other incidents last night, the police said that at about 12.30 a.m. they were called to an incident at St George’s Road, St Julians, where a 26-year-old man from the Ivory Coast was arguing with some club bouncers.

When the police intervened the man appeared to lose control and started shouting obscenities and tried to attack the police. He was promptly arrested.

Shortly after, a 25-year-old man from Eritrea was slightly injured in a fight with another Eritrean in the same street. Broken bottles were used in the fight. The injured man was treated at a health centre. The two live in Birkirkara and in the tent centre for migrants at Hal Far.

In yet another incident, near Marsa open centre for migrants, the police intervened when a Somali man who appeared drunk created a disturbance.

However when police officers tried to calm the situation, three other migrants tried to assault the policemen. The clothes worn by two of the migrants were blood stained, but when the police offered to call an ambulance, the migrants refused and instead threatened the officers. One of the men climbed on top of the police car and started spitting at the policemen.

The migrants were arrested and arraigned in court this afternoon.

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Corinne Vella (on 20/7/08)
Malcolm Seychell: You are right. We do not share any interests. You are content to be the secretary general of a political 'party' with less than desirable 'policies', a grandiose idea of its own importance. I am interested in no such thing.

"If the criminal was a Maltese I would have said the same things." That's not quite what you did when a non-Maltese person was beaten up in front of eye witnesses, handcuffed, arrested and then accused in court of beating up policemen, is it?
Joseph George Portelli (on 2/7/08)
The significant problems faced in Malta will not be solved through the people with the perception that exist and that allowed the problems to emerge.

Malta was never ever in the hands of Maltese. Maltes never existed. In the last 400 years or, we have formed a culture that has been a liitle recognised. Our language is a salad of mainly old arabic and other semitic words. Our religion is anything but God, but we claim Chrisianity. Our Balconies are spanish, our breakfasts are English as is our Edu and Law systems. We fancy ouselves as romantics as the Italian, as Proud in cooking as if we were really French, as stubborn and humourless when dealing in Finances as the Swiss and illustrious when we build our house as if we were German engineers. That is being Maltese today. Pity about the true honest realistic ancestors that survived on this sweet land for the last 30,000 years who only ate what they needed and watered only what required water - they made peace with all the Strong Invaders and adhored their Gods to preverse the land for us. We have weak Police & treat othres better than our children.
Malcolm Seychell (on 1/7/08)
@ Corinne Vella

Dear Miss Vella you have every right to voice your opinion, but I have every right to give mine.

Surely your interests are not mine.

I do not defend any criminals including police. But in this case the immigrant assaulted the police so the police had every right to defend themselves in the best possible way.

If the criminal was a Maltese I would have said the same things.










Malcolm Seychell (on 1/7/08)
@ Lucy Pace Gouder And what is the proportional percentage of illegal immigrants to the whole Maltese population? What is the prison percentage of these foreigners to the total prison inmates? What is the proportion of crimes commited by the illegl immigrants to the total crime figures? Of course nobody is saying that all illegal immigrants are criminals, but figures are figures
Corinne Vella (on 1/7/08)
Malcolm Seychell: Since you seem to be unable to grasp the basic principle behind giving testimony, let me explain it to you in simple words. A witness' role is not to take sides but to give an account of what s/he saw and heard. People are obliged to give their testimony if called on to do so. Refusing is not an option. And it may surprise you to know that the police force itself seeks witnesses' testimony against the less than desirable behaviour of some of its members.
Corinne Vella (on 1/7/08)
Malcolm Seychell: "
I cannot understand how certain people hate their country and their people so much."
Bearing witness has nothing to do with choosing sides between the parties to a dispute, and everything to do with a belief in a matter of principle. You, I would venture, hate your country far more than the people you criticize. Those you criticize as 'traitors' are acting in accordance with a belief in civil liberties, a separation of powers, and the value of human rights regardless of citizenship, race, creed or colour. You, on the other hand, would prefer those liberties to be suppressed. They would like to live in a country where human rights are respected. You, it appears, prefer to live in a country where those rights are denied. Ironically, you do not realise that that could mean you'd be unable to make nonsensical and insulting statements as regularly and as publicly as you do. Since you are the secretary general of Azzjoni Nazzjonali, we should thank you for continually flagging up that party as a basket case that shouldn't be trusted.
Claire Farrugia (on 1/7/08)
@Lucy Pace Gouder
thanks for your comment, I was heavily criticized as not supporting my fellow people and not being down to earth, just because I stated my opinion. But I agree with you fully, I have nothing against my fellow countrymen and am proud to be Maltese but some racist attitudes which have come up in many comments really get on my nerves. some people also stated that because i live abroad i have no idea what is going on in Malta, but i come to Malta as often as i can, this year I was there for two months and just because i live abroad shoudl i shut my mouth and not say anything or what???
Lucy Pace gouder (on 1/7/08)
Malcolm Seychell. No. We do not hate our country or people. We hate racists and xenophobes and opportunists. There is a big difference believe me. It's easy to point a finger when a foreigner commits a crime. But please remember that most of the crimes are done by Maltese nationals.
F. Camilleri (on 30/6/08)
@David Buttigieg David, you keyed in: 'If these people did not have a different skin colour no comments would have been made! '. This is a sweeping statement on your part.; jumping to unfounded conclusions re my comments. The reality that people entering our country ILLEGALLY is the real issue. I am against anybody breaking the law of our land NO MATTER WHO. Your sentence 'People like you make me feel ashamed of being Maltese'! worries and hurts me; if this was your aim, you were 100% successful. I can assure you that I do not want to be the cause of any compatriot declaring that he/she is ashamed of being MALTESE. My comments were always aimed at defending OUR country even at the cost of making me unpopular. You should NEVER feel ashamed of being Maltese; even IF YOU FEEL that some of your compatriots (any other or me) committed mistakes or reason differently from you. I am very sensitive to comments trying to degrade my country in any way
Lorna Mifsud (on 30/6/08)
Frankly, I can't see what the fuss is all about in the comments to this article: all and sundry created disturbance. From Britons to Eritreans to Somalis. REally and truly, it's a matter of people clashing and not necessarily linked to their nationality.

In other articles, you see that a policeman tried to strangle his wife, a woman was accused of defiling a 16-year old...these are Maltese, of course. Nationality has got nothing to do with it.

Of course, the more different cultures, the more inter-racial cultures there may be, but not because these people are not Maltese!

Noel Cutajar (on 30/6/08)
Whether we are Europeans or not I do not care...I am Maltese and nothing else matters. If Europeans do not consider us being at par with them, so be it...Our history has made us the people we are but now we are a colony again by the Kingdom of the Brussel Sprouts...whether we like it or no we have become the Detention Centre for Europe.
A. Tabone (on 30/6/08)
These problems exist because 91% of the people eligible to vote, voted for governments which in their electoral campaign saw illegal immigration so important that they did not even mention it.

I hope that all you complaining here are not part of those 91%.
David Buttigieg (on 30/6/08)


Let me guess, you all think Lowell has a point right? I noticed that nobody commented on the case involving Britons!

Violent obnoxious people exist in every culture INCLUDING African and Maltese, need we go into the vile crimes, even against children committed by many Maltese? Do you consider yourselves rapists and child abusers because our jail has both and of Maltese nationality.

@F Camilleri,

People like you make me feel ashamed of being Maltese!
If these people did not have a different skin colour no comments would have been made! How I wish people like you, dear F Camilleri had to ever live next to a bigot in Europe! Rest assured you would have been subject to racial abuse of the first order as most Europeans do not consider US Europeans due to the complete mixture of Arab, Jewish and other semitic blood in us! Most don't care of course but then most aren't bigots!

How much do you bet F Camilleri will come ot screaming "Ma tarax"
Clive Aquilina Spagnol (on 30/6/08)
...and yet some of us claim that we do not have problems with these illegal immigrants...having our policemen, who are entrusted by law to uphold law and order, spat at is disgusting to say the least...no wonder though because these illegal immigrants do come out of disgusting jungle countries....

@ Jean Pierre....only one case reported involved a Briton...all the rest involved illegal immigrants....draw your own logical conclusions mate...
malcolm tortell (on 30/6/08)
All those of you harping on about "truth" are invited to read the letter in The Times of June 30th entitled "Savage assault on bus passenger". The title itself is self-explanatory!
Malcolm Seychell (on 30/6/08)
These accidents will be the order of the day.

Obviously the traitors will enjoy it, since it will be their baby

They will probably get even more EU funds to promote the integration programs that never worked in Europe

Obviously there are already some witnesses who are going to testify against police officers and in favour of the immigrant who already said that he assaulted the police officers.

I cannot understand how certain people hate their country and their people so much.


Jean Pierre Aquilina (on 30/6/08)
@Claire Farrugia

Interesting...you complain about the incident in which the illegal immigrant was involved, but not that which Britons were involved.

Your view that the article incites racism is purely your imagination, as is with many of those who claim that Maltese are racist. Facts are facts, truths are truths.
Noel Cutajar (on 30/6/08)
Can anyone from any NGO's forward any facts that the cases that they have in front of them are genuine? From my experience, there was never any evidence to prove their stories to be right. Some of these 'illegal emigrants' have been working in Libya for a number of years before deciding to join the EU (sic!!). There were cases who presented diplomas and degrees from Libyan Universities...how's that? Though as to violence on the police, there is no colour but it does make a sensation to have such a news...it tends to sell more and attracts more reader. The result can be obvious by the various comments being made.
Marcelle Cini (on 29/6/08)
@Claire Farrugia this is a news item stating facts and if the truth offends you that is unfortunate.But most of us here in Malta are down to earth, and we WANT to know what is happening because we refuse to bury our heads in the sand . We are seeing a situation that may get out of control and it is our right to be informed and not yours to dictate to us not to be given that right .
F. Camilleri (on 29/6/08)
@ Marlene Vella

First, gets the facts right before mud slinging your own mother country.

Illegal immigrants were not ‘left hanging on a tuna pen for days’ as you SHAMELESSLY key in.
The AFM went to ‘rescue’ these ILLEGAL immigrants as soon as they were sighted.

Moreover, Malta did not hang them on a tuna pen. They came over ILLEGALLY upsetting the peace and serenity of our small island, which you now SHAMELESSLY BLAME.

What is really upsetting is yourself, a Maltese national (or an ex-one) who betrays her own country of origin.
You should have defended Malta against this ILLEGAL influx due to a problem Malta did not bring about.

Finally, the only positive thing arising of this episode is that you did not need any blusher on showing up at work on that day!!

SHAME ON YOU.
Joseph Grima (on 29/6/08)
So basically a Briton was injured by another Briton, An African man from Ivory Coast argued with a bouncer, an Eritrean fought up another Eritrean and a Somali spat at our police and threatened them when they offered to call an ambulance.

And Dear Ms Farrugia wonders why the article has an ethnic imbalance.
Saviour A Ellul-Bonici (on 29/6/08)
@ claire farrugia
Your indoctrinated mind betrays so much bias against what you claim to be your country of origin that you are not even worthy of any comments.
John Pace (on 29/6/08)
@ Claire Farrugia....why not try standing up on a police car and spit at the officers in whatever country you work? then we shall see how they treat you and how its reported in the media. Whether they're British, French or Eritreans - they are all foreigners to us and they should respect us and our country like we do when we go to theirs!!
Offenders should be deported wherever they come from including Congo, Eritrea, Somlia or any where else
Sandro Pace (on 29/6/08)
Nationalities should be mentioned. All other media in other countries do the same. Does not anyone watch Rai news and others? No one shall be neutral with the truth.

For their numbers, the number of incidents they are causing is high. Another truth.



P. Busuttil (on 29/6/08)
Here in Malta the police have already a problem to deal with the local "cowboys" now they also have to deal with illegal immigrants who instead of showing gratitude to the citizens of the country that gave them refuge and shelter, they behave in this manner. However to certain maltese if you dare mention this you are a racist. They also like to point out that as catholics.

If these ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS want to stay here they must adapt to our laws and customs.
F.Psaila (on 29/6/08)
@Joseph Farrugia
I live in a foreign country legally and strictly with their rules.

Racism or not racism the fact remains that the problem is Malta is unfortunately being stacked up with mostly outcasts from other countries. Who told you these poor souls did not arrive in Malta to escape from justice in their country.

How many times have your been arrested for spatting to police, jumping over police cars, stabbing other Maltese etc. etc.

Also arriving by boat doesn't exclude you from abiding to the laws, at least the ones that are civilly acceptable.
mark fenech (on 29/6/08)
thats the thanks we get for sheltering these people...i thought they left their countries to seek peace!
Chris Borg (on 29/6/08)
I am also a maltese person living in a foreign country .... whilst adjusting might not be so easy, I was never tempted to spit or assault police officers.

Maybe Claire Farrugia can explain how her difficulties living in a foreign country made her wise enough to sympatize with these aggressors.

Why not mention nationalities?? Isn't it a reality that most trouble caused over the weekend was done so by foreigners.
F. Camilleri (on 29/6/08)
@Claire Farrugia:

The article is reporting THE TRUTH except in referring to the ILLEGAL migrants as migrants.

You are now living in another country, in which:
i. you LEGALLY entered
ii. the problem of illegal immigration does not pose serious security and
sovereignty problems.

Moreover, our children and we who live in Malta are facing problems, which thankfully you may not be experiencing. These problems will not decrease unless:
i. the EU stops abusing our island,
ii. people like you stop defending the ILLEGAL OUTSIDER against her own
compatriots - SHAME.

You demand that '.... the nationality of a person does not have to be mentioned when reporting such incidents.'
Yet you SHAMELESSLY are quick enough to accuse your fellow compatriots by stating that 'Maltese also aggress the police'.

Reporting the truth of these bizarre realities plus others which either you do not know about or you simply consciously ignore, is not being racist, but rather being practical and rational.

It would be better if as a Maltese national you support Malta and your fellow-Maltese from wherever you are, rather than dictate to us what and what not is to be published on our newspapers where THE TRUTH is concerned.
Marlene Vella (on 29/6/08)
... what's really upsetting when as a Maltese living in another country: being Maltese and showing up at work on the day immigrants were left hanging on a tuna pen for days. Now that's a nice name we're making for our country.
L Sammut (on 29/6/08)
I go to Paceville regularly, and notwithstanding what some people say here it is true that policemen are regularly being bullied by these people. You can see this every night in the street of Paceville. And when the culprits are Maltese is the exception not the rule. These people should abide to the laws of Malta not to the rules of the jungle. They come to our country illegaly, they eat and drink at our expenses, then they attack our officers. I cannot understand how still some Maltese think that this can go on for ever.
David Falzon (on 29/6/08)
why shouldn't mention nationalities when everyday in court the name of each citizen who is accused or convicted in court is mentioned? Should the goverment pass a law that each immigrant under refugee protection or even not and is detained who gets in trouble with law and is convicted in court is sent back to his country????
D fenech (on 29/6/08)
@ Claire Farrugia
I don't agree that this article was intended to incite racism. If you were a Maltese living in Malta and not a Maltese living in a foreign country maybe you would argue differently. Racism is wrong and bad but worse still is an idealistic reasoning which floats above the reality of situations. Lets call a spade a spade.
Joseph Sammut (on 29/6/08)
@Claire Farrugia: whilst reading through the article never did it strike me as inciting racism: your comments were very pathetic indeed!

Why doesn't the nationality of a person have to be mentioned: when reporting on local incidents, don't we say for example, Mr. so and so from B'Kara or Marsa or Rabat. What's the difference? Or would you be suggesting that we are inciting internal racism?

I used to live in a foreign country as well, so I too know what it means to be a LEGAL immigrant: be careful how you throw any of this 'I know' stuff.

By the way did you arrive by boat in your country of adoption?
RITA SPITERI (on 29/6/08)
Why shouldn't we mention nationalities if it was the other way round and the police assaulted and spat on immigrants it would have been international headline news
J.M. Chapelle (on 29/6/08)
"AFM picks up n immigrants from tuna pen" / "n immigrants land at place x" / "boat capsizes with n immigrants" ETC ETC. These articles are then followed by the above. Now we know why we must stop illegal immigrants from coming here.
Marcel Dingli (on 29/6/08)
@ Claire Farrugia
Please mention some similar incidents committed by Maltese. We are dieing to know.
Brian Spleenovich (on 29/6/08)
Not good.
D fenech (on 29/6/08)
How sweet! What a lovely atmosphere it must have created!
Chris Borg (on 29/6/08)
Well .... as long as Simon Busuttil got an important assignment on immigration ... nothing else matter :S
Fabio Cini (on 29/6/08)
A lovely multi-culturalist night.
Claire Farrugia (on 29/6/08)
I am against articles which incite racism. The articles should be more neutral and not give the impression that the illegal immigrants are the only ones who are aggressive against the police. Maltese also aggress the police but such incidents are not mentioned. I am Maltese but live in a foreign country and know it is not easy to be a foreigner in a foreign country. I am not justifying any violence on part of the immigrant but why do they always seem to get the blame for everything? Please take care to be more neutral, the nationality of a person does not have to be mentioned when reporting such incidents.

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